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Fat girls on the Bus

2,725 282 November 8, 2011 at 04:39 PM in Chat
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How is it that they can commit to time consuming make-up regimen, and expensive outer acessories, but not to jogging 20mins a day, (which is arguable all one needs, as long as there's consistency) Confused


On the bus today:

Saw around, counted, 22x "big" girls while riding the campus buses between classes.

I notice many of them have very complicated make up scenarios,, foundation, mascara, liner, shadow (feathered), toner, bronzer, nude lip, etc etc..

Also, many wear a decent amount of middle brand clothing, lots of BR mainly, they're relatively young after-all.


SO, all of this cost money and time, the make up well exceeds 20 mins in most of these cases,

And their cloths are obviously not cheap either...

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11-09-2011 at 12:47 PM.
11-09-2011 at 12:47 PM.
Quote from Moot-N-Me :
Awwww you're so little!!!!! Coverlaugh Maybe people and objects just seem bigger to you Dontknow Like a ant's vantage point.

Now instead of mocking out people and being judgemental maybe you should look and see what you could improve on yourself.

You said you go to the gym? You may want to curb the aerobics classes and the treadmill and meet some men in the weight room who can teach you how to bodybuild and also look into a strict protien/muscle enhancing diet. You may feel intimidated at first because they will probably stare at you....you know....size you up.

You could accomplish alot.....probably in just 20 minutes a day focusing on one group of muscles.

Good luck Thumbup

Sorry I forgot to ask.....what is that thing around your neck? The Flava Flav look is not working for you. Just get a watch.
i've since a while back switched to focus sets, but haven't had much luck..

and I have not mocked anyone.. all the fat girls have thus far taken a defensive position against me... I have not uttered any such negativity...

I have always argued simply that those girls could invest their time in workout vs the makeup.

I have NOT absolutely judged whether or not these girls are "good .. bad"
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11-09-2011 at 01:01 PM.
11-09-2011 at 01:01 PM.
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There are men who would "SETTLE" for heavier women,, they still PREFER victoria secret models..

Are there exceptions,, few,, very few

There are men that PREFER heavier women. Plenty of men like their women to have curves and look like they eat more once a week.
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11-09-2011 at 01:06 PM.
11-09-2011 at 01:06 PM.
I'm not fat. I just have a big boner Mad
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11-09-2011 at 01:22 PM.
11-09-2011 at 01:22 PM.
Quote from MissyMooMoo :
There are men that PREFER heavier women. Plenty of men like their women to have curves and look like they eat more once a week.
this is hypothetical, i don't wish to objectify women,, but

so you're saying we can find such a man, and place you next to a victoria secret model,,

and this man would select you over the VS model..


VS models also have curves,,, and they eat everyday,,,

LMAO
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11-09-2011 at 02:09 PM.
11-09-2011 at 02:09 PM.
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hey slutsky I wish you were reppable for that comment. post outside the lounge *SmiliepleaseSmilie*...
He didn't post in this thread yet. LMAO
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11-09-2011 at 02:11 PM.
11-09-2011 at 02:11 PM.
Quote from tp4tissue :
this is hypothetical, i don't wish to objectify women,, but

so you're saying we can find such a man, and place you next to a victoria secret model,,

and this man would select you over the VS model..


VS models also have curves,,, and they eat everyday,,,

LMAO

You can laugh all you want.

#1 You have no idea of what I look like. I could be a VS model or I could be over 500 lbs for all you know. It doesn't make a difference in this conversation.

#2 There are men that like heavy women. There are websites and social clubs set up just for this purpose.

#3 There are also men that like women that aren't extremely heavy but also don't have their ribs showing.

When you grow up, you are going to discover that people are attracted to many different physical attributes. And, you don't necessarily develop a long term relationship with someone that has the phyical attributes that you prefer.

I know that you are just trolling. You can't expect anyone to believe after your posts that you don't think you are better than other people based solely on their size or physical fitness. I guess it's okay. It's nice that you can find a way to feel good about yourself.

I'm sure that not one of the 22 women you called "fat" care about what you think. They aren't interested in you and they don't care about your ideas for "fixing" them.
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11-09-2011 at 02:14 PM.
11-09-2011 at 02:14 PM.
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LOL. all those things are there, the lighting and photo compression makes it' less obvious Big Grin

and as far as body builder esque separation,," you really need to be much heavier than i am right now, it doesn't happen until 150lbs level at my height

I am leaner today than that pic, but i am pretty sure on the 5%,

and you really can't see muscle striations unless you were much darker in skin tone or getting a deep tan,, my skin is fairly pale, even though under the tungsten it seems a bit darker.

The extreme contrast on the magazines is more post processing than anything else.. they have muscle sure, but most of the harsh contrast edges don't actually exist (during the shoot)
I'm guessing you're not any leaner today or you would have posted a picture by now. you do realize that 3% bodyfat is low enough for you to actually die, don't you? bodybuilders get down to the 5% range only for a week or less at a time to do shows; the body can't sustain at that low of a bodyfat level.

If you're relying on calipers, then you're not pinching enough. If you are using bio-impedance and thinking it's accurate, then you're just plain dumb. if you think most women care about any of this, then you're borderline retarded.

the extreme contrast seen in magazines isn't doctored, or else they would look different in youtube videos. I even have separation, contrast, and faint striations at a pudgy 15+% when taking pictures with a simple point-and-click camera and a mirror in desparate need of cleaning.
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11-09-2011 at 02:16 PM.
11-09-2011 at 02:16 PM.
Why is it so hard for you to understand that some women are perfectly happy with themselves and maybe don't want to lose weight? One doesn't necessarily wear makeup to hide imperfections or because one thinks she's ugly. The only thing I hate about my face is my pale eyelashes (I'm naturally blond, so my eyelashes are light, too), so I wear mascara. Otherwise, the makeup I wear is used to accentuate my favorite features.

You're considering makeup to be a quick fix when that's not really the case. Stop correlating the two.

And there are plenty of men who prefer bigger and curvier women. Some men think I'm too skinny, but I think I'm perfect just the way I am (and so does my boyfriend). So why would I change?
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11-09-2011 at 02:16 PM.
11-09-2011 at 02:16 PM.
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If the OP really counted 22 college women that he considered "fat" on one bus, he is extemely delusional. He must consider all women that don't have the figure of Victoria Secret model to be overweight.
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Well, according a lady on TV that sells clothes to plus side women (take with grain of salt), 60% of American women are overweight. IMO, that's believable.
I'm not saying that makes them a horrible person, etc but it's plausible to find 22 people on a bus that are overweight. Not all are obese of course.

And yes, I would estimate that about the same percentage of men are overweight too.
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11-09-2011 at 02:30 PM.
11-09-2011 at 02:30 PM.
Quote from damsel. :
Why is it so hard for you to understand that some women are perfectly happy with themselves and maybe don't want to lose weight? One doesn't necessarily wear makeup to hide imperfections or because one thinks she's ugly. The only thing I hate about my face is my pale eyelashes (I'm naturally blond, so my eyelashes are light, too), so I wear mascara. Otherwise, the makeup I wear is used to accentuate my favorite features.

You're considering makeup to be a quick fix when that's not really the case. Stop correlating the two.

And there are plenty of men who prefer bigger and curvier women. Some men think I'm too skinny, but I think I'm perfect just the way I am (and so does my boyfriend). So why would I change?
Some people say I'm too skinny to. I've even been accused of not eating by some people that don't really know me. That used to bother me, but as I have gotten older, I'm more confident and secure so I'm like whatever.
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11-09-2011 at 02:49 PM.
11-09-2011 at 02:49 PM.
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i've since a while back switched to focus sets, but haven't had much luck..

and I have not mocked anyone.. all the fat girls have thus far taken a defensive position against me... I have not uttered any such negativity...

I have always argued simply that those girls could invest their time in workout vs the makeup.

I have NOT absolutely judged whether or not these girls are "good .. bad"
Well, first, you used the word "fat" other than say "overweight." The former is sure to offend. Second, it's still ridiculous that you think the solution is that simple and doesn't say much about your knowledge of nutrition, fitness, or basic psychology for matter.

If they are truly that fat, how do you propose they jog for 20 minutes? They would almost certainly have to start out with some type of low level interval training. To do any sort of exercise program at all though, you need energy to help maintain a good level of intensity during your workout. This energy isn't going to come from a cupcake, so now they have to eat a healthy source of carbs pre-workout also. But wait, it's important to have a solid meal after working out also in order to ensure proper recovery, muscle building, etc. After all, muscle will help you burn more calories. Now all of that exercise is certain to work up an appetite, so now you have to ensure that they aren't undoing all their efforts by gorging themselves on Ho-Hos. Of course, since they are sedentary aside from your magical jogging routine, their metabolisms are pretty much at a stand-still so they're really going to have watch their food intake. But wait - first you have to improve their self-efficacy (belief that they can do it), which is the single most important component of breaking any addiction or bad health habit. You also have to educate them about diet and nutrition. It would be very helpful if you could get all of their friends to lose weight also, as peer support systems play a big role in this as well. You know what. Let's just dismiss decades of health-related research. You obviously have it all figured out.
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11-09-2011 at 03:14 PM.
11-09-2011 at 03:14 PM.
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Well, first, you used the word "fat" other than say "overweight." The former is sure to offend. Second, it's still ridiculous that you think the solution is that simple and doesn't say much about your knowledge of nutrition, fitness, or basic psychology for matter.

If they are truly that fat, how do you propose they jog for 20 minutes? They would almost certainly have to start out with some type of low level interval training. To do any sort of exercise program at all though, you need energy to help maintain a good level of intensity during your workout. This energy isn't going to come from a cupcake, so now they have to eat a healthy source of carbs pre-workout also. But wait, it's important to have a solid meal after working out also in order to ensure proper recovery, muscle building, etc. After all, muscle will help you burn more calories. Now all of that exercise is certain to work up an appetite, so now you have to ensure that they aren't undoing all their efforts by gorging themselves on Ho-Hos. Of course, since they are sedentary aside from your magical jogging routine, their metabolisms are pretty much at a stand-still so they're really going to have watch their food intake. But wait - first you have to improve their self-efficacy (belief that they can do it), which is the single most important component of breaking any addiction or bad health habit. You also have to educate them about diet and nutrition. It would be very helpful if you could get all of their friends to lose weight also, as peer support systems play a big role in this as well. You know what. Let's just dismiss decades of health-related research. You obviously have it all figured out.
u can give them infinite excuses,, but that won't get them any closer to what they truly are out for LMAO

Quote from Osmium2001 :
I'm guessing you're not any leaner today or you would have posted a picture by now. you do realize that 3% bodyfat is low enough for you to actually die, don't you? bodybuilders get down to the 5% range only for a week or less at a time to do shows; the body can't sustain at that low of a bodyfat level.

If you're relying on calipers, then you're not pinching enough. If you are using bio-impedance and thinking it's accurate, then you're just plain dumb. if you think most women care about any of this, then you're borderline retarded.

the extreme contrast seen in magazines isn't doctored, or else they would look different in youtube videos. I even have separation, contrast, and faint striations at a pudgy 15+% when taking pictures with a simple point-and-click camera and a mirror in desparate need of cleaning.
well see, right there, you're already using top down lighting, a "technique" so to speak, I admit ur bigger than I ,, but i've never claimed to be a body builder,,
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11-09-2011 at 03:17 PM.
11-09-2011 at 03:17 PM.
Quote from MissyMooMoo :
You can laugh all you want.

#1 You have no idea of what I look like. I could be a VS model or I could be over 500 lbs for all you know. It doesn't make a difference in this conversation.

#2 There are men that like heavy women. There are websites and social clubs set up just for this purpose.

#3 There are also men that like women that aren't extremely heavy but also don't have their ribs showing.

When you grow up, you are going to discover that people are attracted to many different physical attributes. And, you don't necessarily develop a long term relationship with someone that has the phyical attributes that you prefer.

I know that you are just trolling. You can't expect anyone to believe after your posts that you don't think you are better than other people based solely on their size or physical fitness. I guess it's okay. It's nice that you can find a way to feel good about yourself.

I'm sure that not one of the 22 women you called "fat" care about what you think. They aren't interested in you and they don't care about your ideas for "fixing" them.
If you could be a VS model you would've posted a picture, except this rambling.. I only read up to "if i could be a VS model"

if so,, then you can say whatever u like,, i have no objection,, women of that caliber deserves unlimited tolerance...

So, which one in the catalogue are you. wave
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11-09-2011 at 03:21 PM.
11-09-2011 at 03:21 PM.
Quote from jj.12321 :
Well, according a lady on TV that sells clothes to plus side women (take with grain of salt), 60% of American women are overweight. IMO, that's believable.
I'm not saying that makes them a horrible person, etc but it's plausible to find 22 people on a bus that are overweight. Not all are obese of course.

And yes, I would estimate that about the same percentage of men are overweight too.
i was being generous with 22,, it was probably more if I up the bar to that of european standards
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11-09-2011 at 03:49 PM.
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Quote from tp4tissue :
u can give them infinite excuses,, but that won't get them any closer to what they truly are out for LMAO
No excuses. Ultimately it all comes down to choice, but there is much more involved in making that choice than you seem to be able to comprehend. Personally, I love working out, but why should I care if some stranger is overweight? I'm happy to judge people on more serious matters (e.g. a lack of basic morality), but I couldn't care less what their body composition is. Let me know if the bus starts imposing a fuel surcharge for reduced gas mileage due to excess cargo loads and maybe I'll join your campaign.
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