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is it safe to say that bugs are the worst thing ever?

5,882 190 February 16, 2011 at 08:12 PM in Cool
when i was little, i would wish some scientists would build a giant steel sphere, big enough to fit all the bugs in the world in. then after all the bugs were in it, they would shoot it off into space.

as i grew older, i stopped thinking about this idea for a while.

not that i am old, i've been thinking about it again. first there is the logistics of how big it would have to be. i know there are a lot of bugs in the world...trillions probably, but they're also really small for the most part. i think 2 miles in diameter would suffice. then there is the question of where in space we should aim it. the moon would be easy, but it would be a hassle if we were to colonize the moon one day. we'd have to deal with that problem all over again. we could shoot it off into deep space, but what if it were to hit an alien spaceship and they then declared war on us? no good. ultimately, what must be done is to shoot it in to the sun. there it will melt and the bugs inside would get the fiery death they deserve.

there are other questions, like how to lure all the bugs in, but we'll leave that one up to entymologists. they will be paid handsomely for their efforts, because afterward they will be out of a job.

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02-17-2011 at 11:22 AM.
02-17-2011 at 11:22 AM.
Quote from thikthird :
how big should it be?

i don't do drugs.
How big? For the entire world's worth of bugs? That includes bugs we can't see/have never seen. That doesn't even take into account the babies that hatch while you're still trying to gather the rest of the bugs. This makes me think of the ark. Wonder how Noah managed. Dontknow Maybe something within 10 miles radius. Of course, you'd have to define bugs. I've seen centipedes that were over a foot long.
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02-17-2011 at 11:30 AM.
02-17-2011 at 11:30 AM.
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am i wrong?
Yes. Pollination CAN be done manually (by human) but only on a small scale. It's a delicate process. There is no way humans would be able to take over the pollination of all of the worlds crops and feed anywhere near the number of people/livestock that we currently do.
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02-17-2011 at 11:33 AM.
02-17-2011 at 11:33 AM.
Quote from Peachyum :
How big? For the entire world's worth of bugs? That includes bugs we can't see/have never seen. That doesn't even take into account the babies that hatch while you're still trying to gather the rest of the bugs. This makes me think of the ark. Wonder how Noah managed. Dontknow Maybe something within 10 miles radius. Of course, you'd have to define bugs. I've seen centipedes that were over a foot long.
do you realize how big my theoretical sphere would be? over 4 cubic miles. that's huge.
let's figure out the average bug size, then take a guess at how many bugs in the world there are.

2 cm^3? 5 trillion bugs?

after we reach consensus on that, i'll figure out how big the sphere should be.

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Yes. Pollination CAN be done manually (by human) but only on a small scale. It's a delicate process. There is no way humans would be able to take over the pollination of all of the worlds crops and feed anywhere near the number of people/livestock that we currently do.
i think you underestimate human ingenuity. if we could build a hypothetical sphere this big, lure all the world's bugs into it, and then get it in to orbit, i bet we could figure out a way to automatically pollinate the world's vegetation. stop thinking small scale.
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02-17-2011 at 11:42 AM.
02-17-2011 at 11:42 AM.
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i think you underestimate human ingenuity. if we could build a hypothetical sphere this big, lure all the world's bugs into it, and then get it in to orbit, i bet we could figure out a way to automatically pollinate the world's vegetation. stop thinking small scale.
Self-replicating Nanobots are the answer.
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02-17-2011 at 11:53 AM.
02-17-2011 at 11:53 AM.
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Self-replicating Nanobots are the answer.
Yeah, that worked out really well for The Ancients.
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02-17-2011 at 11:56 AM.
02-17-2011 at 11:56 AM.
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i think you underestimate human ingenuity. if we could build a hypothetical sphere this big, lure all the world's bugs into it, and then get it in to orbit, i bet we could figure out a way to automatically pollinate the world's vegetation. stop thinking small scale.
I think you underestimate the importance of the world's bug population.

Manually pollinating plants requires more or less taking a q-tip, rubbing it on a plant's stamen to collect the pollen and then on a plant's stigma. This would need to be done for every single plant. Do you know what the typical plant population on one acre of a corn field is? Around 20,000-35,000. This year there was about 90 MILLION acres of corn planted in the US alone.

You do the math.

Is that big enough scale for you?
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02-17-2011 at 12:06 PM.
02-17-2011 at 12:06 PM.
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I think you underestimate the importance of the world's bug population.

Manually pollinating plants requires more or less taking a q-tip, rubbing it on a plant's stamen to collect the pollen and then on a plant's stigma. This would need to be done for every single plant. Do you know what the typical plant population on one acre of a corn field is? Around 20,000-35,000. This year there was about 90 MILLION acres of corn planted in the US alone.

You do the math.

Is that big enough scale for you?
i think you're worried too much about the details. surely by the time we have the bug sphere invented we will have bred self-pollinating plants, robots that do it for us, or even bred some kind of say mole or hummingbird that will do that instead of bugs. chances are we won't even have to do any of those. nature takes care of itself. "life finds a way" thikthird and dr. ian malcolm.
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02-17-2011 at 12:09 PM.
02-17-2011 at 12:09 PM.
by the way, i had no idea this thread would prove to be so controversial.
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02-17-2011 at 12:10 PM.
02-17-2011 at 12:10 PM.
Quote from thikthird :
i think you're worried too much about the details. surely by the time we have the bug sphere invented we will have bred self-pollinating plants, robots that do it for us, or even bred some kind of say mole or hummingbird that will do that instead of bugs. chances are we won't even have to do any of those. nature takes care of itself. "life finds a way" thikthird and dr. ian malcolm.
Mole? You're out of your element here. I'll just leave this thread for what it is most apt for...comic relief.
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02-17-2011 at 12:12 PM.
02-17-2011 at 12:12 PM.
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"life finds a way" thikthird and dr. ian malcolm.
Alright that was pretty funny

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02-17-2011 at 12:37 PM.
02-17-2011 at 12:37 PM.
What about computer bugs? Are you going to find a way to lure them into the sphere too?
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Majide
02-17-2011 at 12:41 PM.
02-17-2011 at 12:41 PM.
I like the idea! But unfortunately, I don't see it happening for a very long time. But I see that you are aware of this, so at least we are all on the same page.

I'd like to make certain that all centipedes are put into the sphere and thrown into space. nod This is critical!


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Yeah, that worked out really well for The Ancients.
Stargate? Big Grin
Yeah, I don't think the replicators sound like a very good idea. They'll turn on us. Sadwalk
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nessykins
02-17-2011 at 12:43 PM.
02-17-2011 at 12:43 PM.
What about the cute insects like lady bugs?
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02-17-2011 at 12:45 PM.
02-17-2011 at 12:45 PM.
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What about computer bugs? Are you going to find a way to lure them into the sphere too?
Good point....and also these wretched things....
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02-17-2011 at 12:55 PM.
02-17-2011 at 12:55 PM.
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Stargate? Big Grin
Yeah, I don't think the replicators sound like a very good idea. They'll turn on us. Sadwalk
I wondered if anyone would get that. Big Grin
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