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Do you drive an SUV

1,883 2,285 November 10, 2010 at 08:40 AM in Chat
If so, do you recommend it? why?

I'm trying to get an suv before winter starts but i'm unsure of what to get. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.

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Last Edited by idkist November 10, 2010 at 01:55 PM
Requirements:
$22,000 - $25,000
Compact to Mid-Size SUV
4x4 or AWD

Suggestions From Loungers:
VW Tiguan
bmw x-5 /nagin
Hyundai Sante Fe
Hyundai Tuscon
Honda CRV
Jeep Liberty
Jeep Wrangler
Jeep Grand Cherokee
Mercury Mountaineer before 2001
Subaru Outback before 2003
Passat Wagon 4-motion around 2001-2003
Grand Cherokee anything before 2005
Toyota Rav 4

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11-10-2010 at 11:29 AM.
11-10-2010 at 11:29 AM.
I live in Fort Worth and work in Arlington. I drive around DFW airport sometimes...wait, I lost my train of thought. What are we talking about? Dontknow
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Iaaaiws
11-10-2010 at 12:03 PM.
11-10-2010 at 12:03 PM.
Quote from IVIax :
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laugh out loud I'm not comparing bald tires to brand new tires with lots of tread.

I don't get your argument about the bigger SUV having more traction on ice? I don't see it from a physics standpoint. Explain it to me. (I'm not saying you're wrong, I just don't see it laugh out loud)
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Oh I saw it, but I still think weight is going to be a much bigger factor unless you're talking about specialized tires.

Slightly different treads in a tire are going to make a difference if you're talking about increasing traction for a specific car (i.e., you already have a car, you're looking to increase traction), but if you have the choice OF the vehicle, then I'd go for more mass if you're looking for more traction.

Honestly, at this point it would be speculation unless we have hard numbers in front of us. But out of these two scenarios, you know which one I'd pick.

A) 4497 lbs. w/ winter tires
B) 6411 lbs. w/all year tires

Spoiler for which weight belongs to which SUV.
Since this thread has already been hijacked....... laugh out loud

For Max and Phrozt and anyone else with an opinion....How would you think a truck like what I drive at work would perform on slippery roads? The truck itself weighs about 350,000lbs and carries an additional 400,000lbs. For reference it uses a 2500hp diesel engine driving a generator which in turn drives the electric motors that turn the rear wheels.



So, how do you think they go in the snow? Dontknow
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11-10-2010 at 12:07 PM.
11-10-2010 at 12:07 PM.
Quote from Iaaaiws :
Since this thread has already been hijacked....... laugh out loud

For Max and Phrozt and anyone else with an opinion....How would you think a truck like what I drive at work would perform on slippery roads? The truck itself weighs about 350,000lbs and carries an additional 400,000lbs. For reference it uses a 2500hp diesel engine driving a generator which in turn drives the electric motors that turn the rear wheels.



So, how do you think they go in the snow? Dontknow
What kind of tires does it use? Wink


I would imagine it goes on snow, rain, wind, people, small cars, houses, etc. with no problems at all.
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Phrozt
11-10-2010 at 12:08 PM.
11-10-2010 at 12:08 PM.
Quote from Iaaaiws :
Since this thread has already been hijacked....... laugh out loud

For Max and Phrozt and anyone else with an opinion....How would you think a truck like what I drive at work would perform on slippery roads? The truck itself weighs about 350,000lbs and carries an additional 400,000lbs. For reference it uses a 2500hp diesel engine driving a generator which in turn drives the electric motors that turn the rear wheels.



So, how do you think they go in the snow? Dontknow
Well of course I'd guess pretty damn well...

EDIT: but to be fair to Max... I'm sure the tires that come standard on that truck would have some pretty heavy treads..
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Iaaaiws
11-10-2010 at 12:24 PM.
11-10-2010 at 12:24 PM.
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What kind of tires does it use? Wink


I would imagine it goes on snow, rain, wind, people, small cars, houses, etc. with no problems at all.
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Well of course I'd guess pretty damn well...

EDIT: but to be fair to Max... I'm sure the tires that come standard on that truck would have some pretty heavy treads..
I would have thought with that much weight that even a few inches of snow wouldn't even be noticeable but that isn't the case at all. Even if an inch or less of snow builds up on the roads we park these things immediately. They farking slide all over the place and once they get sliding there isn't a whole lot you can do to stop them.

From what I can tell, what happens is that any amount of snow buildup at all gets immediately compressed into a thin layer of ice by the weight of the truck. Despite their size though it is really comparable to driving a full-size rear wheel drive pickup as far as sliding goes--except that when you first start to slide the pucker factor is about a thousand times greater.
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11-10-2010 at 12:33 PM.
11-10-2010 at 12:33 PM.
Quote from Iaaaiws :
I would have thought with that much weight that even a few inches of snow wouldn't even be noticeable but that isn't the case at all. Even if an inch or less of snow builds up on the roads we park these things immediately. They farking slide all over the place and once they get sliding there isn't a whole lot you can do to stop them.

From what I can tell, what happens is that any amount of snow buildup at all gets immediately compressed into a thin layer of ice by the weight of the truck. Despite their size though it is really comparable to driving a full-size rear wheel drive pickup as far as sliding goes--except that when you first start to slide the pucker factor is about a thousand times greater.
Makes sense.
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11-10-2010 at 12:34 PM.
11-10-2010 at 12:34 PM.
Quote from Iaaaiws :
I would have thought with that much weight that even a few inches of snow wouldn't even be noticeable but that isn't the case at all. Even if an inch or less of snow builds up on the roads we park these things immediately. They farking slide all over the place and once they get sliding there isn't a whole lot you can do to stop them.

From what I can tell, what happens is that any amount of snow buildup at all gets immediately compressed into a thin layer of ice by the weight of the truck. Despite their size though it is really comparable to driving a full-size rear wheel drive pickup as far as sliding goes--except that when you first start to slide the pucker factor is about a thousand times greater.
Sounds like you need more weight. I'd suggest throwing a hay bale in the back.
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Iaaaiws
11-10-2010 at 12:54 PM.
11-10-2010 at 12:54 PM.
Quote from IVIax :
Makes sense.
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Sounds like you need more weight. I'd suggest throwing a hay bale in the back.
laugh out loud Nah, just need a couple of guys to jump on the back bumper....


Here's a video of one of these trucks sliding in the mud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4zYEoyobsk

I've been completely sideways but I've never gone all the way around like that.
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11-10-2010 at 12:57 PM.
11-10-2010 at 12:57 PM.
Quote from Pig :
You didn't say that when I was asking about it! Mad


If you think getting an SUV will stop you from "sliding" then you are in for a surprise....
below 25K, that rules out the two brands that I've ever owned: infiniti and bmw.
Do you mind buying an used car?
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11-10-2010 at 01:33 PM.
11-10-2010 at 01:33 PM.
Quote from slutsky :
below 25K, that rules out the two brands that I've ever owned: infiniti and bmw.
Do you mind buying an used car?
Wait...wot?

Also, no one here's asking about wot cars your mommy and daddy owned....
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idkist
11-10-2010 at 01:35 PM.
11-10-2010 at 01:35 PM.
Quote from Claudia365 :
I'm trying to stay under 25k... I just got my house and i'm on a budgetFrown
2010 model?

Also, what are you actual requirements?

Specifically an actual SUV or would crossovers work or perhaps just a regular car with AWD? Towing/size/anything else?
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11-10-2010 at 01:38 PM.
11-10-2010 at 01:38 PM.
I didn't read all of the replies, but I just traded in my Saturn Vue (that I LOVED) for a full-sized SUV. I don't know if you're looking for new or used, but the Vue got GREAT gas mileage. The Nissan Armada ('04) I just bought is going to be a shock I think, but I have a 6'1" 14 year old and 2 more coming right behind him, so I needed something for comfort for them.
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I didn't read all of the replies, but I just traded in my Saturn Vue (that I LOVED) for a full-sized SUV. I don't know if you're looking for new or used, but the Vue got GREAT gas mileage. The Nissan Armada ('04) I just bought is going to be a shock I think, but I have a 6'1" 14 year old and 2 more coming right behind him, so I needed something for comfort for them.
Congrats on the twins! When are you due???
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11-10-2010 at 01:41 PM.
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Congrats on the twins! When are you due???
Fark you PIG!! No more! My other two are 10 and 6! Stick Out Tongue
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11-10-2010 at 01:42 PM.
11-10-2010 at 01:42 PM.
Quote from idkist :
2010 model?

Also, what are you actual requirements?

Specifically an actual SUV or would crossovers work or perhaps just a regular car with AWD? Towing/size/anything else?
compact suv, AWD or 4x4. I'm open to see any model but I just need something under 22-25k because I don't want car payments.Frown
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