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How a cell phone picture led to girl's suicide

5,315 707 October 23, 2010 at 02:46 PM in Chat (2)

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damsel.
10-24-2010 at 09:16 PM.
10-24-2010 at 09:16 PM.
Agree to disagree then. I think a picture is worse.
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shuriken
10-24-2010 at 09:22 PM.
10-24-2010 at 09:22 PM.
Quote from damsel. :
Agree to disagree then. I think a picture is worse.
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ForeverDecember
10-25-2010 at 07:36 AM.
10-25-2010 at 07:36 AM.
I didn't get a cell phone until I was probably 16 or 17. 17 IIRC. Anyway, I didn't have a camera and I didn't have data, but even then, I probably wouldn't have taken pictures to send to people. It is an attention seeking act that is becoming so "standard" that it blows my mind.

Also, as a person who was bullied relentlessly for over 5 years, I can tell you that it is horrible. I know how she felt. You really think that sometimes just not being around would help. Sometimes you think that they are the ones who should hurt. I absolutely see why kids snap and harm themselves or others. It is a shame that the social worker did not follow up and neither did teachers or even her friends.
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bluepepper
10-25-2010 at 07:45 AM.
10-25-2010 at 07:45 AM.
Quote from tresanus :
Yeah no cell phones for kids!
Or digital cameras!
Or 35mm cameras!
Or polariod cameras!

Make underage relationships illegal!
Make scarves illegal!
Make breasts illegal!

Anymore illogical ideas?
Make the internet illegal?
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tresanus
10-25-2010 at 07:49 AM.
10-25-2010 at 07:49 AM.
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Make the internet illegal?
Or make face to face human interaction illegal!
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bluepepper
10-25-2010 at 07:56 AM.
10-25-2010 at 07:56 AM.
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Or make face to face human interaction illegal!
Make suicide illegal

oh wait
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dalokgawd
10-25-2010 at 07:58 AM.
10-25-2010 at 07:58 AM.
I think we should make n00bs illegal. Big Grin
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SlicKitty
10-25-2010 at 08:02 AM.
10-25-2010 at 08:02 AM.
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Should have kept her "breasts" to herself.
Quote from shuriken :
it is tragic that she committed suicide, but i was thinking the same thing. none of this would've happened had she not camwhored herself. Dontknow



She's a child.

You two just earned a spot on my ignore list.

This is exactly how this kind of thing happens. Children should be forgiven a certain amount of mistakes.

What kind of grown person uses the word "whore" to describe a 13 year old girl? I guess the answer (for me) is - not the kind of person I want to hear from.
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Phrozt
10-25-2010 at 08:04 AM.
10-25-2010 at 08:04 AM.
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Iagree This. And parenting, for the girl, her boyfriend and the bullies. Yes the mother says the girl was taught about what is appropriate but sadly it wasn't a lesson taken to heart. Poor girl, but one mistake isn't worth the end of her life.
She chose to make that mistake, and she chose to end her life.

It was literally in her own hands. Blaming other people isn't the key.

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What kind of grown person uses the word "whore" to describe a 13 year old girl? I guess the answer (for me) is - not the kind of person I want to hear from.
What type of 13 yr old girl texts a pic of her tits out to her bf?
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SlicKitty
10-25-2010 at 08:10 AM.
10-25-2010 at 08:10 AM.
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What type of 13 yr old girl texts a pic of her tits out to her bf?
One who trusts her boyfriend and probably shouldn't have. She was a child who doesn't have enough life-experience to know that not everyone is to be trusted.

Judging by other debates that you and I have had, you don't make the best decisions for yourself at the age you are now, so I'm confident when I say that you probably didn't make the best decisions at all times when you were 13.

It's a moment in time. She was 13.



What kind of grown person blames a child for a moment in time?

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dlarge
10-25-2010 at 08:12 AM.
10-25-2010 at 08:12 AM.
Quote from Phrozt :
What type of 13 yr old girl texts a pic of her tits out to her bf?
Maybe one that just doesn't have a whole lot of brains? Adults make stupid mistakes all the time too...
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Phrozt
10-25-2010 at 08:22 AM.
10-25-2010 at 08:22 AM.
Quote from SlicKitty :
One who trusts her boyfriend and probably shouldn't have. She was a child who doesn't have enough life-experience to know that not everyone is to be trusted.

Judging by other debates that you and I have had, you don't make the best decisions for yourself at the age you are now, so I'm confident when I say that you probably didn't make the best decisions at all times when you were 13.

It's a moment in time. She was 13.



What kind of grown person blames a child for a moment in time?

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I'm sorry.. what decisions do I make that aren't good now? And actually I was a really good kid up till college, but I'm glad that you're "confident" you know my life better than me.

Call it blame if you want to... I'm just pointing out the obvious. She chose to take and send the picture... she chose to end her life.

You cry out about people blaming her for the actions SHE committed, yet you have no problem assigning blame to everyone but the person that actually committed the actions.

Quote from dlarge :
Maybe one that just doesn't have a whole lot of brains? Adults make stupid mistakes all the time too...
Right. The question was asked "what kind of grown person uses the word "whore" to describe a 13 year old girl?" The answer was another question. What would you call a girl that sexts her breasts at age 13?

Though in all fairness, to be called a "camwhore" she'd have to do it repeatedly.
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Iaaaiws
10-25-2010 at 08:27 AM.
10-25-2010 at 08:27 AM.
Quote from SlicKitty :

Judging by other debates that you and I have had, you don't make the best decisions for yourself at the age you are now, so I'm confident when I say that you probably didn't make the best decisions at all times when you were 13.
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I'm sorry.. what decisions do I make that aren't good now?
There are a lot of us that wish you would quit randomly sending out pictures of your tits. Ranting
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SlicKitty
10-25-2010 at 08:29 AM.
10-25-2010 at 08:29 AM.
Quote from dlarge :
Adults make stupid mistakes all the time too...

Exactly. Lots of people of all ages make stupid mistakes and children don't have the life-experience to know that not everyone can be trusted. The poor kid thought she could trust her boyfriend with a naughty picture and he betrayed her and she could have just taken it as a learning experience.

Instead, it was all blown out of proportion by hundreds (maybe more) other kids, who weren't involved and shouldn't have had anything to do with it. If it had stayed between her, her boyfriend, and a few other people, she probably wouldn't have become so distraught, but to her, it probably felt like the whole world knew and the whole world thought these terrible things about her...and always would.

As we saw from the college kid who just took his own life, even older people make these same "moment in time" decisions, so why would it surprise anyone that a child would make a decision like that?

And why would any thinking adult propagate the idea that she was anything but an experimenting child?

No wonder our kids treat each other this way. Look how adults are willing to talk about kids and the names they're willing to throw around - how they're willing to question the character of a child who tried something out once and got caught.

I'm sure that you three (in my quotes below) were all angelic when you were 13 and never did anything that you could have been embarrassed over, if it had come out in the news. I mean, surely no one with a videocamera could have caught you...oh...I don't know...playing with yourself? Stealing? Playing doctor? Vandalizing? Setting something on fire? Beating someone up? Getting beaten up? Doing something that could have called your sexuality into question?

Just something small. Nothing big.

But it could have been taken out of context and made into something big by kids (and adults) with nasty dispositions, who wanted to ruin your life. Just because it didn't happen to you doesn't mean it couldn't have happened to you.

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There are a lot of us that wish you would quit randomly sending out pictures of your tits. Ranting
You damned-well know that wasn't random.

Stop asking for them.

Mad
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luckykitti
10-25-2010 at 08:42 AM.
10-25-2010 at 08:42 AM.
while 13 is a naive age, i think parents should start raising their kids with more awareness.. I hear a lot of parents say "let the kid be a kid" which is great but some people take it TOO far, and need to start shaping their kids for the future to be strong individuals, and working their brains in ways that aren't so sheltered. Not saying they should be subjected to everything, but I see some parents who are really good at very open communication, and their kids have very good common sense at a young age.. and other parents shrug it off and don't know how to communicate very well themselves, thus creating bad communication skills in their kids.
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