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In a business setting, upon encountering women with aggressive cleavage, where is the proper place to fix one's gaze in order to maintain a professional demeanor?
September 26, 2012 at
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Further: how does a person accomplish such a thing without being obvious about the avoidance?
In my new position I'm regularly sent into the offices of high-profile clients. We're talking about lobbying firms with partners who rub elbows with Congressmen; communications firms that brief Obama's cabinet and captains of industry on how to behave on camera; lawyers who spend a lot of time at the Supreme Court... you get the idea.
A shocking percentage of these offices are very old-fashioned about how the partners are coddled and cared-for: they basically have a bevy of young, attractive assistants who do everything from reading the partners their email to picking out bottles of scotch for Senator so-and-so.
I spend a lot of time with these young ladies since they are always the ones who have to figure out computer/Blackberry/printer/television/motorized tie rack problems for the partners. Every last one of them dresses provocatively. I don't think they're doing it entirely on purpose (and certainly not solely for my benefit), but there is still cleavage left, right, and center all damn day long.
I feel like they can tell I'm making a conscious effort to look them in the eye when we talk. And I'm not even pretending like that's an easy thing to do. Most of the time if I can remember 5% of what they were going on about, I'm doing well. I try very hard to get them to show me what they were doing on the computer/iPhone/copier/toaster oven so I can at least pretend to focus on the problem. The worst is when they want me to look over their shoulder at Mr. Namesonthedoor's new Galaxy SIII that won't sync... right behind that is when I have to face them over a low cubicle wall or divider.
In my head I'm thinking dontlookdownhershirt dontlookdownhershirt youllgetfiredsofastyourheadllspin forgodssakesdontlookdownherfarkingshirt so hard I'm sure these girls can hear it. Staring them right in the eyes doesn't help much when my--not peripheral, since it's usually more of a downward direction, what do you call that?--field of vision includes the jigglies. What the hell am I supposed to do?
tl;dr: bewbs!
In my new position I'm regularly sent into the offices of high-profile clients. We're talking about lobbying firms with partners who rub elbows with Congressmen; communications firms that brief Obama's cabinet and captains of industry on how to behave on camera; lawyers who spend a lot of time at the Supreme Court... you get the idea.
A shocking percentage of these offices are very old-fashioned about how the partners are coddled and cared-for: they basically have a bevy of young, attractive assistants who do everything from reading the partners their email to picking out bottles of scotch for Senator so-and-so.
I spend a lot of time with these young ladies since they are always the ones who have to figure out computer/Blackberry/printer/television/motorized tie rack problems for the partners. Every last one of them dresses provocatively. I don't think they're doing it entirely on purpose (and certainly not solely for my benefit), but there is still cleavage left, right, and center all damn day long.
I feel like they can tell I'm making a conscious effort to look them in the eye when we talk. And I'm not even pretending like that's an easy thing to do. Most of the time if I can remember 5% of what they were going on about, I'm doing well. I try very hard to get them to show me what they were doing on the computer/iPhone/copier/toaster oven so I can at least pretend to focus on the problem. The worst is when they want me to look over their shoulder at Mr. Namesonthedoor's new Galaxy SIII that won't sync... right behind that is when I have to face them over a low cubicle wall or divider.
In my head I'm thinking dontlookdownhershirt dontlookdownhershirt youllgetfiredsofastyourheadllspin forgodssakesdontlookdownherfarkingshirt so hard I'm sure these girls can hear it. Staring them right in the eyes doesn't help much when my--not peripheral, since it's usually more of a downward direction, what do you call that?--field of vision includes the jigglies. What the hell am I supposed to do?
tl;dr: bewbs!
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That angle.
As interesting and exotic as that sounded, it wasn't that exciting
We were actually counting giant rolls of paper made of different thickness of stock
used on printing presses. Imagine the rolls to be big enough that a special forklift
was built just to pick these up and put them on spindles for the presses they ran through.
We crawled over and over these gigantic rolls, to ensure inventory was correct
in the warehouse twice a year.
I'll bet 98% of the people here have used one of their products for the Company I worked for
at one time or another in their life time.
That angle.
We were actually counting giant rolls of paper made of different thickness of stock
used on printing presses. Imagine the rolls to be big enough that a special forklift
was built just to pick these up and put them on spindles for the presses they ran through.
We crawled over and over these gigantic rolls, to ensure inventory was correct
in the warehouse twice a year.
I'll bet 98% of the people here have used one of their products for the Company I worked for
at one time or another in their life time.
Beep !!! Wrong !!!
Think of anther major paper Company that makes all sorts of paper supplies, that
also a long time ago made the six pack carriers for beer and soda, before plastic rings
came out. Then they switched over to making the cardboard carriers for things like
Applesauce, Jello, Pudding Snacks and things like that; when the plastic rings came out.
Think of anther major paper Company that makes all sorts of paper supplies, that
also a long time ago made the six pack carriers for beer and soda, before plastic rings
came out. Then they switched over to making the cardboard carriers for things like
Applesauce, Jello, Pudding Snacks and things like that; when the plastic rings came out.
Beep !!! Wrong again !!!
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Bejebus they had bottling plants in VA for gawd's sake, we serviced them down there, we did the entire East Coast from our Plant location where we were
False. You sold purses for the mafia and your real name is Nancy Jones.
False. You sold purses for the mafia and your real name is Nancy Jones.
Shades like Men In Black -
If that's too difficult, look at her eyes.
If that's too difficult, just focus on her face or some part of her face.
The more you think about whether or not she can tell, the more obvious it will become to her. If you aren't thinking about it so much the entire time you're in her presence, she'll be less likely to notice your discomfort.
You need to act like you're comfortable. You need to act like it's easier for you than it actually is.
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That angle.