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So I caught a mouse.....

39,439 5,562 January 31, 2011 at 05:30 AM in Rant
Saw a mouse scampering around my garage so I got some glue traps. A little bit of peanut butter and within 45 mins I caught the sucker. His hind legs were stuck to the trap and he was bodyboarding around with his front legs. I took the trap and tossed it in the trash.

So I wake up later in the night by my dogs barking. I go down to the garage to check it out and lo and behold one of his buddies was trying a jail break and couldn't get out of the trash can (one of those rubbermaid round trash cans)! As soon as I lifted the top he took off. Mouse #1 was still in the bottom (fresh bag) twitching around. I left another trap (pack of 4!) with some more PB in the same spot.

30 minutes later I hear a "pop" sound which most likely came from the fireplace, but I go downstairs to check it out anyway. The trap I just put out 30 minutes prior is GONE but mouse #1 is still hanging out in the trash. I checked around a bit but couldn't find mouse #2 (he couldn't have gone far, stuck to the trap).

Fast forward to this morning. Still no mouse #2. Mouse #1 made a jailbreak - the trap is still in the trash but no mouse!

It's all out war now.... put down the second 2 traps - let's see if I catch anything! Hopefully my idiot dogs don't get stuck in the traps.

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02-08-2011 at 03:09 PM.
02-08-2011 at 03:09 PM.
Quote from tresanus :
I caught a mouse one time with a bb gun. We tried catching him with a broom but he kept getting behind the couch. Then we tried the vacuum hose, but he was just too quick.

So i busted out my bb gun and got him before he made it across the kitchen.

BUT he wasn't dead, so of course I took him outside and finished him off. I would feel horrible leaving the poor guy to die.. gotta make it as quick and painless as possible.
BB gun? not a shotgun? You are a great mouse catcher. I cant believe you got a mouse with a BB gun.
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02-08-2011 at 04:22 PM.
02-08-2011 at 04:22 PM.
I'm thinking there's a bigger idiot in your house.
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02-08-2011 at 04:41 PM.
02-08-2011 at 04:41 PM.
Better not go to Disney World with such a reputation....
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02-08-2011 at 04:42 PM.
02-08-2011 at 04:42 PM.
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BB gun? not a shotgun? You are a great mouse catcher. I cant believe you got a mouse with a BB gun.
Thank you I was quite proud of that shot!

And my poor horrified mom was there to witness it haha
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02-08-2011 at 04:56 PM.
02-08-2011 at 04:56 PM.
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02-08-2011 at 06:41 PM.
02-08-2011 at 06:41 PM.
Quote from BarryL :
So you can't justify your position... at all?

Yeah, I thought so. You have absolutely no argument, so please stop wasting my time with this childish "rofl hurr durr this iz funniez" rubbish and leave the adults to discuss this. I'm still waiting for what kind of excuses the OP can come up with.
Justify what? Sorry I don't have feelings for rodents, I save that for real animals. And if you actually had any reading comprehension you'd know I use an ELECTRONIC TRAP..Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
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02-09-2011 at 07:22 AM.
02-09-2011 at 07:22 AM.
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Justify what? Sorry I don't have feelings for rodents, I save that for real animals. And if you actually had any reading comprehension you'd know I use an ELECTRONIC TRAP..Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
Justifying unnecessary cruelty. You were advocating cruelty to these animals by supporting it in the first place by disagreeing with the notion about being humane (humane in the context of this thread meaning giving a swift and painless death rather than a prolonged and painful one).

Real animals? What the heck is that supposed to mean? It's either an animal or it isn't. So I guess rodents (mice rats, gophers, hedgehogs, et al) are magical fairy pixies then? After all, they're not "real animals" according to your genius.

Funny that you are lecturing me about reading comprehension when you don't even know what an animal is. And last time I checked, compassion is not a finite currency. You don't "save" it, you either have it or you don't. And you seem quite lacking in that department. Anyway, I don't care if you have compassion or not, but attempting to justify pointless cruelty to them is stupid, and what is even more stupid is using something ridiculous like "they're not animals" as justification. You're pretty much saying something isn't an animal (when it is) to blatantly disregard/ignore the ever so real animal cruelty component. This line of logic is incredibly flawed considering anyone can substitute "rodent" with "dog" or "BostonGirl" to justify being an ass.

So tell me, why should mice be exempt from humane treatment (by humane you know what I mean)? Because they're rodents? Because you don't like them? Despite the fact that they feel pain as much as a dog can, and also have the capacity to suffer? Please, tell me. My first guess is because "they're destructive and carry disease" but that's besides the point, because there is quite the distinction between humanely destroying a pest, and torturing one to death.
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02-09-2011 at 07:25 AM.
02-09-2011 at 07:25 AM.
In tribute to barryl, I am going to kill several bugs with my windshield today.
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02-09-2011 at 07:36 AM.
02-09-2011 at 07:36 AM.
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And last time I checked, compassion is not a finite currency. You don't "save" it, you either have it or you don't.
compassion in this sense would require time/effort to check the traps/kill the mice.. which are limited

also, maybe after enough half-dead mice escaping, the mice would learn to avoid the house? or seeing/hearing how another mouse died in the trap?

either way it doesn't really matter as long as the job gets done
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02-09-2011 at 07:39 AM.
02-09-2011 at 07:39 AM.
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In tribute to barryl, I am going to kill several bugs with my windshield today.
How's your stand-up career going at those run-down pubs?
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02-09-2011 at 07:46 AM.
02-09-2011 at 07:46 AM.
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compassion in this sense would require time/effort to check the traps/kill the mice.. which are limited
That's the responsible thing to do. Are you telling me laziness is an excuse? What time/effort does it take to humanely euthanise a mouse on a trap - a minute, maybe? You really can't use that excuse for the OP either - he was there when he caught the animals. He could have put the animal out of its misery, cleanly and quickly, but no, he just had to make it suffer some more eh?

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also, maybe after enough half-dead mice escaping, the mice would learn to avoid the house? or seeing/hearing how another mouse died in the trap?
So this is your excuse for being excruciatingly cruel to another creature? I can't believe what I'm reading here. You don't want half dead mice escaping, for one, because the whole point is to kill them. Unless you want them dying in your walls or leaving a mess.

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either way it doesn't really matter as long as the job gets done
Ah yes, how you kill something doesn't matter. What if someone caught a mouse, doused it with petrol and set it alight? Or cut its toes off one by one? It still gets "the job done", right?

Of course it matters, because it is a reflection of the person who is doing it. Maybe I don't see animals as inanimate objects, but I definitely see something wrong about doing very awful things that aren't even necessary to solve the problem encountered.
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02-09-2011 at 07:56 AM.
02-09-2011 at 07:56 AM.
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That's the responsible thing to do. Are you telling me laziness is an excuse?
it's not an excuse, it's among the top reasons why you shouldn't do certain things

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What time/effort does it take to humanely euthanise a mouse on a trap - a minute, maybe?
what has the mouse done to deserve a minute of my time? if the mouse hasn't done anything good for me, why should I do anything (good) for it?


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because the whole point is to kill them.
true - but they won't be living for long regardless

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Ah yes, how you kill something doesn't matter. What if someone caught a mouse, doused it with petrol and set it alight? Or cut its toes off one by one? It still gets "the job done", right?
no, it matters how easy it is - the first one maybe, but the 2nd one would involve way too much effort

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Of course it matters, because it is a reflection of the person who is doing it.
it is a reflection of what the person who is doing it thinks about mice - not their overall personality - you can't judge a person's overall personality on a specific stance/issue/action
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02-09-2011 at 08:13 AM.
02-09-2011 at 08:13 AM.
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it's not an excuse, it's among the top reasons why you shouldn't do certain things
Being lazy is never a reason for anything, especially doing something out of mercy. And it's not a reason, it's a damn excuse. Saying to your boss you can't go to work today because "you can't be stuffed" is an excuse . A reason would be because you'd have the flu.

"Laziness is why you shouldn't do certain things" - mind-bogglingly retarded thing to say here. Really.

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what has the mouse done to deserve a minute of my time? if the mouse hasn't done anything good for me, why should I do anything for it?
Does this even deserve a reply? Because that is really, I mean really selfish. A minute of your time is nothing in such circumstances. It's all about showing mercy - since when has that ever been a two way street?

Seems like you can't grasp the concept of humanity. Let me give you an example - if I was hunting and I misfire and wounded a deer, then I would be expected as a decent person to finish the job instead of leaving it to suffer. Had I said "ohh that deer did nothing for me, it doesn't deserve a minute of my precious time" and used that as an excuse to let it die slowly (instead of putting a bullet through its head as an act of mercy), then that'd make me a pretty lousy human being.

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no, it matters how easy it is - the first one maybe, but the 2nd one would involve way too much effort
Rubbish. Are you saying it's OK to burn animals live based on how EASY it is, regardless how painful it is for the animal?

Seriously, are you joking here?!

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it is a reflection of what the person who is doing it thinks about mice - not their overall personality - you can't judge a person's overall personality on a specific stance/issue/action
No, it's a reflection of their character. Thinking and doing are two different things. It's one thing to say that you hate mice and don't feel sorry for them at all, but it's another thing to go out of your way to torture them.

You can't? Hell yes you can. Murdering someone is a single action - I'd conclude that the person is a murderer. If someone tortured a mouse (or any animal), then they are an animal torturer. What if someone started hitting your dog for no reason? Oh, right... it was "only" one specific act, you can't call them a jerk or a sicko or anything, eh? What actions a person does says a lot, keep that in mind.

Quite frankly, there is no "excuse" or "reason" to make an animal suffer needlessly. And here you are, trying to rationalise it.
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02-09-2011 at 08:14 AM.
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Eh, it helps supplement my income from the kill shelter.
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