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Let me reintroduce, the VS Social Thread!
Since the Social Threads seem to have been done away with, this is the new home of the VS Social Thread. We talk about everything from VS to Express to Beauty to Coupons to Hot Deals...and of course, our personal lives.
Roll call! Let's get back to what we do!
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Also, I did my Mr. Big a pretty big favor over the last few weeks. I basically redid one of his research papers using math that made sense. It was accepted to a top journal in his field without modification (unheard of). He's taking me to dinner at a ridiculously nice place on Monday to say thank you. I want to look nice...but not like an escort. It's also a Monday night and freaking cold in MN, so again, I don't want to look like an escort...
1). I have the colorblock sweater dress in Pink and Green. I was thinking about wearing that. Think that's a good decision?
2). I also have the ruched stretch lace dress which is ridiculously hot on me but low cut and short...perhaps I could pair it with a cardigan of some kind that is a color?
3). My third choice is the black lace yoke elastic waist dress, which I would also have to likely pair with a sweater.
He told me he's wearing a suit and tie...
Thoughts? I'd like to look hot but not ridiculous
Does this mean we aren't serious about our ban on them?
2) lace peplum top xs (39.90) and teal herringbone skirt in 2. I think I like the fit of the 2 better. It's more professional since it's not as tight.
3) striped peplum top xs - this top makes me look so busty!
I feel like they never have a sale when I want something-only when I don't
Definitely smart to go earlier to gg. Much smoother n faster shopping experience, ESP if you have returns
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Didn't even notice they had a new collection at Target. I'll probably go to Target and try them on.
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In my experience, I feel that guys always pick on girls. I'm just thinking here to group gatherings/friends/social situations. I hang out with a lot of guys and even in college, I was pretty much the only girl in the group, so I got used to it because that's just how guys are. To some degree, I don't think it's done intentionally. I think guys do it to get a reaction out of the girls.
For example, DBF and his friends LOOOOOOOOOVE to poke fun at one of my (girl) friends who hates Hello Kitty. Almost every week and every time they see her, there is some Hello Kitty reference or gift. She gets sooo infuriated like the world is about to end. But in reality I asked why DBF does it - he said it's because they can and because my friend gets incredibly pissed and they want to see that reaction and make fun of her. Even though they are kidding. They know they can get away with it and will just keep on doing it. Believe me, she knows this, but she keeps putting herself in these situations. Maybe some girls like the kind of "attention" they are getting.
However, I understand how you feel. It's quite shocking and hurtful for something like that to come in a situation after being a "dump all" for the department.
It was more a situational thing for me - I'm so unbelievably frustrated with where things are going and how they are happening that the comment pushed me over the edge mentally even though it wasn't something that would have normally upset me. I know men like to mess with women and get a rise out of them, but this guy really is an arrogant jacktard all the time.
Sigh. I think I need a vacation!!!
On another note, I would totally be the person to wrap your friends gifts in HK paper just to irk them haha!
is this the same that was with $75 purchase just a week or two ago?
oh speaking of VS, i got some bathing suit pieces -- the cancun blue of the very sexy line is the same color as cancun blue of the forever sexy line, but the material is different!
however, with the background that you've given, it's quite possible that he did not mean it in a lighthearted sarcastic way but rather in a more demeaning way towards women. i think this is something where "you had to be there".
either way, it sounds like your workplace is horrible to women. i would hate that.
:w oot2: awesome!
it is unacceptable for them to offer it as a discount. i'm glad you got a refund. that's all i would accept for that mistake.
i ordered some dvd's from wb for some tv shows and they forgot to pack 1 of them. i had to call about it and i was so worried that they would not believe me because how can i prove that i only received 4 boxes when i should have gotten 5? luckily they didn't give me any trouble. i see their side, but it's unfair for them to be suspicious of you just bc you've had other things go wrong before. they should really consider how much you order and what their failure rate %-wise is.
We had this meeting where he cut my overtime pay in half (from a 2 hour minimum to a 1 hour) in front of the whole department without talking to me. He then starting giving myself and my coworker (who I am tasked to train) completely different job assignments then what he and I discussed prior to her employment. He then tried to assign us a new program and paperwork and I put my foot down and told him there was no way with her not even being trained yet that we could take on any more. He said OK and that he understood.
Come the next day, he called her in his office alone with his assistant and assigned her the work anyhow. I'm so far beyond annoyed.
Sorry for the ranting in here - sometimes I feel like you ladies are my only source of sanity lol!! I guess what it boils down to is a bunch of idiots who shouldn't be in management and are afraid of confrontation with women, but want to shove all their extra work on us. It's insane. I hate watching everyone who makes the jokes about us dump their work on us at 4 PM on Friday and walk out the door while I am stuck working all weekend due to their piss poor planning.
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It looks like we're going to be all over the place with our answers on this one. :te ehee: First of all,
On your reaction - that's the hard part. We know that we're constantly fighting to prove ourselves worthy of the same jobs, the same pay as men - that we earned our positions and are capable of the job... so we carry this burden with us. We have a lot going on in our heads in any particular time and I think too quickly they forget the history here. If you react angrily, then you're seen as "lashing out", "upset" or worse yet, "emotional" which feeds into the stereotype (cue menstrual jokes here) and in the future, if they are asked about what they think about your potential for advancement - in their eyes it could prove you unsuitable for the promotion into the male-dominated jobs. In this case, I may have responded with a joke in kind that let him know you would not be ordering any sandwiches unless they were of the knuckle variety: Tension broken, crappyness of situation acknowledged, future lunch orders rebuffed. In my head, the sexist part would have been, "why don't you get home and make me a sandwich" - it's that extra step to the stereotype (barefoot-pregnant-kitchen) that he didn't take.
It's such a balancing act - when is it too much? I grew up with brothers and my field is dominated by men, granted, not the chauvinistic type - the quiet nerdy ones that note to themselves "Oh, I think that one might have a vagina!" , which shapes how they deal with us too :fa cepalm: . If we'd get new equipment in and they tried to hand off the pink gloves or pipettemans to me, I'd throw a fit- but I realized it wasn't about me, it was about them. They're the ones so busy trying to reassure themselves and the other guys they pass male muster, I have no doubt they'd have a pooh throwing contest if they thought that would settle it within the male pack. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I get the general feeling that they're just a lot simpler than we give them credit for. Not that they are incapable of deep thoughts, but that they don't have them with quick-day-to-day interactions.... just doesn't cross their mind so those kind of comments are more of the thoughtless/careless variety.
The quote I bolded is how they definitely saw me - I don't hold my tongue and I do have a little temper. I am just so annoyed for so many of the reasons I touched on in the response to nerdicus. I don't try to be one of the guys, I just try to be respected. It's so frustrating when I've watched my career crumble because this manager is a wimp.
When I started, I was hired as an assistant to a logistics manager. The ultimate goal was when he left the department, I would take over and we would grow under me. It was all on track until my manager actually left the department. They tasked me to interview and hire the other person in the department, tasked me with training her - only to inform me as soon as she was hired that she is my equal. OK, I was pissed but can deal with it. Then, to task me with training her and getting things in order and when I state that we can not take on any other stuff to keep giving it to her behind my back - what a wimp! Gah. I know I've gone off the topic of just the guy making a comment - but this is the backstory. I'm frustrated, over tasked and being held accountable for the actions of my "equal" who I am not given the ability to train properly because they are working me to death. I think my 6 month plan will end with a job change, if not internally - externally!
I appreciate your response and feedback - it is so hard to be a woman that aspires to move than what they are giving me and after proving myself over and over is shoved into a crappy role with a manager who couldn't care less about me or my well being or sanity.
that lace y-back top is oos online already. hopefully alvs got the last 1.
I like both the peplums on you! The stripe one looks different on you than the website. I think it looks better on you. I tried the zip-back skirt but decided that I didn't want to sit on a zipper. It was very tempting. It also comes in herringbone.
And about the Jason Wu dress.. do you have it? I know you said you missed out, JW because in a strange turn of events, I actually have that dress, in white, in either a 4or 6. I'd have to go look & I don't remember what size you are. But it's still got tags and everything.
The problem is, they *know* I'm not close to them and that I disapprove of their life philosophies, especially concerning my mother. So in return, they attempt to absolutely smother me with attention & "affection" (usually disguised as money) to buy my love. They repeatedly offer to do outrageous things like buy me a car, but I always decline beause I don't want to owe them anything (not in the monetary sense, but I would always be indebted to them).
I know that's a really long back story, sorry.. the problem I'm having is that they have a "family" lunch every Sunday. I got out of it while I was away & in college, but now they are continually badgering me about coming. It has gotten to the point where they show up at my work to put me on the spot, in person. They know I'm single, that my work is closed Sundays... so they know I have no excuse to not go. It's hard to be like "Well, I have laundry to do, so I can't spare a few hours" or "I was really planning on just kicking back and being lazy." How do I say NO, especially when they put me on the spot in front of other people??
The problem is, they *know* I'm not close to them and that I disapprove of their life philosophies, especially concerning my mother. So in return, they attempt to absolutely smother me with attention & "affection" (usually disguised as money) to buy my love. They repeatedly offer to do outrageous things like buy me a car, but I always decline beause I don't want to owe them anything (not in the monetary sense, but I would always be indebted to them).
I know that's a really long back story, sorry.. the problem I'm having is that they have a "family" lunch every Sunday. I got out of it while I was away & in college, but now they are continually badgering me about coming. It has gotten to the point where they show up at my work to put me on the spot, in person. They know I'm single, that my work is closed Sundays... so they know I have no excuse to not go. It's hard to be like "Well, I have laundry to do, so I can't spare a few hours" or "I was really planning on just kicking back and being lazy." How do I say NO, especially when they put me on the spot in front of other people??
Perhaps you could also just tell them no. If they ask why, just tell them you are busy or even that you just don't want to go. Sometimes honesty is the best policy - I know I wasn't much help but I hope you get a resolution soon. Good luck.
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I think it's good you have a plan to get away from that company. Some guys are just like that. I wish I could tell you to put something in his food but that would probably get you in trouble