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My friend lives in NJ. His car was stolen, stripped, and abandoned. The city is making him pay for the towing and impound fees.

26,675 2,340 September 3, 2010 at 06:15 AM in Rant
Does that seem right to anyone else? It's basically costing him over $350 to have his car stolen and, since he didn't have theft insurance, it's a total loss. The only possible redemption is going to be today if a mechanic offers him any money for the scrap.

WTF?

I'm not even going into how rude the city employees were to him or how they turned him away yesterday afternoon because they didn't think he could get a tow truck (at his own expense) to the impound lot before they closed at 4:45. OR how they wouldn't help his wife when she was there at noon, because they were all at lunch.

Please reserve any comments about him being dumb for not carrying a theft clause or whatever you call it on his insurance policy. It was an older Honda Civic and he didn't think it was worth insuring for very much. I'm not sure how all of that works but his deductible might even have been more than what he would've gotten for the car, if that applies.

I think it's infuriating that the city is forcing him to pay towing and impound fees when his car was stolen! Does he have any recourse here? Maybe he can deduct the cost of the fees from his taxes or something? Who should he contact?

My friend is a really nice guy--I would've raged out on those impound lot employees for sure. My buddy said he knows when he's defeated and he's licking his wounds and counting his losses, and that his anger is reserved for the car thieves. I understand that, but really, it looks to me like the city's just adding insult to injury here.

Anyone have any experience with this?

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09-03-2010 at 07:45 PM.
09-03-2010 at 07:45 PM.
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What am I living in society for if it's not, mostly, for protection from bandits and thieves? If only a fraction of my tax dollar goes to law enforcement then someone needs to adjust that! I could go buy several acres out in the country, raise attack dogs and practice my sharpshooting, and then, yes, I'd expect to be personally responsible for my own safety and the protection of my personal property.

But when I live in a city and that city has laws, and those laws say that other people aren't allowed to take away things that don't belong to them, then yes, I do expect the police to enforce those laws, and no, I don't accept that "crime is a part of life." I think that's our fundamental disagreement here, too. You choose to believe that it's something we have to accept or take it upon ourselves to defend against, while I refuse to do that and demand a better accounting from the people who promised to enforce the laws as they are written.

I realize the cops can't watch everything all the time. I don't really think it's the cops' fault that my friend's car was stolen--although if laws were enforced and police had the bodies to patrol properly, perhaps it wouldn't have happened. There's no way to know.

I have to sleep soon.
You live and pay taxes in a society that provides you all sorts of things you need and dont need:

Paved roads, intersections, schools for kids, an agency that tries to protect our air, the $1m it takes every time air force one lands, obama's golf trips, a war in iraq....

You are personally responsible for your own safety and the protection of your personal property, there is no one else out there that is responsible for it.

Crime is a fact of life, if we are to be realistic, its something we have to accept. You seem to think that if we had 100% police coverage crime would stop, but we know it wont, because people are not perfect, honest, law abiding citizens. Even the police are not perfect.
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09-03-2010 at 07:47 PM.
09-03-2010 at 07:47 PM.
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, and all public servants were compensated solely by tips? What kind of a world would that be?
Maybe the lowly public servents, but you'll never find our elected officals working for tips LMAO
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09-03-2010 at 07:47 PM.
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I think we should take up a collection...buy a GC to a local restaurant and have it delivered like it's from the local police. laugh out loud
I like the way you think. Evillaugh
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09-03-2010 at 07:48 PM.
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Maybe the lowly public servents, but you'll never find our elected officals working for just the tips LMAO
FTFY....Evillaugh

Wot? it was too serious in here. Stick Out Tongue
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09-03-2010 at 07:51 PM.
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I think we should take up a collection...buy a GC to a local restaurant and have it delivered like it's from the local police. laugh out loud
Nah, send him an official looking letter from the city saying that one of the cops cut his finger while inspecting the car and the car owner is responsible for the medical costs of getting it stitched up.
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09-03-2010 at 07:51 PM.
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I'm curious VQ, did the police dust the car for fingerprints or have they done anything to try to find the thief? Did they do anything other than have it towed? Based on my experience with the car theft, I don't think that they went looking for your friends car. My guess is they found it by chance, and if they hadn't, he would have never gotten it back.
I don't know. I do know they basically told him "we won't find the thief." Which is a whole different rant by itself! laugh out loud
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You live and pay taxes in a society that provides you all sorts of things you need and dont need:
Crime is a fact of life, if we are to be realistic, its something we have to accept. You seem to think that if we had 100% police coverage crime would stop, but we know it wont, because people are not perfect, honest, law abiding citizens. Even the police are not perfect.
I disagree. I think we're at an impasse. I think most people are basically good and try to act properly and that it's circumstance--nurture--rather than defect--nature--that causes them to break laws and commit crimes. So while I understand that as things are right now yes, crime is a part of life--I do not, and will not ever, accept that it has to be, and I think we should always strive to do and be better.
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Nah, send him an official looking letter from the city saying that one of the cops cut his finger while inspecting the car and the car owner is responsible for the medical costs of getting it stitched up.
laugh out loud Rofl2 Applause Ok, I like that one better!
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Who needs school bus drivers? Let one of the kids drive! Whee
One school district in the Denver area started charging students a fee per ride this year. That fee is on top of taxes paid by the parents. The kids swipe a card each time they board and the parents will get a bill quarterly.
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Quote from veritableqndry :
I don't know. I do know they basically told him "we won't find the thief." Which is a whole different rant by itself! laugh out loud

I disagree. I think we're at an impasse. I think most people are basically good and try to act properly and that it's circumstance--nurture--rather than defect--nature--that causes them to break laws and commit crimes. So while I understand that as things are right now yes, crime is a part of life--I do not, and will not ever, accept that it has to be, and I think we should always strive to do and be better.
You're an idealist, im a realist Smilie

But remember, you live in the present. Stick Out Tongue

Not to mention, as a law enforcement officer, i cant help but have to deal with the reality of life.
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09-03-2010 at 07:54 PM.
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laugh out loud Rofl2 Applause Ok, I like that one better!
Or even better. A letter that says that because of the missing parts on his car it no longer passes the state inspection and he has 14 days to get it repaired and reinspected.

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The kids swipe a card each time they board
Dirty little criminals sure start young with swipin' stuff. No wonder we can't get away from crime in our society. Ranting
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You're an idealist, im a realist Smilie

But remember, you live in the present. Stick Out Tongue

Not to mention, as a law enforcement officer, i cant help but have to deal with the reality of life.
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I am going to have a whole bunch more work when you get back to the office huh? laugh out loud

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Or even better. A letter that says that because of the missing parts on his car it no longer passes the state inspection and he has 14 days to get it repaired and reinspected.


Ok, now that's just mean.






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I am going to have a whole bunch more work when you get back to the office huh? laugh out loud



Ok, now that's just mean.






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Missy, you have no idea.
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Missy, you have no idea.
Oh good it's just missy that's in trouble, not me. *whew*
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