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Couple Valentine Role-Play leads to arrest.... Dumb cops
February 15, 2012 at
02:56 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headl...role-play/
So now we are responsible for other people's stupidty or stupid assumptions in calling 911?
Maybe next time when I see a white baby being wheeled around by a non-white person, I get to call 911 and report that as kidnapping and have them arrested..
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One couples' bondage role play on Valentine's Day ended in handcuffs, but not the fuzzy kind.Portland, Ore., police received a call Tuesday afternoon that a naked woman was tied up in the back of a Subaru last seen leaving a supermarket parking lot. Police deployed "at least nine cars" to look for the SUV and even alerted authorities in Washington in case the car crossed the state line. Twenty minutes later, the Subaru was seen pulling into the driveway of the registered owner's address. Nikolas Harbar, 31, who was the driver, told police that he and his girlfriend were "doing some Valentine's Day role playing." Once police confirmed with Stephanie Pelzner, 26, that she was voluntarily nude and tied up, they slapped a pair of cuffs on the couple and booked them on one charge of disorderly conduct in the second degree. "Role-play all you want," Sgt. Pete Simpson told ABC affiliate KATU. "But when you do something that is going to generate a 911 call, you should probably do it at home." |
Maybe next time when I see a white baby being wheeled around by a non-white person, I get to call 911 and report that as kidnapping and have them arrested..
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If this statement isn't then I don't know what is. How lame and sad.
Maybe next time when I see a white baby being wheeled around by a non-white person, I get to call 911 and report that as kidnapping and have them arrested..
You're one of those guys that would make his "hot daughter" walk around naked, right? Because it's totally natural, right?
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Yes I have a problem with stupid ass cops who need to arrest people even after they found out NO FOUL PLAY was ever involved and it was just two couples out enjoying their lives like what FREE PEOPLE do in a FREE SOCIETY.. obviously concepts like these are too hard for a weak mind to understand...
Yes I have a problem with stupid ass cops who need to arrest people even after they found out NO FOUL PLAY was ever involved and it was just two couples out enjoying their lives like what FREE PEOPLE do in a FREE SOCIETY.. obviously concepts like these are too hard for a weak mind to understand...
Maybe you need to re-read your thread. But I guess that's asking too much.
http://naturistaction.
(a) An act of sexual intercourse; or
(b) An act of deviate sexual intercourse; or
(c) An act of exposing the genitals of the person with the intent of arousing the sexual desire of the person or another person.
(2)
(a) Public indecency is a Class A misdemeanor.
(b) Notwithstanding paragraph (a) of this subsection, public indecency is a Class C felony if the person has a prior conviction for public indecency or a crime described in ORS 163.355 to 163.445. [1971 c.743 s.120; 1999 c.962 s.1]
Note: Section 3, chapter 962, Oregon Laws 1999, provides:
Sec. 3. The Oregon Criminal Justice Commission shall classify felony public indecency as a person felony and crime category 6 of the sentencing guidelines grid of the commission. [1999 c.962 s.3]
You're one of those guys that would make his "hot daughter" walk around naked, right? Because it's totally natural, right?
I bet when you have kids you going to bath them with their bathing suits on....
Maybe you can ask Miranda Kerr daddy how he feels about that... does a catwalk count?
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Sure, it's illegal to be naked in public. But if the girl was actually naked in public...then why wasn't she charged with indecent exposure? Why was the charge 2nd degree Disorderly Conduct?
Here's the statutory definition of disorderly conduct in Oregon:
a. Fighting or engaging in violent or threatening behavior
b. Making unreasonable noise,
c. Disturbing a lawful assembly,
d. Obstructing traffic in public,
e. Congregating with other people in public and refusing a police order to disperse,
f. Initiating or circulating a false report concerning fire, explosion, or other emergency, or
g. Creating a hazardous or physically offensive condition by any act which you are not privileged to do.
So call the cops on them? Sure. Arrest them to give em a scare/teach em a lesson? OK. Charge them with a crime? Nah.
Sure, it's illegal to be naked in public. But if the girl was actually naked in public...then why wasn't she charged with indecent exposure? Why was the charge 2nd degree Disorderly Conduct?
Here's the statutory definition of disorderly conduct in Oregon:
Obviously, A-G do not apply from the above list. Perhaps one can say that they created public alarm, but then we have to establish intent--they *wanted* people to see and they *wanted* people to freak out. That's clearly not the case. Stupidity and malicious intent are not the same thing.
So call the cops on them? Sure. Arrest them to give em a scare/teach em a lesson? OK. Charge them with a crime? Nah.
Edit: Looks like they plead guilty. I'd still rather be charged with a non-sexual crime and not be labelled a sex offender as opposed to being charged with a sex crime and having that label on me for the rest of my life.
Edit: Looks like they plead guilty. I'd still rather be charged with a non-sexual crime and not be labelled a sex offender as opposed to being charged with a sex crime and having that label on me for the rest of my life.
I'm nott so sure that indecent exposure applies here. Time to get ready for the gym, but here's what I find on the google:
Public indecency
(1) A person commits the crime of public indecency if while in, or in view of, a public place the person performs:
(a) An act of sexual intercourse;
(b) An act of deviate sexual intercourse; or
(c) An act of exposing the genitals of the person with the intent of arousing the sexual desire of the person or another person.
Edit: Looks like they plead guilty. I'd still rather be charged with a non-sexual crime and not be labelled a sex offender as opposed to being charged with a sex crime and having that label on me for the rest of my life.
how about NOT CHARGED at all....since it was just Harmless fun that people have since we are still living in a FREE SOCIETY.. you understand the concept of freedom, but i guess your dad was too busy covering you up im clothes then teaching you...
too bad you never lived in europe, otherwise you think you walked into a place the bible warned you about
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Sure, it's illegal to be naked in public. But if the girl was actually naked in public...then why wasn't she charged with indecent exposure? Why was the charge 2nd degree Disorderly Conduct?
Here's the statutory definition of disorderly conduct in Oregon:
Obviously, A-G do not apply from the above list. Perhaps one can say that they created public alarm, but then we have to establish intent--they *wanted* people to see and they *wanted* people to freak out. That's clearly not the case. Stupidity and malicious intent are not the same thing.
So call the cops on them? Sure. Arrest them to give em a scare/teach em a lesson? OK. Charge them with a crime? Nah.
Be It Enacted by the People of the State of Oregon:
SECTION 1. ORS 166.025 is amended to read:
166.025. (1) A person commits the crime of disorderly conduct in the second degree if, with intent to cause public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm, or recklessly creating a risk thereof, the person:
(a) Engages in fighting or in violent, tumultuous or threatening behavior;
(b) Makes unreasonable noise;
(c) Disturbs any lawful assembly of persons without lawful authority;
(d) Obstructs vehicular or pedestrian traffic on a public way;
(e) Congregates with other persons in a public place and refuses to comply with a lawful order of the police to disperse;
(f) Initiates or circulates a report, knowing it to be false, concerning an alleged or impending fire, explosion, crime, catastrophe or other emergency; or
(g) Creates a hazardous or physically offensive condition by any act which the person is not licensed or privileged to do.
(2) Disorderly conduct in the second degree is a Class B misdemeanor.
This is a bit more detailed and the charge makes perfect sense.