Man Says Ex-Girlfriend Stole His Sperm to Create Kids

If I may ask, how old is your boy?

And FWIW, this crap will come back and bite your ex in the ass. Trust me. Your son isn't stupid, he knows how his mother "supports" him and how his father "supports" him. When he is old enough to be on his own, the two of you will have a great relationship while your ex's relationship with him will be This is what happened to my SIL (my late wife's sister; aka, the bitch), she got child support but the son either stayed with the dad or at our house for a number of years. Now the son has a great relationship with his dad. Heck, I have a better relationship with him than his mother.

Sometimes though it's the other way around, where the father has the child - and won't allow the mother to see the child - and it backfires that way as well - that was the case with my nephew - and it bit the father in the ass when my nephew grew up.

It's a shame when the children get caught in the middle of all this "drama" - I hate it, really, really, really HATE IT with a passion

If I may ask, how old is your boy?

And FWIW, this crap will come back and bite your ex in the ass. Trust me. Your son isn't stupid, he knows how his mother "supports" him and how his father "supports" him. When he is old enough to be on his own, the two of you will have a great relationship while your ex's relationship with him will be This is what happened to my SIL (my late wife's sister; aka, the bitch), she got child support but the son either stayed with the dad or at our house for a number of years. Now the son has a great relationship with his dad. Heck, I have a better relationship with him than his mother.

Sometimes though it's the other way around, where the father has the child - and won't allow the mother to see the child - and it backfires that way as well - that was the case with my nephew - and it bit the father in the ass when my nephew grew up.

It's a shame when the children get caught in the middle of all this "drama" - I hate it, really, really, really HATE IT with a passion

He's 4.5. And yeah, I have no clue wtf she's thinking will happen when he find out she's been exploiting him to hurt me all of these years... but then again, thinking was never her strong point (obviously).

Of course my son likes her house better because I have rules and stuff, but I'm hoping that if I just stay consistent and everything, he'll figure it out...



Wow really? The father hardly EVER gets the child and usually there has to be something significantly wrong w/the mother.

I agreed with you up until the bolded part. After that I lost all respect for you. How dare you nor any man say that about a woman.

You can not control other people's actions.Unless you've actually been raped you have no idea what you're talking about.

You're not blaming her for stealing sperm out of a condom to impregnate herself without this man's consent?

I think that's how it is similar to a woman who was raped getting pregnant. I'm not downplaying rape because I know it's genuinely violent and traumatized, but rather that she is now pregnant without ever giving consent. It's not as if this guy was irresponsible and didn't use protection.

I think any reasonable and prudent person would not expect this man to keep tabs on the condom and its contents after it was tossed away. It is absolutely absurd to think that he is in any way at fault for what this woman did.

Is it really "stealing" though if he's tossed it aside or given it to her?

The laws just haven't caught up with technology. It's only very recently that you'd even be able to do this and create a child from it.

But that's not really comparable though, because he willingly entered into a sexual relationship with her. A rape victim does not.

I agreed with you up until the bolded part. After that I lost all respect for you. How dare you nor any man say that about a woman. If we have to get our tubes tied to walk out our door every day...what does that say about men? That would be like me saying "Well if that guy wore a butt plug when he went out the door today he wouldn't have gotten sodomized." See how farked up that sounds? You can not control other people's actions.Unless you've actually been raped you have no idea what you're talking about.

What this woman did was horrible and no person deserves it. Sure it could fall into the shoulda woulda coulda, but it all boils down that this woman needs help. The kids will suffer and the man doesn't want them. Could I blame him? Maybe. But that is your kids whether you like it or not. Your DNA is a part of those kids. Anyone that can just walk away from their kids says a lot about their character. This man wasn't raped he had intercourse with her consensually.

I hope you think the next time before you write an analogy. Some people including myself have been raped on here. With that said, I will be putting this thread on ignore. I feel like I need to take a warm shower to get clean from feeling degraded once again by a man.

Here you go ladies...Wear this every time you walk out the door. It's a sure bet that rape will not occur. Have a nice day!

I've had to ignore threads myself, for what appear to be similar reasons, so I can relate to you there.

I'm so grateful to Caydensmom for teaching me that words actually do have power, and that the way we use them really does affect other people. Until Bella came along I'd have typed my fingers bloody telling you how words can't hurt us if we don't let them. Now... well, I'm a little more willing to look at my part in things today. I don't guess I'm allowed to trample all over someone else's feelings while I stand up for something I believe in.

There's more I could say - and a lot more that I want to say - but I expect that fanning those flames isn't going to do much more than feed my ego. When I put my head down on my pillow tonight I don't want this argument running through it. It's a pretty clear case of "I'd rather be happy than right."

(I think I've lost my appetite for this particular argument anyhow; people seem to mostly be agreeing that the woman who stole the sperm is wrong, and if we disagree about specifics, well, that can certainly be fodder for discussion on another day.)

I'm sorry for what happened to you & I hope you can find some peace with it someday.

You give your purse, loaded with your cash and credit/debit cards to a member of your family or a friend to hold for you while you try something on...

If you consider your sperm that valuable, why are you giving it to someone to throw away? Or why are you throwing it away yourself? Wouldn't it make more sense for you to hold onto it for safe keeping?

If I tossed out a purse full of money and other stuff (which I wouldn't, that would just be stupid - are you saying men that toss out their sperm are stupid, too?) then I would fully expect someone to take it.

Nice analogy, thank you for making my point for me! You should probably be more careful where you're spreading that junk.

And it's sentences like those that keep me contently abstinent.

this happens all the time...

always take the condom with you after you're done.. ALWAYS



rationalization for something ?

If you consider your sperm that valuable, why are you giving it to someone to throw away?

Or why are you throwing it away yourself?

Wouldn't it make more sense for you to hold onto it for safe keeping?

If I tossed out a purse full of money and other stuff (which I wouldn't, that would just be stupid - are you saying men that toss out their sperm are stupid, too?) then I would fully expect someone to take it.

Nice analogy, thank you for making my point for me!

You should probably be more careful where you're spreading that junk.

If you consider your sperm that valuable, why are you giving it to someone to throw away? Or why are you throwing it away yourself? Wouldn't it make more sense for you to hold onto it for safe keeping?

If I tossed out a purse full of money and other stuff (which I wouldn't, that would just be stupid - are you saying men that toss out their sperm are stupid, too?) then I would fully expect someone to take it.

Nice analogy, thank you for making my point for me! You should probably be more careful where you're spreading that junk.

The man in the article may or may not have given it to her to throw away. It wasn't specified so the assumptions have been made by you and others here that he did, so being a man he is at fault because god knows that women are perfect, infallible, and they never are at fault for anything, so it was the man's fault. Even if he did give her the condom (or she removed it for him and said she would dispose of it...then didn't dispose of the condom like a normal person would think she would 'dispose' of the condom) it still isn't his fault the crazy woman kept it and extracted his semen for the sperm, stored it and had fertilization. No matter how YOU want to make him at fault for what she did, you can't.

I said once before that you hate men and I still think you do. You may be married but that doesn't prove you don't hate men, it merely confirms it in your case....and I'm not trying to be a prick and be mean, I am just being very honest.

What else should I do with it? Invent a sandwich spread for some people that might like that sort of thing? Just not have sex? Yeah, that sounds like what you are really suggesting....for men. Then the same would be true for women too....right? Just don't have sex. Don't ever get an abortion....just don't have sex. Has to be the same to be fair.....right?

Safe keeping for what? Is my semen going to be declared a legal currency so I can buy things at Target? Is my semen going to become a commodity and traded on the market? Or are you still on that sandwich spread idea? Why would I need to hold onto it when I create more all the time?

So the *cough* 'logic' *cough* in your post seems to be like those teachers in high school that preach only abstinence. From what I remember of teachers like that it would go something like this:

Mrs. Mal: Don't have sex!

Satan: Why Mrs. Mal?

Mrs. Mal: Don't have sex until you're married!

Satan: But why, Mrs. Mal? Why shouldn't I ever have sex until I'm married?

Mrs. Mal: Just don't have sex, you little bastard!

Satan: Um...ok....

That's your analogy, your 'logic' not mine. The man is at fault because he let her throw out the condom, and she kept the condom or extracted the semen from it, so the man is at fault.....because he's a man.

Using your *cough* 'logic' *cough* is the same, as a refresher for you since you didn't get it the first time. See, it doesn't matter whether you like it, my analogy to show the insanity of your 'logic' in your argument....your disliking it that I exposed how wrong you are doesn't change that I did. Just claiming victory like you did doesn't mean you are suddenly right, that all men are at fault for whatever a woman does......because they are men. Just means you hate men.

So here it it again for you: if you gave your purse to someone to hold for you for a few minutes while you tried on clothes at a store. That person (using your 'logic') could then reach into your purse and take your cash, your credit cards, and it would be your fault. You would have to even keep that credit card and pay the bills for years into the future as that person used it at their pleasure....because you are at fault and you need to be held responsible for your choices.

If you don't like my analogy that exposes the vulnerable underbelly and weakness, the insanity of your argument, then you shouldn't kick and scream....and attack me with statements that don't even make sense or withstand the test of logic when I do....then you shouldn't make such wild accusations and claims of responsibility at the man in the OP, men in general, or me personally.

The only point you have made is in showing more clearly that you're full of hate for men and/or that you're possibly.....um...........

That's one of the most common claims of those that have been exposed as having no logical argument that I have noticed on SD, the 'thanks for making my point for me!' type of 'counter-claim.' (or just claiming victory, really, because you lost....and might have embarrassed yourself, because a man destroyed your argument) It doesn't work or distract fro the fact that your argument was taken apart and exposed as just silly, sexist, illogical and wrong is somehow supposed to distract from the real point that your claims and 'logic' have been exposed as unworkable, illogical, etc......by a man. You might want to stay away from using that 'counter-claim' now that you know how it really makes you look.

Satan: But Mrs. Mal, if my (or any man's) semen is 'junk' something you find to be detestable and something you don't want to have exist because it's icky, then what does that make your 'stuff'? You know, your eggs....especially when they are evacuated from your body every month with.....with....when your Aunt Flo visits?

Mrs. Mal: It's beautiful!

Satan: But why Mrs. Mal?

Mrs. Mal: It just is, you little bastard! Now shut up! I'm right!