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Am I required to disclose this information before having sex?

7,598 277 March 29, 2007 at 05:33 AM in Question
My girlfriend was informed by her gynocologist that she has the human papillomavirus, or HPV. It's impossible to tell who had it first, but I'm most likely a carrier now as well. For those of you who don't know, HPV is a virus that's said to be a prerequisite for cervical cancer in women. Men can carry the virus, but it's nearly harmless for them.

Some HPV facts from wikipedia:
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HPV is the most common sexual transmitted infection in the United States. In the United States approximately 20-million people are currently infected with HPV about 6.2 million Americans will get infected with genital HPV this year.

24.5% prevalence of HPV among females 14 to 19 years old
44.8% prevalence of HPV among females 20 to 24 years old
27.4% prevalence of HPV among females 25 to 29 years old
27.5% prevalence of HPV among females 30 to 39 years old
25.2% prevalence of HPV among females 40 to 49 years old
19.6% prevalence of HPV among females 50 to 59 years old

In the absence of Pap testing or treatment, about 1% of women with genital HPV infections will eventually go on to develop cervical cancer.

Women who have Pap testing or other cervical cancer screenings on a regular basis dramatically decrease their chances of developing cervical cancer.

A 2006 study of 82 college students suggests that condoms can be up to 70% effective for preventing genital HPV infection if used for every sexual encounter.
Here's my question. Am I required to disclose this information before having relations with another woman? I have a feeling that everyone's kneejerk reaction will be "yes", but please consider the following. There's a huge chance that the woman already has the virus, and if she doesn't already she'll probably get it in the future*. With a condom, she probably won't get it from me anyway. With pap testing, there's a very very low risk of cancer. And quite frankly, I feel that she won't know all the facts and will think it's a bigger deal than it actually is.

Thoughts?







*Genital HPV infection is very common, with estimates suggesting that more than 50% of women will become infected with one or more of the sexually transmitted HPV types at some point during adulthood.[7]

The American Social Health Association projections in 2006 were yet more pessimistic, predicting that about 75% of the reproductive population will have been infected with genital HPV infection in their lifetime.
Would YOU disclose that you're an HPV carrier? (please read the wiki facts first)
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03-29-2007 at 08:14 AM.
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03-29-2007 at 08:27 AM.
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03-29-2007 at 08:29 AM.
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laugh out loud This discussion has taken that inevitable turn for the "worse" ...hey, we gave it 100 solid posts before jacking it. I believe that is the requisite time for serious discussion threads.

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03-29-2007 at 08:34 AM.
03-29-2007 at 08:34 AM.
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Now that you mention it...I have this hazy memory of a guy with his pants down...OMG..that was you?!? EEK!

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laugh out loud This discussion has taken that inevitable turn for the "worse" ...hey, we gave it 100 solid posts before jacking it. I believe that is the requisite time for serious discussion threads.

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scorpioguy
03-29-2007 at 08:35 AM.
03-29-2007 at 08:35 AM.
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No prob. Smilie I figured my experience would come to some use...

I think people think of HPV wrongly... honestly, yes, it is something that is transmitted sexually, but it's so common! It's not like someone has HIV or anything. As far as we know, if it doesn't progress to cervical cancer, it's not fatal.

And most forms of HPV are completely dormant- it doesn't do anything.

From what I understand, only one type causes external physical symptoms (genital warts) which is very rare... and then there are several types (13, I think) that causes cancer.

People who get HPV rarely have done anything wrong... a lot of times they aren't promiscuous or anything like that. It's just the norm, unfortunately.

And trust me, I've been a good girl my whole life Wink , so if I have the type that causes cancer, I know that it's waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more common than people think.
here you are making the assumption that just cos 1. HPV is common, 2. the chances that its fatal are slim ( but still exist), 3. rarely leads to genital warts, 4.they still MIGHT be able to have kids...its ok to not disclose it.....that is just the most stupid argument for a case i could imagine....given the choice that you could have avoided contracting it (regardless of how you contracted it)....would you have said ...oh geee...its so common place, gimme a double dose of HPV...or would you have said u know what i choose not to get it.....now that you have it and had it treated you are in the position where you can ONLY deal with it...you cant make it go away. all you are doing and all ur "experience" has taught you is how to cope with it.....hell if its so harmless., why not give every one a dose and make the playing field even....it all comes down to choice...you and i and anyone else only have the right to choose whats goes into OUR bodies....we dont have the right to choose what goes into someone elses.
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Gray.
03-29-2007 at 08:39 AM.
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here you are making the assumption that just cos 1. HPV is common, 2. the chances that its fatal are slim ( but still exist), 3. rarely leads to genital warts...its ok to not disclose it.....that is just the most stupid argument for a case i could imagine....given the choice that you could have avoided contracting it (regardless of how you contracted it)....would you have said ...oh geee...its so common place, gimme a double dose of HPV...or would you have said u know what i choose not to get it.....now that you have it and had it treated you are in the position where you can ONLY deal with it...you cant make it go away. all you are doing and all ur "experience" has taught you is how to cope with it.....hell if its so harmless., why not give every one a dose and make the playing field even....it all comes down to choice...you and i and anyone else only have the right to choose whats goes into OUR bodies....we dont have the right to choose what goes into someone elses.
Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

That's not what I said.

I said that more than likely she has it anyways.

Should people get the vaccine? Yes. But if one takes the necessary precautions once they know they have HPV, they will be ok. It's not a huge deal... it's not like HIV or herpes or anything - it is treatable! Most people don't have side effects- you have to admit that! And when they do, if they are getting their paps regularly like they should be then it is easily taken care of.

Besides, how would you know anyways? I'm the one who has more experience with this than you when it comes to this issue. I went through the cryosurgery. I went through the pain. And if I came out on the other side then I think most people should be able to. Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

Anyways, for your information, I voted that he should tell her.

Get your facts straight.
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SlickChik
03-29-2007 at 08:40 AM.
03-29-2007 at 08:40 AM.
BTW OP, there is no treatment or cure for HPV.

Also, if I was dating someone that knew and they didn't tell me......I would be all kinds of pissed off. (I've been tested and know I don't have it).
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Gray.
03-29-2007 at 08:43 AM.
03-29-2007 at 08:43 AM.
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BTW OP, there is no treatment or cure for HPV.

Also, if I was dating someone that knew and they didn't tell me......I would be all kinds of pissed off. (I've been tested and know I don't have it).
There is treatment. It is treatable, but not curable.

If there was no treatment, GirlRacer and I would have full-blown cervical cancer by now.

See, even AIDS and herpes are treatable... but the problem with those are that with AIDS, you will die. With herpes, you will have painful side effects.

With HPV, there are so many types out there that have no symptoms. You can live a normal life, have children, whatever! If you have the type where it gives you genital warts, that is treatable... if you have the type where it would give you cervical cancer, that is treatable. But most people will have no side effects.
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03-29-2007 at 08:44 AM.
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03-29-2007 at 08:46 AM.
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let me ask you ladies

if say, you maybe on #rd date and ready to have sex, if a guy tells u he has it (and you still like it) would you still have sex with him (not mentioning condom since it's mandatory), or wait til you read up on or, or just drop him...
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03-29-2007 at 08:48 AM.
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Morally and responsibly, you need to disclose TG.

It won't end your sex life; but it will make you more aware of what you are doing, that is for sure; time to grow up and face the music here; you are responsible not only for yourself; but you are just as responsible to let your sexual partners know that you have this as well; it's the right thing to do!
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03-29-2007 at 08:50 AM.
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let me ask you ladies

if say, you maybe on #rd date and ready to have sex, if a guy tells u he has it (and you still like it) would you still have sex with him (not mentioning condom since it's mandatory), or wait til you read up on or, or just drop him...
I would make sure that he has the kind that is not related to the symptomatic types of HPV.

I wonder, is there a way to check in guys to see what strain it is?

Although, if I would've been making this decision before I got my precancerous I probably would have said no. But now that I'm educated about it and I know what the risks are, I would just make sure there was no serious risk involved if I were to sleep with this guy. Because for all I know, if I haven't been tested or experienced any side effects, I could have HPV as well!
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03-29-2007 at 08:51 AM.
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I think he should only be responsible to disclose it if he is going to have unprotected sex with her. It's kind of like having herpes (the mouth sore herpes). People will react more seriously than it really is if you tell them you are a carrier.
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03-29-2007 at 08:51 AM.
03-29-2007 at 08:51 AM.
Isn't HPV untestable unless you're having a breakout at that time? Just curious since there's so many claiming "I'm 10000% positive I don't have it"
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