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My 4yr old was left at his dad's home w/ a 10 and 8 yr old...what do I do?

1,230 2,939 February 18, 2013 at 08:39 PM in Babies & Kids (2)
sorry people. I never venture into the Lounge, but I figured this was worth the question. My son is four and his dad and I have been split up/divorced for 3 yrs+. we have split custody and trade off every other week. we live in TX.

My son told me that he was left at home with the other two boys that live in his home that are 10 and 8 (ex lives with his GF and her 2 kids)

I am thinking of getting a lawyer and taking him to court for child endangerment.

I can understand maybe a 13+ yr old watching some other kid but not 10 and 8. They have no knowledge of CPR, first aid, calling 911 in a panic, fire danger, not answering the front door.

Any thoughts, suggestions? I am kind of scared of turning his dad in, as to what can happen on the weeks I dont have him, but I feel helpless putting my son in that situation.

I called my ex and he admitted they left them but "only for a few mins, and it wasnt my concern on the weeks that arent mine"

(please excuse the typing as my s and w key are busted, so I have to cut and paste. )

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HeyLookItsMe
02-19-2013 at 07:24 AM.
02-19-2013 at 07:24 AM.
Quote from aemcgee :
sorry people. I never venture into the Lounge, but I figured this was worth the question. My son is four and his dad and I have been split up/divorced for 3 yrs+. we have split custody and trade off every other week. we live in TX.

My son told me that he was left at home with the other two boys that live in his home that are 10 and 8 (ex lives with his GF and her 2 kids)

I am thinking of getting a lawyer and taking him to court for child endangerment.

I can understand maybe a 13+ yr old watching some other kid but not 10 and 8. They have no knowledge of CPR, first aid, calling 911 in a panic, fire danger, not answering the front door.

Any thoughts, suggestions? I am kind of scared of turning his dad in, as to what can happen on the weeks I dont have him, but I feel helpless putting my son in that situation.

I called my ex and he admitted they left them but "only for a few mins, and it wasnt my concern on the weeks that arent mine"

(please excuse the typing as my s and w key are busted, so I have to cut and paste. )
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Quote from kdt :
Still upset he dumped you 3 years ago huh?
you think?
Quote from Iaaaiws :
I say keep calling the dad over and over and nag him about it until he admits what he did was wrong.
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Quote from aemcgee :
wow you're so cool....thanks for helping me with my child's well being...

...and I divorced him
so then you are still bitter
Quote from Kristin :
I was certified in first aid & CPR when I was 10. I knew how to dial 911 when I was about 5 and always knew to not answer the front door. Dontknow

I'm not saying what he did was necessarily right but the fact that you're ready to run down to the courthouse over it suggests there's more to the story. look around
lol theres no such thing as an amicable divorice
Quote from moey :
uh oh.... I bring the trash buckets in from the street and I tell our 3 year old to watch our 8 week old. I feel very negligent at this point. One time I even talked to the neighbor when I was out. Oh wait our dog is there shes 9, Im good..
it that 9 in dog years?
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chevvy
02-19-2013 at 07:25 AM.
02-19-2013 at 07:25 AM.
Quote from HeyLookItsMe :
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you think?
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so then you are still bitter

lol theres no such thing as an amicable divorice
it that 9 in dog years?

I nominate this for post of the week! :winner:
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HeyLookItsMe
02-19-2013 at 07:28 AM.
02-19-2013 at 07:28 AM.
Quote from ALVSGIRLY :
Y'all really need to learn how to co-parent for the child's best interest. With that being said, I wouldn't want my 4 year old left alone with children that age and would put a stop to it.
i don't think thats true…


i think the real question is for how long and where did the "supervisor" go?


if they were gone for 5 minutes to check the mail, or to go over to the neighbors house to hep them jump start the car, its COMPLETELY different than having them gone for 2 hours while they went to buy weed and get loaded…


OP's story is indicative of someone who is bitter and angry, a reasonable person would have started with sitting down and having a conversation to get the circumstances about what happened.


OP is just trolling their ex and deserves to loose custody of their child for being too stupid to raise children properly

Quote from LordOfChaos :
ok, I will TRY to help out a bit.

OP, if your first thought is to lawyer up, you need to take a long look in the mirror and get your head right. I can only imagine the way you approached your ex when you learned of the situation, and I can probably understand why he would get defensive.

The first thing you should have done was calmed down, and tried to understand the situation from both sides. Then when you are calm and have thought about it a bit, think about what you would like to happen or change in the future. With your knee jerk reaction, what did you want to happen? Take away his custody? Is that what you want? Why? Or do you just want him to watch your son better? If its the latter, then a simple email or phone call would probably suffice. If its the former, then this situation has nothing to do with what you want.

Anyway, moving forward. You could probably say something like:

"Hey , sorry about the conversation the other day about . I was a little out of line with my tone and want to apologize. That being said, I am still concerned about having your GFs children watch , even if its for a few minutes. I know situations may come up when its not that convenient to take with you, but I would feel more comfortable if you would could just please have him go with you so that I know a responsible and caring person is always watching him. I know you would never want to put in a dangerous situation, and neither would I. And just as you have every right to know that is safe with me, I want to be assured that he is safe with you.

I really appreciate your consideration in this, and again I apologize for my tone the other day"
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02-19-2013 at 07:32 AM.
02-19-2013 at 07:32 AM.
Quote from ALVSGIRLY :
Y'all really need to learn how to co-parent for the child's best interest. With that being said, I wouldn't want my 4 year old left alone with children that age and would put a stop to it.
I think that's the best answer so far. My concern is how long were the kids left alone. A quick run to the store or chat with a neighbor is one thing but ex could be dumping the kids on the 10 year old to do his own thing. When the 4 year old is at his home, a responsible individual should be caring for him.
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ALVSGIRLY
02-19-2013 at 07:48 AM.
02-19-2013 at 07:48 AM.
Quote from HeyLookItsMe :
i don't think thats true…


i think the real question is for how long and where did the "supervisor" go?


if they were gone for 5 minutes to check the mail, or to go over to the neighbors house to hep them jump start the car, its COMPLETELY different than having them gone for 2 hours while they went to buy weed and get loaded…


OP's story is indicative of someone who is bitter and angry, a reasonable person would have started with sitting down and having a conversation to get the circumstances about what happened.


OP is just trolling their ex and deserves to loose custody of their child for being too stupid to raise children properly
I totally agree with you about how long they were left and where the father was. I also think that the relationship seems toxic since she immediately wants to get the courts involved, but idk. I just wouldn't want my child left alone with children of that age for a long period of time if the other parent wasn't right there where he can see the house.
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02-19-2013 at 08:10 AM.
02-19-2013 at 08:10 AM.
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I think that's the best answer so far.
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02-19-2013 at 08:18 AM.
02-19-2013 at 08:18 AM.
Quote from LordOfChaos :
ok, I will TRY to help out a bit.

OP, if your first thought is to lawyer up, you need to take a long look in the mirror and get your head right. I can only imagine the way you approached your ex when you learned of the situation, and I can probably understand why he would get defensive.

The first thing you should have done was calmed down, and tried to understand the situation from both sides. Then when you are calm and have thought about it a bit, think about what you would like to happen or change in the future. With your knee jerk reaction, what did you want to happen? Take away his custody? Is that what you want? Why? Or do you just want him to watch your son better? If its the latter, then a simple email or phone call would probably suffice. If its the former, then this situation has nothing to do with what you want.

Anyway, moving forward. You could probably say something like:

"Hey , sorry about the conversation the other day about . I was a little out of line with my tone and want to apologize. That being said, I am still concerned about having your GFs children watch , even if its for a few minutes. I know situations may come up when its not that convenient to take with you, but I would feel more comfortable if you would could just please have him go with you so that I know a responsible and caring person is always watching him. I know you would never want to put in a dangerous situation, and neither would I. And just as you have every right to know that is safe with me, I want to be assured that he is safe with you.

I really appreciate your consideration in this, and again I apologize for my tone the other day"
My exact thoughts as well. Written alot better than I could have.
Fighting with your ex wont accomplish anything. You need to realize that you both are working together to raise your son, despite it being in two different homes. Animosity between the parents does no good at all. I have seen this very closely several times.
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Kristin
02-19-2013 at 09:25 AM.
02-19-2013 at 09:25 AM.
Quote from aemcgee :
No one here could say that even if a child knew CPR or not to answer the door or how to call 911 that they would actually do it in an emergency situation.
The same could be said for a person of any age. You never know for sure how someone would handle a situation until said situation has occurred. Merely being of a certain age doesn't automatically qualify a person as responsible. I would trust a responsible child who knows first aid & CPR over several of the "adults" I've met in my lifetime. laugh out loud

It really sounds like you're looking for reasons to nail your ex to the wall when IMO your energy would be much better spent trying to work together for the sake of your child. You both want the same thing: what's best for your son. Doing so is going to require a lot of civil communication and compromise on both sides but your son is worth it, and in the end if you and the ex can find some common ground you'll all be a lot happier.

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Fighting with your ex wont accomplish anything. You need to realize that you both are working together to raise your son, despite it being in two different homes. Animosity between the parents does no good at all.
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02-19-2013 at 09:57 AM.
02-19-2013 at 09:57 AM.
Quote from HeyLookItsMe :
i don't think thats true…

i think the real question is for how long and where did the "supervisor" go?

if they were gone for 5 minutes to check the mail, or to go over to the neighbors house to hep them jump start the car, its COMPLETELY different than having them gone for 2 hours while they went to buy weed and get loaded…
Yeah, I like how that really hasn't been elaborated on, even though that's the key factor in the whole issue. How long the adults were gone.

Going to the mailbox and then running into some neighbors to talk for 5 minutes isn't awful. But heading out to the grocery for an hour or two is not acceptable.

I do think it doesn't help that OP doesn't know the kids. I know I would be concerned, even if they were an appropriate age, if I didn't know the people watching my kid. But I don't know if there's much you can do about that. Dontknow That just sucks.
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02-19-2013 at 10:10 AM.
02-19-2013 at 10:10 AM.
Quote from Iaaaiws :
I have no idea if what the OP describes is endangerment or abuse or whatever, but there certainly ought to be a term that describes what an innocent child goes through when they have their lives uprooted every single week of the farking year to go live in a different house with their other parent because it is "their turn".

The kids always pay the biggest price for the choices of their parents.
I agree. The parents often end up jaded and bitter, and all too often the kids become pawns in a lifelong battle. The kids end up being royally screwed. It's just heartbreaking. Down
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02-19-2013 at 10:21 AM.
02-19-2013 at 10:21 AM.
Looks like in Tx there is no age minimum https://www.dfps.state.tx.us/Chil...dalone.asp

But might I suggest, if your child is possibly going to be put in such a situation in the future, whether for 10 min or 3 hours, that you take the responsibility for training him on what to do in the case of an emergency, like taking him to babysitting classes. He may not be allowed to get certification, but they may allow him to attend. Not as an encouragement to let younger ages be left alone, but for peace of mind in case your ex puts him in that situation. (assuming this is not a regular habit and that it is brief)


FYI I would be appalled if I heard my DS who has kids the same ages left the kids at home, even to run and buy milk.

now laughing at myself thinking back, I was watching my db/ds when I was 10 and they were 7/5 in Tx I had to watch them and make sure we had dinner till my folks got back from work at 11pm most days. if I recall. But that was a different time.
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02-19-2013 at 10:36 AM.
02-19-2013 at 10:36 AM.
Doncha love it when someone makes a post thinking they're going to get a lot of head patting and commiseration and then when they get a big fat bucket of reality dumped on their head they can't handle it so they just disappear and never come back?

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02-19-2013 at 10:42 AM.
02-19-2013 at 10:42 AM.
Quote from rosprncss :
now laughing at myself thinking back, I was watching my db/ds when I was 10 and they were 7/5 in Tx I had to watch them and make sure we had dinner till my folks got back from work at 11pm most days. if I recall. But that was a different time.
It wasn't that different, we just didn't have a 24 hour news cycle to make us scared of everything.
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02-19-2013 at 10:50 AM.
02-19-2013 at 10:50 AM.
Quote from Frogstar :
It wasn't that different, we just didn't have a 24 hour news cycle to make us scared of everything.
Iagree Am I the only one thinking about the episode of South Park where the parents get so freaked out about child abductions they ask the City Wok guy to build a Great Wall of South Park?

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02-19-2013 at 10:50 AM.
02-19-2013 at 10:50 AM.
Quote from rosprncss :

now laughing at myself thinking back, I was watching my db/ds when I was 10 and they were 7/5 in Tx I had to watch them and make sure we had dinner till my folks got back from work at 11pm most days. if I recall. But that was a different time.

Times haven't changed other then parents baby their children for so much longer and then they wonder why their 30 year old son still lives in the basement.
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