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Am I required to disclose this information before having sex?

7,598 277 March 29, 2007 at 05:33 AM in Question
My girlfriend was informed by her gynocologist that she has the human papillomavirus, or HPV. It's impossible to tell who had it first, but I'm most likely a carrier now as well. For those of you who don't know, HPV is a virus that's said to be a prerequisite for cervical cancer in women. Men can carry the virus, but it's nearly harmless for them.

Some HPV facts from wikipedia:
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HPV is the most common sexual transmitted infection in the United States. In the United States approximately 20-million people are currently infected with HPV about 6.2 million Americans will get infected with genital HPV this year.

24.5% prevalence of HPV among females 14 to 19 years old
44.8% prevalence of HPV among females 20 to 24 years old
27.4% prevalence of HPV among females 25 to 29 years old
27.5% prevalence of HPV among females 30 to 39 years old
25.2% prevalence of HPV among females 40 to 49 years old
19.6% prevalence of HPV among females 50 to 59 years old

In the absence of Pap testing or treatment, about 1% of women with genital HPV infections will eventually go on to develop cervical cancer.

Women who have Pap testing or other cervical cancer screenings on a regular basis dramatically decrease their chances of developing cervical cancer.

A 2006 study of 82 college students suggests that condoms can be up to 70% effective for preventing genital HPV infection if used for every sexual encounter.
Here's my question. Am I required to disclose this information before having relations with another woman? I have a feeling that everyone's kneejerk reaction will be "yes", but please consider the following. There's a huge chance that the woman already has the virus, and if she doesn't already she'll probably get it in the future*. With a condom, she probably won't get it from me anyway. With pap testing, there's a very very low risk of cancer. And quite frankly, I feel that she won't know all the facts and will think it's a bigger deal than it actually is.

Thoughts?







*Genital HPV infection is very common, with estimates suggesting that more than 50% of women will become infected with one or more of the sexually transmitted HPV types at some point during adulthood.[7]

The American Social Health Association projections in 2006 were yet more pessimistic, predicting that about 75% of the reproductive population will have been infected with genital HPV infection in their lifetime.
Would YOU disclose that you're an HPV carrier? (please read the wiki facts first)
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03-29-2007 at 11:09 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:09 AM.
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Women ruin it for themselves by saying things like "My cramps are so bad... imagine being kicked in the nuts all day long.." They are NOT the same. Nono
Bigeye Imagine childbirth without medication ... then imagine someone teasingly threaten to perform it suddenly and without provocation.
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SnakePlisken
03-29-2007 at 11:09 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:09 AM.
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I just meant in general when it comes to womanly pains. Now get yer ass back in the litchen and make me some cookies! Whip
Better post directions to it.
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Caydensmom
03-29-2007 at 11:10 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:10 AM.
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Better post directions to it.
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stimpy
03-29-2007 at 11:14 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:14 AM.
Striker's post wasn't that bad ... had it included the spoiler after the last line that I was expecting .THAT would have been bad. EEK!



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Ram|bunc|tious
03-29-2007 at 11:17 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:17 AM.
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Better post directions to it.
Can't be that difficult. I normally just turn my head over my shoulder and order up whatever pleases me and then it arrives. The sandwiches, cold beer, and sometimes other OTs are quickly brought forth. How hard can it be?
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stimpy
03-29-2007 at 11:20 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:20 AM.
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I'm glad to see we both tend to think alike then. Well I guess I'm going to take some heat for this but my oldest DD is 17 and has been dating the same boy for 2 years now. She says they are not sexually active. Do I believe her? I want too. Do I think they might become active? Of course!

DD and I discussed it and I scheduled her first OB appt to go in and get a physical and birth control. Am I giving her permission to run out and have sex? Hell no! Do I want her educated in how to stay safe if she does? Of course! Would I prefer she wait until she is married? HELL yes! I lost alot of sleep over this one, but only time will tell if I made the right choice.
I don't think it would hurt to show her SOME of this thread .... just so she understands how realistic all of this is ... that pregnancy is not the only thing to worry about. Show her how pretty thegoalie is too while you're at it Wink ....

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How hard can it be?
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03-29-2007 at 11:22 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:22 AM.
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Shutup
This thread was getting dangerously close to being back on topic - something must be done!
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Caydensmom
03-29-2007 at 11:23 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:23 AM.
Quote from stimpy :
I don't think it would hurt to show her SOME of this thread .... just so she understands how realistic all of this is ... that pregnancy is not the only thing to worry about. Show her how pretty thegoalie is too while you're at it Wink ....

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I'm not sure she;s ready for the lounge yet LMAO
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03-29-2007 at 11:28 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:28 AM.
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Bigeye Imagine childbirth without medication ... then imagine someone teasingly threaten to perform it suddenly and without provocation.
go pee some stones from your uretha, and tell me if child birth isn't a cake walk compared to passing stones.
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03-29-2007 at 11:32 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:32 AM.
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I'm not sure she;s ready for the lounge yet LMAO
Do you think she'll ever be ready? laugh out loud
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sassysour
03-29-2007 at 11:35 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:35 AM.
Quote from Slinger :
go pee some stones from your uretha, and tell me if child birth isn't a cake walk compared to passing stones.

I don't get it, girls pee stones out too? Confused A childs skull is much bigger than a stone. My cervix ripped giving birth to my 6lber. Not trying to one-up you, but your example didn't make sense to me.
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RugratsGalore
03-29-2007 at 11:38 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:38 AM.
I've read some of the replies here but not all of them.

HPV can be serious. I know, I ended up with cervical cancer because of it.

When I found out I was pregnant with my last child, my pap came back abnormal. I have had to go for a pap every THREE months for the past FOUR year. I had a colposcopy every 3 months, even through my pregnancy. I had my daughter in Oct. 2003 and in Jan. 2005 it had advanced from dysplasia to cancer (very early stage.) I had a LEEP, which was HORRIBLE. The procedure itself wasn't painful to me. I was awake the entire time and had it done in my GYN's office. It was the lidocaine injected into my cervix before that did me in. It made my heart race SO bad I felt like I was having a heart attack. That sent me into a panic attack and caused me to hyperventilate.

I had some light cramping for a few days after but nothing major. For me, the worst part was the lidocaine injections before.

It has been almost 2.5 years since the LEEP and I still receive paps every 3 months. Thankfully, they've all been normal since I had the LEEP. But, I already dicussed with my GYN that if one ever comes back abnormal again I'm not messing around with another LEEP. It'll be a hysterectomy for me since I'm done having kids. BTW, it's definitely possible to get pregnant and carry a baby to term if you have HPV, I did. It's also possible to have cervical biopsies while pregnant, I did every 3 months for the entire 9 months. And, it's possible to have a baby after having a LEEP and happens quite often.

I would bet my bank account that there's A LOT more women on this board that have HPV that aren't willing to admit it or don't know they have it. I have never shown any signs of having HPV other than the abnormal cervical cells.

I have two daughters and they'll both receive the vaccination again HPV when they're old enough.

Lastly, HPV can hit anyone. I'm far from a slut. Shit, I haven't even had sex in well over a year. And for the record, since having my LEEP, my GYN tells me all the time how pretty my cervix looks Smilie So, there's nothing visible even there.

Oh, one more thing. I don't know if it's different depending on what doctor you see, but my GYN told me they don't even test for HPV unless you've had an abnormal pap. So, those of you that have said you know for sure you don't have it, you might want to make sure your GYN even tests for it routinely. It's my understanding a lot of doctor's don't test for HPV unless there's a reason to (abnormal pap.) And, you can still have HPV and have a normal pap, depending on how long you've had HPV.
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03-29-2007 at 11:38 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:38 AM.
Quote from Slinger :
go pee some stones from your uretha, and tell me if child birth isn't a cake walk compared to passing stones.

Don't get me wrong, both are painful....but I think passing a stone will bring a man as close as possible to experiencing the type of pain endured by giving birth to a child.....
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03-29-2007 at 11:40 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:40 AM.
Quote from Ram|bunc|tious :
Bigeye Imagine childbirth without medication ... then imagine someone teasingly threaten to perform it suddenly and without provocation.
I don't have to imagine child birth without medication. I've done it 4 times already. It's nothing. As a matter of fact, I did the last one on my living room floor without medical professionals. I found the kidney infection I had to be 1000 times worse than a natural child birth.
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03-29-2007 at 11:42 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:42 AM.
Quote from sassysour :
I don't get it, girls pee stones out too? Confused A childs skull is much bigger than a stone. My cervix ripped giving birth to my 6lber. Not trying to one-up you, but your example didn't make sense to me.
So you experience a little discomfort during childbirth Wink at least you have the option of being heavily medicated and can see it coming. Being kicked in the jimmy can come out of nowhere and that sudden flash of pain is instantly dehabiliting. I'm pretty sure that even during childbirth, my wife, numb from the waist down from drugs, could have the fortitude to hop her ass out of the stirrups and kick my ass if I started flirting with the nurses. On the other hand, it would take an act of God to get me out of the fetal position shortly after being racked.
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