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Ever been ripped off by a car mechanic?

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oynot
12-16-2010 at 10:48 AM.
12-16-2010 at 10:48 AM.
It's more than semantics, and I should know better than to respect comments from anyone that would laugh at someone's idiocy. This is a place to share and benefit, not mock.
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Iaaaiws
12-16-2010 at 10:58 AM.
12-16-2010 at 10:58 AM.
Quote from oynot :
It's more than semantics, and I should know better than to respect comments from anyone that would laugh at someone's idiocy. This is a place to share and benefit, not mock.
The problem is that when people here have tried to share their knowledge and educate you, you just mock them and ignore the truth so you can continue to wallow in your ignorance.
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Fallacy
12-16-2010 at 11:00 AM.
12-16-2010 at 11:00 AM.
Quote from oynot :
It's more than semantics, and I should know better than to respect comments from anyone that would laugh at someone's idiocy. This is a place to share and benefit, not mock.
Iagree


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I can do something faster and just as well as the average monkey.
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They charge a disposal fee and turn around and sell it!! Ha.
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What other industries can do this fat rate thing and get away with it?
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Piccaboo is a mechanic, you must all be his croonies thinking it's OK to over charge on time slips.





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The problem is that when people here have tried to share their knowledge and educate you, you just mock them and ignore the truth so you can continue to wallow in your ignorance.
She never mocked or ignored anyone Nono2
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oynot
12-16-2010 at 11:16 AM.
12-16-2010 at 11:16 AM.
She wrote: But explaining to a man/and or woman as the case may be with the brain of a pea, is near impossible as to this entire situation - simply because YOU think you know it all which indicates the size of your brain and/or the way the synapse connect inside your brain, which must be short circuiting - and I'll go with that one Might you see a doctor for some medication, because it appears you have no logical thinking in this thread.


Call it what you will.


This is becoming pointless so let's move on.
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Piccaboo
12-16-2010 at 11:20 AM.
12-16-2010 at 11:20 AM.
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Thank you.. and I know how to use a screwdriver to fix things.

It's not that they're charging a flat rate, but that they are listing xx more hours on the time sheet and getting paid for that. Charge a flat rate and make a lot of money but don't lie to someone by charging for six hours if it only took you two and why post an hourly rate if you're not sticking to it? You should be posing a per task rate instead.

Get it straight already, your so set in your way you totally miss what I'm posting every time.
Okay Censored because you are such a Censored and you think posting a per task rate is the way to go, let me give you an example of what a per task rate in hours would be for a 2004 GMC Envoy, and then you will see that it would be IMPOSSIBLE to post a per task rate for EVERY TYPE OF VEHICLE OUT THERE !!

Brake System Complete - Replace wheel cylinders, brake shoes and/or calipers and pads. Clean, lube and/or replace brake hardware as necessary. Repack wheel bearings on full floating rear axles with drum brakes. Inspect master cylinder, all hoses and bleed system. Adjust brakes where applicable. DOES NOT include refinishing.
All Wheels - Labor = 3.6 hours

Calipers - Includes Bleed System and replace pads if necessary
Both - Labor = 1.4 hours

Disc Rotor - Includes Repack wheel bearings, where applicable and replace pads if necessary. DOES NOT include refinishing.
Both - Labor = 1.0 hours

Master Cylinder - Includes Bleed System. NOTE: If used in conjunction with any other brake operation deduct .4 hours.
All Applicable Models - Labor = 1.8 hours


Now imagine trying to list per task rate for EVERY TYPE OF VEHICLE OUT THERE every type of vehicle job required - it would be next to impossible to do - that is why there is a program and/or book that tells them what the hours are that are paid to do each and every job on a vehicle. You would be amazed at how little hours are paid for some items, such as 0.2 or 0.1 hours for some things - and again, it takes the Technician time to put that vehicle up on a lift, take apart what is needed, go get the part if it is in-house, or order it, etc.

Your are a Censored person again with synapse problems within your brain - might you have your brain stem checked out - it might help with your understanding of all of this.

Like BikerEric I have the above information at my fingertips, and I'll out play you with this game any day of the week, as I have 33 years of experience in this field Censored
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Piccaboo
12-16-2010 at 11:23 AM.
12-16-2010 at 11:23 AM.
Quote from oynot :
She wrote: But explaining to a man/and or woman as the case may be with the brain of a pea, is near impossible as to this entire situation - simply because YOU think you know it all which indicates the size of your brain and/or the way the synapse connect inside your brain, which must be short circuiting - and I'll go with that one Might you see a doctor for some medication, because it appears you have no logical thinking in this thread.


Call it what you will.


This is becoming pointless so let's move on.
Correct your brain needs examined to see if the synapses are working correctly, because your logic is non-logical in this thread - that or your brain is the size of a pea - which would explain your responses Censored
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Pig
12-16-2010 at 12:40 PM.
12-16-2010 at 12:40 PM.
Quote from oynot :
Thank you.. and I know how to use a screwdriver to fix things.

It's not that they're charging a flat rate, but that they are listing xx more hours on the time sheet and getting paid for that. Charge a flat rate and make a lot of money but don't lie to someone by charging for six hours if it only took you two and why post an hourly rate if you're not sticking to it? You should be posing a per task rate instead.

Get it straight already, your so set in your way you totally miss what I'm posting every time.
Don't listen to the haters. I'm not laughing at your idiocy Nono2

All those posts that Iaaaiws and MAX made to explain wot Piccaboo was trying to explain makes no sense at all. No gym from home 15lb weight but gym home with 50 lb....how can they explain THAT????
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veritablequandary
12-16-2010 at 12:49 PM.
12-16-2010 at 12:49 PM.
Quote from Pig :
Don't listen to the haters. I'm not laughing at your idiocy Nono2

All those posts that Iaaaiws and MAX made to explain wot Piccaboo was trying to explain makes no sense at all. No gym from home 15lb weight but gym home with 50 lb....how can they explain THAT????
Shouldn't you be changing some blinker fluid or something?
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Piccaboo
12-16-2010 at 01:09 PM.
12-16-2010 at 01:09 PM.
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Shouldn't you be changing some blinker fluid or something?
He's looking for his left handed monkey wrench - and he thinks you have it Ranting
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Pig
12-16-2010 at 01:18 PM.
12-16-2010 at 01:18 PM.
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He's looking for his left handed monkey wrench - and he thinks you have it Ranting
Spoken like a true rip-off mechanic! Why would I ever have a left handed monkey wrench when only spank the monkey with my right????
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Piccaboo
12-16-2010 at 01:29 PM.
12-16-2010 at 01:29 PM.
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Spoken like a true rip-off mechanic! Why would I ever have a left handed monkey wrench when only spank the monkey with my right????
So you admit you spank the monkey Evillaugh
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Pig
12-16-2010 at 01:31 PM.
12-16-2010 at 01:31 PM.
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So you admit you spank the monkey Evillaugh
Only after I'm high on blinker fluid Woot
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Piccaboo
12-16-2010 at 01:42 PM.
12-16-2010 at 01:42 PM.
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Only after I'm high on blinker fluid Woot
Just don't do it around the Piglets and give them any ideas Chairbash
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MISHNAH
12-16-2010 at 06:57 PM.
12-16-2010 at 06:57 PM.
Quote from oynot :
Thank you.. and I know how to use a screwdriver to fix things.

It's not that they're charging a flat rate, but that they are listing xx more hours on the time sheet and getting paid for that. Charge a flat rate and make a lot of money but don't lie to someone by charging for six hours if it only took you two and why post an hourly rate if you're not sticking to it? You should be posing a per task rate instead.

Get it straight already, your so set in your way you totally miss what I'm posting every time.
Say six hours is what everybody's agreed to as a reasonable time to do that job. On some cars that can be very optimistic and actually takes much longer, while on others it can take a bit less time. Since you're obviously not working on cars like many of us, you've never had to deal with stripped, broken, rounded-off, stuck, or otherwise screwed up fasteners and parts. Mad Cleaning mating surfaces or inspecting parts take time, plus certain procedures and tests have to be performed after some jobs, which can take a while to perform. For example, I can replace my water pump in 20 minutes, once the coolant is drained (takes time) and then properly bleeding the air out of the coolant system can take an hour!

I looked in the collision manual for my Chevy Impala just now, it lists 1 hour for the water pump on the 3.4L V6 (water pump is easy to reach and change, but bleeding takes a while, see above), 1 hr for the 3.8L V6 (water pump is much harder to reach and remove, but I think bleeding is easier) but then they only list 0.3 hours to change the battery vomit Lmao, replacing the battery in 18 minutes in a GM W-Body is veryyyy optimistic haha. I love having to remove braces and disconnect wiring just to bust my hands removing the battery, grrr.
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12-16-2010 at 07:33 PM.
12-16-2010 at 07:33 PM.
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But but but but but but....How can one charge for 6 hours if he finishes the job in 2 hours????
We do it so we can afford $1400 tires..duh
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