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Am I required to disclose this information before having sex?

7,598 277 March 29, 2007 at 05:33 AM in Question
My girlfriend was informed by her gynocologist that she has the human papillomavirus, or HPV. It's impossible to tell who had it first, but I'm most likely a carrier now as well. For those of you who don't know, HPV is a virus that's said to be a prerequisite for cervical cancer in women. Men can carry the virus, but it's nearly harmless for them.

Some HPV facts from wikipedia:
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HPV is the most common sexual transmitted infection in the United States. In the United States approximately 20-million people are currently infected with HPV about 6.2 million Americans will get infected with genital HPV this year.

24.5% prevalence of HPV among females 14 to 19 years old
44.8% prevalence of HPV among females 20 to 24 years old
27.4% prevalence of HPV among females 25 to 29 years old
27.5% prevalence of HPV among females 30 to 39 years old
25.2% prevalence of HPV among females 40 to 49 years old
19.6% prevalence of HPV among females 50 to 59 years old

In the absence of Pap testing or treatment, about 1% of women with genital HPV infections will eventually go on to develop cervical cancer.

Women who have Pap testing or other cervical cancer screenings on a regular basis dramatically decrease their chances of developing cervical cancer.

A 2006 study of 82 college students suggests that condoms can be up to 70% effective for preventing genital HPV infection if used for every sexual encounter.
Here's my question. Am I required to disclose this information before having relations with another woman? I have a feeling that everyone's kneejerk reaction will be "yes", but please consider the following. There's a huge chance that the woman already has the virus, and if she doesn't already she'll probably get it in the future*. With a condom, she probably won't get it from me anyway. With pap testing, there's a very very low risk of cancer. And quite frankly, I feel that she won't know all the facts and will think it's a bigger deal than it actually is.

Thoughts?







*Genital HPV infection is very common, with estimates suggesting that more than 50% of women will become infected with one or more of the sexually transmitted HPV types at some point during adulthood.[7]

The American Social Health Association projections in 2006 were yet more pessimistic, predicting that about 75% of the reproductive population will have been infected with genital HPV infection in their lifetime.
Would YOU disclose that you're an HPV carrier? (please read the wiki facts first)
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03-29-2007 at 11:44 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:44 AM.
Quote from RugratsGalore :
I don't have to imagine child birth without medication. I've done it 4 times already. It's nothing. As a matter of fact, I did the last one on my living room floor without medical professionals. I found the kidney infection I had to be 1000 times worse than a natural child birth.
My wife would concur, she has stated several times that there are many pains worse than child birth, but I'm quite sure everyone is different.
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03-29-2007 at 11:46 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:46 AM.
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So you experience a little discomfort during childbirth Wink at least you have the option of being heavily medicated and can see it coming. Being kicked in the jimmy can come out of nowhere and that sudden flash of pain is instantly dehabiliting. I'm pretty sure that even during childbirth, my wife, numb from the waist down from drugs, could have the fortitude to hop her ass out of the stirrups and kick my ass if I started flirting with the nurses. On the other hand, it would take an act of God to get me out of the fetal position shortly after being racked.
I wasn't comparing it to getting kicked, I was comparing it to kidney stones, ya brattycakes!! And trust me, those medicines do not work for everyone. I tried to get epidurals, then never worked for me. Crying
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RugratsGalore
03-29-2007 at 11:47 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:47 AM.
I just want to add one more thing. It seems a lot of people like pointing the blame at the woman, but just remember, women don't get this from sitting on a toilet seat. It takes two to tango so both genders are equally responsible. However, it's the woman that receives the stigma associated with HPV.
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03-29-2007 at 11:47 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:47 AM.
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Do you think she'll ever be ready? laugh out loud
Scratchchin I'll have to get back to you on that one
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03-29-2007 at 11:48 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:48 AM.
I didn't have the luxury of choosing pain medication.... my daughter was born prematurely... barely made it to the hospital in time......
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Gray.
03-29-2007 at 11:49 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:49 AM.
Quote from RugratsGalore :
I've read some of the replies here but not all of them.

HPV can be serious. I know, I ended up with cervical cancer because of it.

When I found out I was pregnant with my last child, my pap came back abnormal. I have had to go for a pap every THREE months for the past FOUR year. I had a colposcopy every 3 months, even through my pregnancy. I had my daughter in Oct. 2003 and in Jan. 2005 it had advanced from dysplasia to cancer (very early stage.) I had a LEEP, which was HORRIBLE. The procedure itself wasn't painful to me. I was awake the entire time and had it done in my GYN's office. It was the lidocaine injected into my cervix before that did me in. It made my heart race SO bad I felt like I was having a heart attack. That sent me into a panic attack and caused me to hyperventilate.

I had some light cramping for a few days after but nothing major. For me, the worst part was the lidocaine injections before.

It has been almost 2.5 years since the LEEP and I still receive paps every 3 months. Thankfully, they've all been normal since I had the LEEP. But, I already dicussed with my GYN that if one ever comes back abnormal again I'm not messing around with another LEEP. It'll be a hysterectomy for me since I'm done having kids. BTW, it's definitely possible to get pregnant and carry a baby to term if you have HPV, I did. It's also possible to have cervical biopsies while pregnant, I did every 3 months for the entire 9 months. And, it's possible to have a baby after having a LEEP and happens quite often.

I would bet my bank account that there's A LOT more women on this board that have HPV that aren't willing to admit it or don't know they have it. I have never shown any signs of having HPV other than the abnormal cervical cells.

I have two daughters and they'll both receive the vaccination again HPV when they're old enough.

Lastly, HPV can hit anyone. I'm far from a slut. Shit, I haven't even had sex in well over a year. And for the record, since having my LEEP, my GYN tells me all the time how pretty my cervix looks Smilie So, there's nothing visible even there.

Oh, one more thing. I don't know if it's different depending on what doctor you see, but my GYN told me they don't even test for HPV unless you've had an abnormal pap. So, those of you that have said you know for sure you don't have it, you might want to make sure your GYN even tests for it routinely. It's my understanding a lot of doctor's don't test for HPV unless there's a reason to (abnormal pap.) And, you can still have HPV and have a normal pap, depending on how long you've had HPV.
hug Thanks for sharing your story.
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03-29-2007 at 11:51 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:51 AM.
Quote from RugratsGalore :
I don't have to imagine child birth without medication. I've done it 4 times already. It's nothing. As a matter of fact, I did the last one on my living room floor without medical professionals. I found the kidney infection I had to be 1000 times worse than a natural child birth.
Kidney infections will take you to your knees, I know this, I have them often enough Frown
It's also not fun to have a clamp placed on one's cervix while wide awake Bigeye Nono
Not sure the men here really understand the sheer number of medical procedure's women endure, in the name of healthiness and or sickness or disease EEK!
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RugratsGalore
03-29-2007 at 11:53 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:53 AM.
Quote from PassionateGray :
hug Thanks for sharing your story.
Of course, like you, it isn't easy sharing something like that hug But until people talk openly about it, the stigma will never go away. I guess for me it's easier because I don't care what people think of me. I know the kind of person I am and that's all that's important.

BUT, I'm a HUGE nag about women getting their yearly exams (and make sure your GYN tests for HPV.) Had I not gotten pregnant the last time, who knows what would have happened. It had been 4 years since my last pap before I got pregnant.

Exciting news (for me anyways lol) If my last pap I just had comes back normal, I get to graduate to paps every 6 months!!!!! I think I've paid my dues in stir-ups for a lifetime laugh out loud
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03-29-2007 at 11:54 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:54 AM.
Quote from RugratsGalore :
I just want to add one more thing. It seems a lot of people like pointing the blame at the woman, but just remember, women don't get this from sitting on a toilet seat. It takes two to tango so both genders are equally responsible. However, it's the woman that receives the stigma associated with HPV.
Eh? Guys experience no stigmatism from HPV?? How do you figure?

Women apparently have a test.... guys don't have a test unless they break out in warts.

I went to a Dr and asked to be tested even though I didn't have any signs... the doctor laughed and asked "why?"
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03-29-2007 at 11:55 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:55 AM.
Quote from Piccaboo :
Kidney infections will take you to your knees, I know this, I have them often enough Frown
It's also not fun to have a clamp placed on one's cervix while wide awake Bigeye Nono
Not sure the men here really understand the sheer number of medical procedure's women endure, in the name of healthiness and or sickness or disease EEK!
I know a lot of people have said that their colposcopies were painful. Mine never were. But, HOLY SMOKES, that LEEP made me feel like I was going to die right there. You know, not so many years ago they did the LEEP's while you were knocked out. I can now understand why. Lidocaine is EVIL laugh out loud
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03-29-2007 at 11:56 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:56 AM.
Quote from RugratsGalore :
I know a lot of people have said that their colposcopies were painful. Mine never were. But, HOLY SMOKES, that LEEP made me feel like I was going to die right there. You know, not so many years ago they did the LEEP's while you were knocked out. I can now understand why. Lidocaine is EVIL laugh out loud
My colposcopy was bad... I definitely felt him snipping into my cervix... and I had cramps for a day or so... but when they froze the spots off I couldn't hardly walk. I was in sooo much pain! I don't even want to know what LEEP is like.
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03-29-2007 at 11:56 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:56 AM.
Quote from Drio :
Eh? Guys experience no stigmatism from HPV?? How do you figure?

Women apparently have a test.... guys don't have a test unless they break out in warts.

I went to a Dr and asked to be tested even though I didn't have any signs... the doctor laughed and asked "why?"
Most men don't even give HPV a second thought unless they have symptoms. I bet a good majority of men don't even have a clue what HPV is or what it stands for. There's no test for males, which means they don't have a clue whether they have it or not.

You don't have to agree with my or my opinion, but that's what it is. An opinion.
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03-29-2007 at 11:59 AM.
03-29-2007 at 11:59 AM.
Quote from PassionateGray :
My colposcopy was bad... I definitely felt him snipping into my cervix... and I had cramps for a day or so... but when they froze the spots off I couldn't hardly walk. I was in sooo much pain! I don't even want to know what LEEP is like.
Like I said, the procedure itself (and even recovery) wasn't bad with the LEEP. But I'll NEVER forget what it was like having the Lidocaine injected (it didn't hurt but a side effect is your heart racing REALLY bad and mine did.) My heart was beating so hard (or so it seemed) that it was effecting my eye sight. Each time my heart beat, my eyes when funny and felt like they were beating, too, if that makes any sense.
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03-29-2007 at 12:01 PM.
03-29-2007 at 12:01 PM.
According to the website that slickchik gave us the link to:


At the moment, there is no test approved to detect HPV in men.
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03-29-2007 at 12:06 PM.
03-29-2007 at 12:06 PM.
Quote from schbusdrvr :
According to the website that slickchik gave us the link to:


At the moment, there is no test approved to detect HPV in men.

The most basic test is knowing you dipped your willie into a sump pump that already has HPV EEK!
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