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Update on post 115. Have you ever had a potential employer verify your current income?

26,586 3,338 February 8, 2012 at 07:25 AM in Question
I am in the middle of a potential job change. Today is interview #2. This is a technical interview. Yesterday, they sent me the link to fill out their application. They asked what my current "verifiable compensation" is. Why is that any of their business? I only see that as a possible negotiating tool for them. If I put my current salary, it could cost me $5k-$10k in salary for this new potential job. But, if I exaggerate it and they find out, it could cost me the job. The guy I know who is recommending me for this position (and who is also doing the technical interview today) told me to exaggerate it. So, I did. Have you lied about your current income? Anyone ever had a potential employer actually ask for verification?
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moey
02-17-2012 at 12:12 PM.
02-17-2012 at 12:12 PM.
just tell him/her to just go pound dirt your not doing it, two weeks is customary and really can not think of anything where you could dispose of enough additional knowledge in two weeks to make it worth while.
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MissyMooMoo
02-17-2012 at 12:14 PM.
02-17-2012 at 12:14 PM.
Quote from Mavtech :
Ah crap. My current employer is being difficult. They called them and requested that my start date be pushed back 2 weeks. Well, there is a huge issue with that. My family would then have to go 2 weeks without insurance. I told him that is not an option. My insurance ends here on my last day and doesn't start at the other job until the 1st of the next month. He then mentioned pushing it back a whole month. That also is not an option because that would cost me quite a bit of money.

Do you mean that they contacted your new employer without going thru you? That's ridiculous. Why would they think it was okay to do that?

Just tell them no. Leave as scheduled.
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moey
02-17-2012 at 12:21 PM.
02-17-2012 at 12:21 PM.
You could offer as a gesture of good will to work 10 hour days to allow others to learn your vast knowledge for two weeks. Once I gave my two weeks I started to disappear for long periods of the day to go across the street and get coffee.
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Mavtech
02-17-2012 at 12:31 PM.
02-17-2012 at 12:31 PM.
Quote from MissyMooMoo :
Do you mean that they contacted your new employer without going thru you? That's ridiculous. Why would they think it was okay to do that?

Just tell them no. Leave as scheduled.
Exactly right. My new employer called me this morning and told me. They are surprised by this as well.
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marg_fan
02-17-2012 at 12:40 PM.
02-17-2012 at 12:40 PM.
Silly question and forgive me if it has been answered earlier but how did your current employer find out where you will be working in the future?
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Mavtech
02-17-2012 at 12:42 PM.
02-17-2012 at 12:42 PM.
Quote from marg_fan :
Silly question and forgive me if it has been answered earlier but how did your current employer find out where you will be working in the future?
They asked me where I was going. Because the conversation was going so civil-like, I didn't see any harm in telling them. But, I am now regretting that decision.
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Fallacy
02-17-2012 at 12:46 PM.
02-17-2012 at 12:46 PM.
It's pretty simple to me.

Ask your future employer if they're OK with it, if they say no -- you leave on the 28th.
If they say yes, tell your current employer that the only way you're going to stay an extra 2 weeks is if they pay you for a full month of health insurance. If they say no -- you leave on the 28th.

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Curtieson
02-17-2012 at 12:59 PM.
02-17-2012 at 12:59 PM.
Quote from marg_fan :
Silly question and forgive me if it has been answered earlier but how did your current employer find out where you will be working in the future?
(that is a good point!)

Quote from Mavtech :
Exactly right. My new employer called me this morning and told me. They are surprised by this as well.
A guy I worked with got a new job...his current boss called his upcoming boss and told them if they went through hiring him, that the current company would make it very hard for the new company to get contracts with the current company anymore (and he did have the power to do that).

The guy swapping jobs found out because the new company called and said 'we don't want you if that is what it costs'...EEK!...well, the guy swapping flipped out, threatened to sue, was at the airport flying to a job site for the week...so he drove back into the office from the airport, dropped off his stuff and said "f-off"

It was pretty crazy.
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emelvee
02-17-2012 at 01:05 PM.
02-17-2012 at 01:05 PM.
Congrats on the new job! woot
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Mavtech
02-17-2012 at 01:09 PM.
02-17-2012 at 01:09 PM.
Quote from Fallacy :
It's pretty simple to me.

Ask your future employer if they're OK with it, if they say no -- you leave on the 28th.
If they say yes, tell your current employer that the only way you're going to stay an extra 2 weeks is if they pay you for a full month of health insurance. If they say no -- you leave on the 28th.

Dontknow
Yeah, this is the plan.
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Schooby
02-17-2012 at 01:34 PM.
02-17-2012 at 01:34 PM.
Quote from Fallacy :
It's pretty simple to me.

Ask your future employer if they're OK with it, if they say no -- you leave on the 28th.
If they say yes, tell your current employer that the only way you're going to stay an extra 2 weeks is if they pay you for a full month of health insurance. If they say no -- you leave on the 28th.

Dontknow
^^^^ This.
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brbubba
02-17-2012 at 02:32 PM.
02-17-2012 at 02:32 PM.
Quote from Mavtech :
They asked me where I was going. Because the conversation was going so civil-like, I didn't see any harm in telling them. But, I am now regretting that decision.
Yeah typically speaking you would think there's not much harm in that, but you need to grab your boss by the balls and tell not to do shit like that or he's begging for legal action.

Also I don't know why you are freaking out about insurance. Typically speaking your insurance doesn't end mid month and even if it did there are things such as COBRA to CYA. Also your new insurance isn't likely to kick in until the 1st of the next month.


Quote from Curtieson :
(that is a good point!)



A guy I worked with got a new job...his current boss called his upcoming boss and told them if they went through hiring him, that the current company would make it very hard for the new company to get contracts with the current company anymore (and he did have the power to do that).

The guy swapping jobs found out because the new company called and said 'we don't want you if that is what it costs'...EEK!...well, the guy swapping flipped out, threatened to sue, was at the airport flying to a job site for the week...so he drove back into the office from the airport, dropped off his stuff and said "f-off"

It was pretty crazy.
So what happened? That's a majorly sheisty situation.
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SlickChik
02-17-2012 at 08:13 PM.
02-17-2012 at 08:13 PM.
Quote from Mavtech :
They asked me where I was going. Because the conversation was going so civil-like, I didn't see any harm in telling them. But, I am now regretting that decision.
Ugh. Frown I don't have advice but I feel for ya! hug
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LordOfChaos
02-18-2012 at 06:17 AM.
02-18-2012 at 06:17 AM.
If it were me I would tell my future employer not to worry about what the current employer asked and tell them you will be there in two weeks.

Then I would tell my current employer that they should have asked ME if I was ok with pushing my start date back. Then inform them that "if you had gone through me and not made such a stupid breach of etiquette I would have discussed the matter with my future employer and worked the extra two weeks. As it is though, I will be starting my new position as planned in two weeks".

But that is just me, seems like Mavtech is a little more even keeled than I am Stick Out Tongue
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SDRebel
02-18-2012 at 06:35 AM.
02-18-2012 at 06:35 AM.
Quote from Mavtech :
Yeah, this is the plan.
Agree with Fallacy, ask your new employer if they are ok with that. Tell them they didn't ask you about it before contacting them
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