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Why do you have to switch workplaces to get higher raises?

4,841 1,079 March 14, 2012 at 03:33 PM in Computers (4)
It seems so stupid. My current job wants to give me a 2% raise.... on 51k because I'm an "admin" - while others who get paid more then me and have the whole summer off get 3%

Friends are telling me the only way to get more is to switch workplaces. Problem is I really like the job, they just need to pay me!!

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DavidAllen601
03-14-2012 at 05:36 PM.
03-14-2012 at 05:36 PM.
Quote from TigerStar :
You should quit.

With real unemployment around 15%, I'm betting they will have a hard time filling your position.
A wise man indeed.
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chevvy
03-14-2012 at 05:36 PM.
03-14-2012 at 05:36 PM.
Quote from TigerStar :
You should quit.

With real unemployment around 15%, I'm betting they will have a hard time filling your position.

Iagree
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Iaaaiws
03-14-2012 at 06:23 PM.
03-14-2012 at 06:23 PM.
The reason you have to change workplaces to get more money is that your current boss already knows what a slacker you are and how much time you really waste during the workday.

The boss at your future workplace is a foolish optimist who believes bringing in new blood is worth more money and believes you will actually be a productive employee.
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teenbean
03-14-2012 at 07:11 PM.
03-14-2012 at 07:11 PM.
Where I work, anyone who is salary did not get a raise. Plus they let a hundreds of people go last week. So be happy you have a job.
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Pig
03-14-2012 at 07:29 PM.
03-14-2012 at 07:29 PM.
Hmm...Made me think. I haven't changed jobs in 7 years....
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emelvee
03-15-2012 at 05:43 AM.
03-15-2012 at 05:43 AM.
I've never received a large jump when switching jobs. I've also never left a job because of the pay...there are a lot of other more important factors in my deciding where to work.
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Scampsters
03-15-2012 at 06:15 AM.
03-15-2012 at 06:15 AM.
Generally the longer people stay at a company the more 'comfortable' they get which equals a diminishing return on productivity for that employee. Most people dont work hard if they dont have to, only real thing that makes people do their jobs is a fear of losing theirs. You know how much your supervisor /boss monitors your productivity and if he doesnt tell you to pick up the pace in employee reviews, why bother.

So your pay raise is rewarding you for a profitable quarter not because you worked harder.

How do you know that your cubicle partner at the other job isnt talking loudly on the phone , slacking off making personal calls and bringing disgusting smell items for lunch that stink up the microwave and your cubicle.
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Kabn
03-15-2012 at 06:19 AM.
03-15-2012 at 06:19 AM.
because as long as you aren't unemployed, you can leverage your talent, the company's need, and the risk/hassle of changing employers to get your prospective employer to offer you more money.

when considering my current position and comparing it to my old one, there were pros and cons both ways; both of them are good jobs. it just so happened that my current employer was at a point in its growth that my department needed someone with my experience. so i told my them that i'd need an ~11% raise to get me to switch over and leave the security of my old job (with the government).

as for why you don't get a good raise: they already have you. your only leverage is that you might leave, and in this job climate, they're probably not terrified of that. they know you know the risk/hassle inherent in switching jobs and figure you won't leave over 1-2%.
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PiratePenguin
03-15-2012 at 06:59 AM.
03-15-2012 at 06:59 AM.
Don't just look at your pay, look at your benefits too. My companies offers lower salaries but large bonuses and a great 401k policy (they give 15% if you give 3%), as well as a very good insurance program. Additionally 40hr weeks are all that are required and comp time is given for any time over that.

You have to look at the whole picture. You might not be sitting as bad as you think.
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Marchdude
03-15-2012 at 07:01 AM.
03-15-2012 at 07:01 AM.
Quote from nizzy1115 :
Don't just look at your pay, look at your benefits too. My companies offers lower salaries but large bonuses and a great 401k policy (they give 15% if you give 3%), as well as a very good insurance program. Additionally 40hr weeks are all that are required and comp time is given for any time over that.

You have to look at the whole picture. You might not be sitting as bad as you think.

Are you serious? 15% matching? This is the first time I've heard this.
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PiratePenguin
03-15-2012 at 07:03 AM.
03-15-2012 at 07:03 AM.
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Are you serious? 15% matching? This is the first time I've heard this.
Yes, Its to replace the now dead pension program.
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ALVSGIRLY
03-15-2012 at 07:04 AM.
03-15-2012 at 07:04 AM.
Dh's gives 15-25% unmatched. Plus he gets that % paid on his bonuses! It's awesome. Last year it was 22% I think!
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Marchdude
03-15-2012 at 07:05 AM.
03-15-2012 at 07:05 AM.
Quote from nizzy1115 :
Yes, Its to replace the now dead pension program.
I understand the company wants to get rid of old DB plan, but 15% matching is just...you aren't work for goverment or contractor of goverment, are you?
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PiratePenguin
03-15-2012 at 07:08 AM.
03-15-2012 at 07:08 AM.
Quote from Marchdude :
I understand the company wants to get rid of old DB plan, but 15% matching is just...you aren't work for goverment or contractor of goverment, are you?
Nope Smilie Did before, and let me tell you that was awful. Talk about budget cuts.
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Marchdude
03-15-2012 at 07:09 AM.
03-15-2012 at 07:09 AM.
Quote from nizzy1115 :
Nope Smilie Did before, and let me tell you that was awful. Talk about budget cuts.
My company only has 4% matching for 401k. It sucks.
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