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Is SD's meaning of "referral" outdated and hurting SD's obtaining deals?

1,425 691 January 11, 2011 at 02:36 PM in Chat Slickdeals
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It appears the definition SD uses for referrals is about 10 years old and is actually hurting many from getting deals. In my opinion the reason SD wants to ban referrals is to make it so OP's are not personally gaining from posting a deal. Many times you make $5-$10 per referral to a site. I have posted the definition of referral below which basically means EVERY poster on SD should be banned since everyone is referring people to websites and deals. Am I wrong?

In the following threads:

https://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=396667&t=2563997
https://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=396667&t=2546491
https://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=396667&t=2526195

Sometimes it has been allowed and sometimes removed. The purpose of this website is to get a group of people 5-10 people to buy a deal. Then everyone in that group gets the deal. One thought among SD'ers is SD'ers are a group. The OP is not gaining from referring a link anymore then posting a deal for Walmart and everyone buying it. I hope to bring this to MOD's attention as to maybe bring a change to SD TOS to bring it inline with 2011 way of life online.

Definition of Referral

1. To direct to a source for help or information: referred her to a heart specialist; referred me to his last employer for a recommendation.
2. To assign or attribute to; regard as originated by.
3. To assign to or regard as belonging within a particular kind or class.
4. To submit (a matter in dispute) to an authority for arbitration, decision, or examination.
5. To direct the attention of: refer him to his duties.


******** Please do not post referrals here. This is a discussion on something which has been seen in the Hot Deals Thread and was created here to keep those threads on topic. *********

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DealorDie
01-11-2011 at 03:37 PM.
01-11-2011 at 03:37 PM.
Quote from Schooby :
Let me see if I have the gist of this now...we're debating the use of the word referral? Our use of the word is incorrect? Dontknow
Schooby here is my opinion and again it is mine which is why I am posting here as a discussion. I am going to lay this out as clear as I can since everyone (im not saying you) are going in different directions.

1) SD does not allow referrals
2) By definition everything in hot deals is a referral
3) So what then does SD see as a referral?
4) I see by looking at SD for years that it would be a link which then generates a personal gain to the OP or individual posting the link is what SD is referring to.
5) In the sense of the website linked in my main post the referral is not gaining the OP or poster and personal gain other then getting himself and everyone on SD that deal.
6) What is the difference between posting a link to Walmart where the OP and everyone on SD can get the deal?
7) Why should one referral be against TOS and another referral not be against TOS

It seems the policy was in place before sites like this were around. And my only thought is SD should evolve with how deal websites evolve. If there is a site which is for groups of people getting deals why should SD not be considered a group when everyone gains the same and not one person gains more..

My 2 cents on this topic.
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01-11-2011 at 03:37 PM.
01-11-2011 at 03:37 PM.
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Dontknow I've never even read the TOS..Rofl2
Banned

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01-11-2011 at 03:38 PM.
01-11-2011 at 03:38 PM.
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Dontknow I've never even read the TOS..Rofl2
Neither have I and I managed fine until today. My bad EEK!

I think I'm gonna cry! If not for my belief that the OP had issues before we crossed paths, I would feel terrible.
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01-11-2011 at 03:40 PM.
01-11-2011 at 03:40 PM.
Quote from sharkzfanz :
5) In the sense of the website linked in my main post the referral is not gaining the OP or poster and personal gain other then getting himself that deal.
That's why it's still a referral. You may not be getting a separate monetary reimbursement, but without referring users to the site through your deal link, you cannot get the deal. So you are compensated by getting the deal, and bringing in more users for them.
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01-11-2011 at 03:41 PM.
01-11-2011 at 03:41 PM.
Quote from cgrady :
Per your definition, which is the wrong one. The meaning of "referral" in the context of deals and referral systems for sharing revenue/etc is well-known and not simply "SD's meaning", so your argument is quite pointless Wink

The meaning we use is the relevant one, and is the correct one to use for a site like this.

Edit: it's also not a 10 year old outdated definition, so that attempted point is flawed to the core Smilie
Okay maybe part is flawed but you bring up the main point of my discussion here. "referral systems for sharing revenue" How is the site listed in my main post links meeting that definition. It is a new type of referral. It is a group of people all getting the same deal. No person is benefiting outside of the entire group....
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01-11-2011 at 03:41 PM.
01-11-2011 at 03:41 PM.
See the post I made while you were writing that one Smilie
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01-11-2011 at 03:41 PM.
01-11-2011 at 03:41 PM.
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That's why it's still a referral. You may not be getting a separate monetary reimbursement, but without referring users to the site through your deal link, you cannot get the deal. So you are compensated by getting the deal, and bringing in more users for them.
Are you not referring people to walmart when posting a deal from walmart?
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01-11-2011 at 03:42 PM.
01-11-2011 at 03:42 PM.
LMAO

There's a reason we had to coin the term "br00ces"
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01-11-2011 at 03:42 PM.
01-11-2011 at 03:42 PM.
Hey my point was to get a point out there for discussion not change a policy. It's obvious to me SD is stuck in their views which is fine I am not against that at all. I simply like people discussing.
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01-11-2011 at 03:43 PM.
01-11-2011 at 03:43 PM.
Quote from sharkzfanz :
Are you not referring people to walmart when posting a deal from walmart?
Only using your incorrect definition.

If I link to a walmart deal, I receive nothing for that link. I do not need to get others to sign up to get the deal, nor does walmart give me any incentive for linking that deal.

Hence, it is not a referral link using the correct definition in context.
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01-11-2011 at 03:44 PM.
01-11-2011 at 03:44 PM.
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Banned

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Quote from Rockalittle :
Neither have I and I managed fine until today. My bad EEK!
Once you get that pretty little warning mark on your posts, you learn the rules reallly quickly..no need to read after that, you will question everything you do and hide from the Mods..Hide
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01-11-2011 at 03:44 PM.
01-11-2011 at 03:44 PM.
Quote from cgrady :
Only using your incorrect definition.

If I link to a walmart deal, I receive nothing for that link. I do not need to get others to sign up to get the deal, nor does walmart give me any incentive for linking that deal.

Hence, it is not a referral link using the correct definition in context.
I understand the definition but that definition is not listed in the TOS. I am simply going off the word in the TOS and the dictionary sorry for that confusion on that word.
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01-11-2011 at 03:45 PM.
01-11-2011 at 03:45 PM.
Quote from sharkzfanz :
Are you not referring people to walmart when posting a deal from walmart?
did you not see this part of his post? that's the key

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but without referring users to the site through your deal link, you cannot get the deal.
the deals that are allowed to be posted on here can be obtained by going to the website/store directly. you can use the link on SD for convenience, but it's not necessary to get in on the deal.
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01-11-2011 at 03:46 PM.
01-11-2011 at 03:46 PM.
How is it different from Groupon. You post a deal on groupon which need 20 or 200 people to buy in to get the deal. If the deal was not posted on SD is it not possible the limit will not be reached and the OP will not get the deal in question? Just asking how this is different?
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01-11-2011 at 03:46 PM.
01-11-2011 at 03:46 PM.
Quote from acesmuzic :
did you not see this part of his post? that's the key



the deals that are allowed to be posted on here can be obtained by going to the website/store directly. you can use the link on SD for convenience, but it's not necessary to get in on the deal.
Don't go bringing logic into this..Mad
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