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Am I required to disclose this information before having sex?
March 29, 2007 at
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My girlfriend was informed by her gynocologist that she has the human papillomavirus, or HPV. It's impossible to tell who had it first, but I'm most likely a carrier now as well. For those of you who don't know, HPV is a virus that's said to be a prerequisite for cervical cancer in women. Men can carry the virus, but it's nearly harmless for them.
Some HPV facts from wikipedia:
Here's my question. Am I required to disclose this information before having relations with another woman? I have a feeling that everyone's kneejerk reaction will be "yes", but please consider the following. There's a huge chance that the woman already has the virus, and if she doesn't already she'll probably get it in the future*. With a condom, she probably won't get it from me anyway. With pap testing, there's a very very low risk of cancer. And quite frankly, I feel that she won't know all the facts and will think it's a bigger deal than it actually is.
Thoughts?
*Genital HPV infection is very common, with estimates suggesting that more than 50% of women will become infected with one or more of the sexually transmitted HPV types at some point during adulthood.[7]
The American Social Health Association projections in 2006 were yet more pessimistic, predicting that about 75% of the reproductive population will have been infected with genital HPV infection in their lifetime.
Some HPV facts from wikipedia:
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HPV is the most common sexual transmitted infection in the United States. In the United States approximately 20-million people are currently infected with HPV about 6.2 million Americans will get infected with genital HPV this year.24.5% prevalence of HPV among females 14 to 19 years old 44.8% prevalence of HPV among females 20 to 24 years old 27.4% prevalence of HPV among females 25 to 29 years old 27.5% prevalence of HPV among females 30 to 39 years old 25.2% prevalence of HPV among females 40 to 49 years old 19.6% prevalence of HPV among females 50 to 59 years old In the absence of Pap testing or treatment, about 1% of women with genital HPV infections will eventually go on to develop cervical cancer. Women who have Pap testing or other cervical cancer screenings on a regular basis dramatically decrease their chances of developing cervical cancer. A 2006 study of 82 college students suggests that condoms can be up to 70% effective for preventing genital HPV infection if used for every sexual encounter. |
Thoughts?
*Genital HPV infection is very common, with estimates suggesting that more than 50% of women will become infected with one or more of the sexually transmitted HPV types at some point during adulthood.[7]
The American Social Health Association projections in 2006 were yet more pessimistic, predicting that about 75% of the reproductive population will have been infected with genital HPV infection in their lifetime.
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I'm wayyyy older than you, and I've never been diagnosed with this, yet I know people who have been. One in particular was married, and her husband brought it home to her; she was faithful throughout the marriage; he was not; there was no other way she would have contracted it.
Women just don't pick this up indiscriminately from touching objects, here and there; it comes from sexual encounters, where the male is infected, if the female knows for sure she was not prior to the sexual encounter; take my example above for instance.
Tell me you weren't serious about that last part of your statement
STD's have seriously changed sexual encounters throughout the last couple of decades; unfortunately for young people; many still do not use condoms, nor are condoms necessarily 100% fool proof when it comes to STD's. There is always that skin-to-skin contact, and physical contact that comes into play well before a condom is ever put on that hard wood, remember that!
However I think to be born with it, I'm sure that the mother would have had to have it earlier...
I just get the feeling that he needs to always be right about everything and if he disagrees with you (or misunderstands you and thus thinks that he disagrees with you) then you become the object of his sarcasm and bad attitude.
Anyways, this is all I'm going to say about the subject. I'm done talking to him and about him after this post and I might end up ignoring him if he doesn't realize that just because a person words something differently than he'd like doesn't mean they're wrong. In this case, I am actually agreeing with everyone on the board, yet he still wants to pick a fight and try to belittle me because he doesn't take the time to understand what I am truly getting at.
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I am not making light of cervical cancer, scorpio.
All I am saying is that if you actually take care and get your pap done and be wise about things then HPV is EASILY TREATABLE. It is not CURABLE, but if you have it like I do and you do the right things, then you can still have a normal life... you can still have kids... you can still have a sex life. If you treat the HPV then it won't become cervical cancer! This thread is primarily about HPV, right? So God forbid that's what I was talking about!
Now for your ridiculous post ridiculing me for being upset about my nephrologist appointment but not being concerned about my own encounter with HPV, let me educate you on some stats:
There were 82,588 deaths in all patients undergoing End Stage Renal Disease treatment [in 2003].
http://kidney.niddk.ni
According to the U.S. Cancer Statistics: 2003 Incidence and Mortality report, 11,820 women were diagnosed with cervical cancer in 2003, and 3,919 women died from the disease that same year.
http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/cervical/statistics/
Even the estimated mortality count for 2007 is considerably lower than those who were in End Stage Renal Disease in 2003 alone!
About 3,670 women will die from cervical cancer in the United States during 2007.
http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI...ncer_8.as
So now am I justified for being more frightened about kidney disease than the potential for cervical cancer (which, by the way, has already been taken care of and I am being treated for it!)?
That's the last post I'm making that is in reply to you, Scorpio. I don't care to fight with you anymore. It's pointless.
Oh wait, n/m... I just realized there would be no use for it.....................
That being said, let me reiterate again, I HAVE IT. I LIVE IT. And my life is NORMAL.
Here's why:
1. I went to my regular paps, like every woman should be doing.
2. When my pap came back abnormal, I had a biopsy.
3. Then, when they were determined to be precancerous, I had them removed.
4. I am continuing to get paps every 3 months.
That being said, because I am taking all the precautionary steps that EVERYONE should be taking, I AM LIVING A NORMAL LIFE.
How freaking hard is that to understand?
And since I'm living it, don't you think that I would know more than some arrogant male who comes in here claiming to know everything about the disease that I have and live with?
I have had worse things in my life that were less treatable and caused much more pain than HPV and even the precancerous cells.
My mother, my sister, and other women here are still having normal sex lives and still have the ability to have children. Is that not a normal life?
If your argument now turns into... "well now they have to go to the gyno more"... then I guess they needed to do that anyways.
And let me reiterate another thing:
1. I said that he should tell.
2. I said that women should get the vaccine.
3. I said that women should take the necessary precautions such as condoms or abstinence.
You really are beyond anyone that I have ever met before.
That being said, let me reiterate again, I HAVE IT. I LIVE IT. And my life is NORMAL.
Here's why:
1. I went to my regular paps, like every woman should be doing.
2. When my pap came back abnormal, I had a biopsy.
3. Then, when they were determined to be precancerous, I had them removed.
4. I am continuing to get paps every 3 months.
That being said, because I am taking all the precautionary steps that EVERYONE should be taking, I AM LIVING A NORMAL LIFE.
How freaking hard is that to understand?
And since I'm living it, don't you think that I would know more than some arrogant male who comes in here claiming to know everything about the disease that I have and live with?
I have had worse things in my life that were less treatable and caused much more pain than HPV and even the precancerous cells.
My mother, my sister, and other women here are still having normal sex lives and still have the ability to have children. Is that not a normal life?
If your argument now turns into... "well now they have to go to the gyno more"... then I guess they needed to do that anyways.
And let me reiterate another thing:
1. I said that he should tell.
2. I said that women should get the vaccine.
3. I said that women should take the necessary precautions such as condoms or abstinence.
You really are beyond anyone that I have ever met before.
Could have just told me to take care of you "lightwork"... Didn't need to type all that.
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It seems like there is a lot in this thread. I am surprised it has gotten as heated as it has. For all of you ladies who have gone through cervical cancer (((((((((((((big warm hug)))))))))))) Sometimes the boards are a hard place to bring out these types of discussions, because we can't hear tone, or get quick understanding when someone speaks in a confusing way.
It seems like there is a lot in this thread. I am surprised it has gotten as heated as it has. For all of you ladies who have gone through cervical cancer (((((((((((((big warm hug)))))))))))) Sometimes the boards are a hard place to bring out these types of discussions, because we can't hear tone, or get quick understanding when someone speaks in a confusing way.
I am so so sorry you were hurt ((((((((((((big hug))))))))))))))) Sorry for making any presumptions my friend.
Both ways? I'll bet it can be passed from male to female that way, but not vice versa. And, no, there's no personal reason I ask this question in case anyone was wondering.
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