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Since the Social Threads seem to have been done away with, this is the new home of the VS Social Thread. We talk about everything from VS to Express to Beauty to Coupons to Hot Deals...and of course, our personal lives.

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02-10-2013 at 05:16 AM.
02-10-2013 at 05:16 AM.
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Darn. I tried on that long sleeved tucked front dress again. Turns out I do still hate it. Too bad. It's so pretty. I really wanted it to work. Return.

Also, I did my Mr. Big a pretty big favor over the last few weeks. I basically redid one of his research papers using math that made sense. It was accepted to a top journal in his field without modification (unheard of). He's taking me to dinner at a ridiculously nice place on Monday to say thank you. I want to look nice...but not like an escort. It's also a Monday night and freaking cold in MN, so again, I don't want to look like an escort...

1). I have the colorblock sweater dress in Pink and Green. I was thinking about wearing that. Think that's a good decision?
2). I also have the ruched stretch lace dress which is ridiculously hot on me but low cut and short...perhaps I could pair it with a cardigan of some kind that is a color?
3). My third choice is the black lace yoke elastic waist dress, which I would also have to likely pair with a sweater.

He told me he's wearing a suit and tie...

Thoughts? I'd like to look hot but not ridiculous
2 is hot and 3 is romantic. i agree with porda about the sweaterdress being too casual.

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I saw a bag n top I want too. They need to do 40% off everything soon!
Does this mean we aren't serious about our ban on them? Stick Out Tongue
I wish I could be stronger Teehee. They have great prices so that draws me back.
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02-10-2013 at 05:18 AM.
02-10-2013 at 05:18 AM.
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Not sure about this sweater. What do you all think? It's the marled cocoon sweater. This is in s (I got a blue one in xs but I think the bigger one covers my bum better).
i like it. i have a few sweaters like that. love the look plus it's comfortable.

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1) 69.90 jacket, black, 2
2) lace peplum top xs (39.90) and teal herringbone skirt in 2. I think I like the fit of the 2 better. It's more professional since it's not as tight.
3) striped peplum top xs - this top makes me look so busty!
both peplum tops are amazing! i want to try the striped. horizontal stripes make you appear bigger Whee.
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02-10-2013 at 05:23 AM.
02-10-2013 at 05:23 AM.
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I like the white! Saw it hanging there today drool they have some cuter accessory bag n clutches this season. The mailer says it isn't combineable with other storewide promos-wonder if they are referring to any sale or just the % off entire sore?
I feel like they never have a sale when I want something-only when I don't Frown

Definitely smart to go earlier to gg. Much smoother n faster shopping experience, ESP if you have returns Wink
you can use them online with any sale as long as it doesn't require a promo code. idk about the stores. i don't shop much since they started putting that vague term in the coupon.
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02-10-2013 at 06:34 AM.
02-10-2013 at 06:34 AM.
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02-10-2013 at 06:37 AM.
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idk if that will be the src code but normally codes say that right before they go active. i was just playing Teehee.
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02-10-2013 at 06:55 AM.
02-10-2013 at 06:55 AM.
there's a john frieda flyaway tamer [amazon.com] for $1.17. from fp.
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02-10-2013 at 07:09 AM.
02-10-2013 at 07:09 AM.
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I ordered two Prabal Gurung For Target dresses. Mostly because I missed out on the Jason Wu for Target dress that is my pic of the moment. Hopefully, I only love one of them. Anyone else purchasing from the collection?

Didn't even notice they had a new collection at Target. I'll probably go to Target and try them on.
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02-10-2013 at 07:18 AM.
02-10-2013 at 07:18 AM.
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there's a john frieda flyaway tamer [amazon.com] for $1.17. from fp.
Thanks!

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Didn't even notice they had a new collection at Target. I'll probably go to Target and try them on.
Me either. Some of it looks cute online!
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02-10-2013 at 07:23 AM.
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Speaking of target, my debit card came in yday! Thanks for the suggestions ladies! Now I can get fs from target!
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02-10-2013 at 07:46 AM.
02-10-2013 at 07:46 AM.
Nerdi- I'm not sure if it's exactly the same one, but I returned a cocoon sweater even though it was a good price after sale and coupon. I am not opposed to the cocoon shape, but I just didn't like that particular one. Maybe I'm not drawn in to thicker sweaters anymore.
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02-10-2013 at 08:02 AM.
02-10-2013 at 08:02 AM.
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I think comments like that are almost expected in any work place actually. Where I used to work, guys would always joke on the girls. It's just how it is. I've been the butt of jokes at work as well. It may not be job related, but I think it has to do with the upbringing and the culture of who that particular male is.

In my experience, I feel that guys always pick on girls. I'm just thinking here to group gatherings/friends/social situations. I hang out with a lot of guys and even in college, I was pretty much the only girl in the group, so I got used to it because that's just how guys are. To some degree, I don't think it's done intentionally. I think guys do it to get a reaction out of the girls.

For example, DBF and his friends LOOOOOOOOOVE to poke fun at one of my (girl) friends who hates Hello Kitty. Almost every week and every time they see her, there is some Hello Kitty reference or gift. She gets sooo infuriated like the world is about to end. But in reality I asked why DBF does it - he said it's because they can and because my friend gets incredibly pissed and they want to see that reaction and make fun of her. Even though they are kidding. They know they can get away with it and will just keep on doing it. Believe me, she knows this, but she keeps putting herself in these situations. Maybe some girls like the kind of "attention" they are getting.

However, I understand how you feel. It's quite shocking and hurtful for something like that to come in a situation after being a "dump all" for the department. hug Please don't take it to heart and just ignore it. The more reaction you give them, the more buttons they know to push. Remember - they are trying to get a laugh out of your expense. It's just how guys are. Just roll with the punches. Your coworker shoulda asked for more money to "buy the lunch" and pocketed it playfully and told the guy to buy his own lunch. :l ol:
I guess one of the things that makes it so difficult is that this is the oilfield. Women aren't really respected period. It's totally not a case of a woman whining because she doesn't feel she is being treated fairly just because - I have spent almost four years doing all the scheduling and I even had to help train the new guys they brought in, just to turn around and make me the one who cleans up their messes. Our management is horrible - the guys never do ANYTHING wrong while I sit there and tidy everything up behind the scenes and then get so much thrown on my plate - I get in trouble when things get messed up because I didn't catch their mistakes.

It was more a situational thing for me - I'm so unbelievably frustrated with where things are going and how they are happening that the comment pushed me over the edge mentally even though it wasn't something that would have normally upset me. I know men like to mess with women and get a rise out of them, but this guy really is an arrogant jacktard all the time.

Sigh. I think I need a vacation!!!

On another note, I would totally be the person to wrap your friends gifts in HK paper just to irk them haha!
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it's true. i've gotten responses basically saying "anything that you need done you will have to speak to someone on the phone for - we have no authority to do anything here at email support".

is this the same that was with $75 purchase just a week or two ago?

oh speaking of VS, i got some bathing suit pieces -- the cancun blue of the very sexy line is the same color as cancun blue of the forever sexy line, but the material is different! EEK! i was very annoyed, bc i got a top from forever sexy and bottom from very sexy and they don't match perfectly even tho the color/color code are the same. :sadw alk:

hug that remark alone does not seem awful to me. taken out of the context of what this person said to you years ago, it sounds like he was just commenting on the meeting and how messed up management's decision to dump things on you guys is. i can see it as a sarcastic remark to what has become of your position.

however, with the background that you've given, it's quite possible that he did not mean it in a lighthearted sarcastic way but rather in a more demeaning way towards women. i think this is something where "you had to be there".

either way, it sounds like your workplace is horrible to women. i would hate that.

:w oot2: awesome!

it is unacceptable for them to offer it as a discount. i'm glad you got a refund. that's all i would accept for that mistake.

i ordered some dvd's from wb for some tv shows and they forgot to pack 1 of them. i had to call about it and i was so worried that they would not believe me because how can i prove that i only received 4 boxes when i should have gotten 5? luckily they didn't give me any trouble. i see their side, but it's unfair for them to be suspicious of you just bc you've had other things go wrong before. they should really consider how much you order and what their failure rate %-wise is.
Yeah - the company is just overall not good to women. We make half of what the men do while we were in the same positions. It's crappy and now the manager I report to is a huy who believes women are just secretaries and assistants. I developed the database and handling systems to run the personnel department at work, I streamlined all medical requirements and procedures for overseas travel, I tracked 2+ years worth of job, training and location history and finally got people in order. Then, our new GM felt that the coordinators should be responsible for their personnel (which they should) and gave that back to them and left me more to the logistics end of things which is my actual job. Now, the supervisor seems to think that since he is over me now I am supposed to take the overflow from his assistant.

We had this meeting where he cut my overtime pay in half (from a 2 hour minimum to a 1 hour) in front of the whole department without talking to me. He then starting giving myself and my coworker (who I am tasked to train) completely different job assignments then what he and I discussed prior to her employment. He then tried to assign us a new program and paperwork and I put my foot down and told him there was no way with her not even being trained yet that we could take on any more. He said OK and that he understood.

Come the next day, he called her in his office alone with his assistant and assigned her the work anyhow. I'm so far beyond annoyed.

Sorry for the ranting in here - sometimes I feel like you ladies are my only source of sanity lol!! I guess what it boils down to is a bunch of idiots who shouldn't be in management and are afraid of confrontation with women, but want to shove all their extra work on us. It's insane. I hate watching everyone who makes the jokes about us dump their work on us at 4 PM on Friday and walk out the door while I am stuck working all weekend due to their piss poor planning.
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It's just boys being pigs. I know it sucks when they act like that. If you feel like they treat women unfairly, I'd look at another company.


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I probably will be looking for something else - I have a good 6 month plan going that makes it tolerable. As long as you have a plan it makes things temporary and more tolerable.
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Warning: Novel Ahead. Also, JMO :blo wkiss:

It looks like we're going to be all over the place with our answers on this one. :te ehee: First of all, hug kudos to you for working thru the male intimidation factor. We are strong women, but we never know what we'll encounter anywhere- right? Second, I'm going to err on the side of him actually commiserating with you guys...and that the joke could be to relieve the tension, acknowledge the change and take the temperature of the dept. they depend on. If that's the case, that takes balls. Had he thought about it about it more, he may have wanted to wait a day for the anger to die down a little. People know to keep their support staff (if that's the appropriate term for your dept) happy, and that when they're not happy no one's happy. The joke acknowledges the new situation you find yourselves in, while testing the waters. I'd put my money on the other dudes saying, "Whoooa damn, those gals are going to be piiiiiiissed... You couldn't pay me to ask for X, Y,Z right now - I'll book my own trip, heck I'll even pay OOP just to steer clear!"

On your reaction - that's the hard part. We know that we're constantly fighting to prove ourselves worthy of the same jobs, the same pay as men - that we earned our positions and are capable of the job... so we carry this burden with us. We have a lot going on in our heads in any particular time and I think too quickly they forget the history here. If you react angrily, then you're seen as "lashing out", "upset" or worse yet, "emotional" which feeds into the stereotype (cue menstrual jokes here) and in the future, if they are asked about what they think about your potential for advancement - in their eyes it could prove you unsuitable for the promotion into the male-dominated jobs. In this case, I may have responded with a joke in kind that let him know you would not be ordering any sandwiches unless they were of the knuckle variety: Tension broken, crappyness of situation acknowledged, future lunch orders rebuffed. In my head, the sexist part would have been, "why don't you get home and make me a sandwich" - it's that extra step to the stereotype (barefoot-pregnant-kitchen) that he didn't take.

It's such a balancing act - when is it too much? I grew up with brothers and my field is dominated by men, granted, not the chauvinistic type - the quiet nerdy ones that note to themselves "Oh, I think that one might have a vagina!" , which shapes how they deal with us too :fa cepalm: . If we'd get new equipment in and they tried to hand off the pink gloves or pipettemans to me, I'd throw a fit- but I realized it wasn't about me, it was about them. They're the ones so busy trying to reassure themselves and the other guys they pass male muster, I have no doubt they'd have a pooh throwing contest if they thought that would settle it within the male pack. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I get the general feeling that they're just a lot simpler than we give them credit for. Not that they are incapable of deep thoughts, but that they don't have them with quick-day-to-day interactions.... just doesn't cross their mind so those kind of comments are more of the thoughtless/careless variety.
My manager has told me to my face he finds me difficult to deal with and talk to because he can't handle women and has no idea how to handle women who are "emotional". I effing hate that label. Don't piss me off and I won't get emotional laugh out loud Instead he avoids me and any and all confrontation or discussions we need to have. I told him he is unapproachable - he scheduled a bi-weekly meeting to help us ease into a working relationship. We had one meeting and he told me we don't need it anymore and cancelled the remainder in favor of department meetings. Facepalm

The quote I bolded is how they definitely saw me - I don't hold my tongue and I do have a little temper. I am just so annoyed for so many of the reasons I touched on in the response to nerdicus. I don't try to be one of the guys, I just try to be respected. It's so frustrating when I've watched my career crumble because this manager is a wimp.

When I started, I was hired as an assistant to a logistics manager. The ultimate goal was when he left the department, I would take over and we would grow under me. It was all on track until my manager actually left the department. They tasked me to interview and hire the other person in the department, tasked me with training her - only to inform me as soon as she was hired that she is my equal. OK, I was pissed but can deal with it. Then, to task me with training her and getting things in order and when I state that we can not take on any other stuff to keep giving it to her behind my back - what a wimp! Gah. I know I've gone off the topic of just the guy making a comment - but this is the backstory. I'm frustrated, over tasked and being held accountable for the actions of my "equal" who I am not given the ability to train properly because they are working me to death. I think my 6 month plan will end with a job change, if not internally - externally!

I appreciate your response and feedback - it is so hard to be a woman that aspires to move than what they are giving me and after proving myself over and over is shoved into a crappy role with a manager who couldn't care less about me or my well being or sanity.

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I think a lot of it depends on the relationship between the people. Some people can call me a biotch, and I wouldn't care, but if the right person called me that I may want to go all Alabama backwoods on their arse.
This made me laugh out loud
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i'm horrible with jewelry. someone tell me what to get and what to wear it with! :l ol:

that lace y-back top is oos online already. hopefully alvs got the last 1.
I need help too!!!
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The cardi - the plus side is that it makes you look tiny, but I think it's probably too big for you - the sleeves have a bit of room in them and there's an extra fold in the side that doesn't look like it's supposed to be part of the drape. I know the allure of comfy things to wrap up in :gir ly:


I like both the peplums on you! The stripe one looks different on you than the website. I think it looks better on you. I tried the zip-back skirt but decided that I didn't want to sit on a zipper. It was very tempting. It also comes in herringbone.
I can't do any drapey cardis Frown I'm too busty and they make me look so wide up top!
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Speaking of target, my debit card came in yday! Thanks for the suggestions ladies! Now I can get fs from target!
Yay for FS at Target!
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02-10-2013 at 08:13 AM.
02-10-2013 at 08:13 AM.
Quote from IceyNiki :
I ordered two Prabal Gurung For Target dresses. Mostly because I missed out on the Jason Wu for Target dress that is my pic of the moment. Hopefully, I only love one of them. Anyone else purchasing from the collection?
I ordered some of the Prabal stuff, too... I'm a sucker for Target's collabs. I stayed up late last night and ordered but I'm worried b/c reviews from people who went B&M keep mentioning that the line might run large?

And about the Jason Wu dress.. do you have it? I know you said you missed out, JW because in a strange turn of events, I actually have that dress, in white, in either a 4or 6. I'd have to go look & I don't remember what size you are. But it's still got tags and everything.
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02-10-2013 at 08:24 AM.
02-10-2013 at 08:24 AM.
And while everyone is having a heart to heart in here... can I bug you ladies for some life advice? I don't know if any of you ever watched Gilmore Girls, but I am stuck in a relationship similar to Rory & her grandparents. I'm NOT close to my mom's parents - she was an only child and they are, for lack of a better phrase, ALL UP IN her life. They own the house she rents, they come over to her house unannounced whenever they want, & they will sacrifice the happiness of anyone & everyone to do whatever it takes to make their daughter happy, even if it isn't the right thing to do. They have constantly instructed my sister and I to ignore our own feelings or integrity at her expense (I ignore them, which is why they think I'm a troubled child and need extra forced attention).

The problem is, they *know* I'm not close to them and that I disapprove of their life philosophies, especially concerning my mother. So in return, they attempt to absolutely smother me with attention & "affection" (usually disguised as money) to buy my love. They repeatedly offer to do outrageous things like buy me a car, but I always decline beause I don't want to owe them anything (not in the monetary sense, but I would always be indebted to them).

I know that's a really long back story, sorry.. the problem I'm having is that they have a "family" lunch every Sunday. I got out of it while I was away & in college, but now they are continually badgering me about coming. It has gotten to the point where they show up at my work to put me on the spot, in person. They know I'm single, that my work is closed Sundays... so they know I have no excuse to not go. It's hard to be like "Well, I have laundry to do, so I can't spare a few hours" or "I was really planning on just kicking back and being lazy." How do I say NO, especially when they put me on the spot in front of other people??
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02-10-2013 at 08:32 AM.
02-10-2013 at 08:32 AM.
Quote from earthdeuxbella :
And while everyone is having a heart to heart in here... can I bug you ladies for some life advice? I don't know if any of you ever watched Gilmore Girls, but I am stuck in a relationship similar to Rory & her grandparents. I'm NOT close to my mom's parents - she was an only child and they are, for lack of a better phrase, ALL UP IN her life. They own the house she rents, they come over to her house unannounced whenever they want, & they will sacrifice the happiness of anyone & everyone to do whatever it takes to make their daughter happy, even if it isn't the right thing to do. They have constantly instructed my sister and I to ignore our own feelings or integrity at her expense (I ignore them, which is why they think I'm a troubled child and need extra forced attention).

The problem is, they *know* I'm not close to them and that I disapprove of their life philosophies, especially concerning my mother. So in return, they attempt to absolutely smother me with attention & "affection" (usually disguised as money) to buy my love. They repeatedly offer to do outrageous things like buy me a car, but I always decline beause I don't want to owe them anything (not in the monetary sense, but I would always be indebted to them).

I know that's a really long back story, sorry.. the problem I'm having is that they have a "family" lunch every Sunday. I got out of it while I was away & in college, but now they are continually badgering me about coming. It has gotten to the point where they show up at my work to put me on the spot, in person. They know I'm single, that my work is closed Sundays... so they know I have no excuse to not go. It's hard to be like "Well, I have laundry to do, so I can't spare a few hours" or "I was really planning on just kicking back and being lazy." How do I say NO, especially when they put me on the spot in front of other people??
Family problems are the worst. I'm assuming they just act like nothing is wrong when they see you? Can you say that you do volunteer work on Sundays or you are working on a project? Maybe make up an obligation to a friend or something...that is a tough one. Maybe you should take up something that specifically happens at that time - make yourself unavailable.

Perhaps you could also just tell them no. If they ask why, just tell them you are busy or even that you just don't want to go. Sometimes honesty is the best policy - I know I wasn't much help but I hope you get a resolution soon. Good luck.
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I guess one of the things that makes it so difficult is that this is the oilfield.
I know what you're talking about. Dh's company had female engineer apply to be a project manager with them. They were concerned about the men under her respecting her. IMO she'd have to work so much harder because of that. She eventually decided herself she didn't want the position after they carried her out to one of the sites.

I think it's good you have a plan to get away from that company. Some guys are just like that. I wish I could tell you to put something in his food but that would probably get you in trouble Evillaugh.
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