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Engine mysteriously died in a new car - how can I turn it to my advantage?

1,185 414 May 14, 2013 at 08:36 PM in Chat
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Six weeks ago, I bought a brand new car, with warranty and all that other good stuff. Two days ago, as I was driving on a highway, the coolant light came on, followed by an engine light, followed by my car dying just a minute later.

After it got towed to the dealership, they said the cause was a leaking radiator hose. (Keep in mind, the car is 6 weeks old and has only 850 miles on it!) After they replaced it, it kept acting up, so they decided to hold it a bit longer. (They got me a rental car in the meantime.)

When I called them earlier today to see if they had any updates, I was told this: "Oh, hi there. Uh, we don't really know what's wrong with your car, so we decided to replace the whole engine! Smilie Smilie Smilie We'll get a brand new one tomorrow and it'll be good to go by Thursday! Smilie Smilie Smilie "

When I asked what exactly was wrong, they just kept repeating the same thing. I don't know a whole lot about cars, but a friend told me that getting a replacement engine pretty much destroys the car's resale value because people will wonder what else might be wrong with it. Is that correct? Logically, it would seem that, for example, a 10-year-old car with a 1-year-old engine is better than a 10-year-old car with a 10-year-old engine, but consumer psychology is a strange animal.

Personally, I plan on driving the car for 10 years and 120,000 miles (it's got an extended warranty) before I trade it in, so the resale value isn't a big deal for me. That said, is there any way I can spin this to get some major freebies (e.g., get the car company to shave off a few grand off my loan balance) or something along those lines? Right now, they're just paying for my rental car and nothing else. Given the sheer immensity of this colossal fark-up, though, it seems to me that they owe me a lot more than that.

Got any comments, advice or suggestions?
Thanks!

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Storyteller
05-21-2013 at 07:17 PM.
05-21-2013 at 07:17 PM.
Quote from thegoalie :
But I'd sure as hell keep an eye on the coolant temperature gauge and pull over as soon as it begins to rise past normal levels.
Kia Rio doesn't have a coolant temperature gauge on the dashboard. Blink Either they don't have hot temperatures in Korea, or they were so damn certain that their engines would never, ever overheat.

By the way, here's a new update for the Kia Saga. (Reposted from my facebook.)


I don't get angry often, but when I do, it's blinding RAGE. My curiosity was killing me, so I called Kia's customer affairs to see if they had some information about the mysterious glitch that destroyed my engine. The dealership manager had claimed they didn't know what happened, that they sent the engine to Kia's research center and that "these things happen."

Lo and behold - 5 minutes after I called Kia, they called the dealership and found out it was actually a "coolant line not secured during manufacturing" that killed the engine. Something that should have been caught at the factory or at the dealership before they sold it in one of the hottest cities in America. This whole time, it was a concealed defect, followed by a half-assed cover-up attempt. That son of a bitch lied straight to my face...

Called the customer affairs again, demanded a brand new car or all my money back. They transferred it over to their regional HQ. Should hear back from them soon.

I can understand and maybe even forgive a lot of things, but lying to your customer?! Those bastards are going to pay...
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Justawannabe
05-21-2013 at 10:44 PM.
05-21-2013 at 10:44 PM.
Nvm..

But really this must be the longest post in the Lounge that has managed to stay on topic at least 80% of the time!

Good luck with your car OP!
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zzyzzx
05-22-2013 at 07:15 AM.
05-22-2013 at 07:15 AM.
Quote from Storyteller :
Kia Rio doesn't have a coolant temperature gauge on the dashboard. Blink Either they don't have hot temperatures in Korea, or they were so damn certain that their engines would never, ever overheat.
It's normal for some cheaper cars to have less gauges. My 1995 Escort does have a temperature gauge and tachometer, etc. It's also normal for cars for sale outside the US (especially Europe) to not have a temperature gauge.


Quote from Storyteller :
Lo and behold - 5 minutes after I called Kia, they called the dealership and found out it was actually a "coolant line not secured during manufacturing" that killed the engine. Something that should have been caught at the factory or at the dealership before they sold it in one of the hottest cities in America..
Obligatory comment about how foreign cars are supposedly soo reliable.
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Landers
05-22-2013 at 07:16 AM.
05-22-2013 at 07:16 AM.
Quote from zzyzzx :
Obligatory comment about how foreign cars are supposedly soo reliable.
Please tell me you realize that you can't be basing the reliability of foreign-made cars on how a Kia performed... laugh out loud
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Jabbit
05-22-2013 at 07:48 AM.
05-22-2013 at 07:48 AM.
Quote from zzyzzx :
Obligatory comment about how foreign cars are supposedly soo reliable.
Assembled in Georgia, USA.
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zzyzzx
05-22-2013 at 07:55 AM.
05-22-2013 at 07:55 AM.
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Assembled in Georgia, USA.
Wikipedia says South Korea.
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05-22-2013 at 08:08 AM.
05-22-2013 at 08:08 AM.
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Wikipedia says South Korea.
You are right, I guess KMMG only does the Sorento and Optima.
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PiratePenguin
05-22-2013 at 08:58 AM.
05-22-2013 at 08:58 AM.
Quote from zzyzzx :
It's normal for some cheaper cars to have less gauges. My 1995 Escort does have a temperature gauge and tachometer, etc. It's also normal for cars for sale outside the US (especially Europe) to not have a temperature gauge.




Obligatory comment about how foreign cars are supposedly soo reliable.
Its not just a cost thing. Its to clean up the cluster. My car and I assume his as well still monitors the temp but has a warning light instead of the gauge. Mine also has a cold light that goes off once the car is warmed up. No need for ugly gauges when a small light can do the same function.

And if you are the type of person who needs 1000 gagues to look at while you drive, just use the torque app and a bluetooth obdii adapter.
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05-22-2013 at 09:25 AM.
05-22-2013 at 09:25 AM.
Quote from PiratePenguin :
Its not just a cost thing. Its to clean up the cluster. My car and I assume his as well still monitors the temp but has a warning light instead of the gauge. Mine also has a cold light that goes off once the car is warmed up. No need for ugly gauges when a small light can do the same function.

And if you are the type of person who needs 1000 gagues to look at while you drive, just use the torque app and a bluetooth obdii adapter.
Those of us who actually know how to read the gauges and understand them prefer to have them. That and not all my cars are new enough to have OBDII, so a scan gauge won't work on my Escort. That and a lack on an on/off switch on a scan gauge, really turns me off to then.
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Landers
05-22-2013 at 09:33 AM.
05-22-2013 at 09:33 AM.
Quote from PiratePenguin :
Its not just a cost thing. Its to clean up the cluster. My car and I assume his as well still monitors the temp but has a warning light instead of the gauge. Mine also has a cold light that goes off once the car is warmed up. No need for ugly gauges when a small light can do the same function.

And if you are the type of person who needs 1000 gagues to look at while you drive, just use the torque app and a bluetooth obdii adapter.

I have considered the bluetooth stuff just for kicks, but since that's all it would be, I can't justify the cost right now.

Quote from zzyzzx :
Those of us who actually know how to read the gauges and understand them prefer to have them. That and not all my cars are new enough to have OBDII, so a scan gauge won't work on my Escort. That and a lack on an on/off switch on a scan gauge, really turns me off to then.
You say that as though a gauge is some extremely complicated thing to read... laugh out loud

My car doesn't have one either and it's not considered a cheap car. It has the gauges that are necessary. If it needs to warn me about something else I have dash warnings and a little LCD that will spit out exactly what the issue for me.
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05-22-2013 at 09:47 AM.
05-22-2013 at 09:47 AM.
Quote from Storyteller :
Kia Rio doesn't have a coolant temperature gauge on the dashboard. Blink Either they don't have hot temperatures in Korea, or they were so damn certain that their engines would never, ever overheat.

By the way, here's a new update for the Kia Saga. (Reposted from my facebook.)


I don't get angry often, but when I do, it's blinding RAGE. My curiosity was killing me, so I called Kia's customer affairs to see if they had some information about the mysterious glitch that destroyed my engine. The dealership manager had claimed they didn't know what happened, that they sent the engine to Kia's research center and that "these things happen."

Lo and behold - 5 minutes after I called Kia, they called the dealership and found out it was actually a "coolant line not secured during manufacturing" that killed the engine. Something that should have been caught at the factory or at the dealership before they sold it in one of the hottest cities in America. This whole time, it was a concealed defect, followed by a half-assed cover-up attempt. That son of a bitch lied straight to my face...

Called the customer affairs again, demanded a brand new car or all my money back. They transferred it over to their regional HQ. Should hear back from them soon.

I can understand and maybe even forgive a lot of things, but lying to your customer?! Those bastards are going to pay...
Should have been caught at the factory probably it could have been a case of a screw that was not tightened hard to tell that from looking. A dealership would most likely never catch that they have no need to inspect a car. Cars overheat in cold weather too.

Id push for a new car, you probably can get it if you push hard enough.

Surprised the idiot light didn't come on. Even if the car does not have a temp gauge they usually have a high temp light.
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05-22-2013 at 09:58 AM.
05-22-2013 at 09:58 AM.
Quote from zzyzzx :
Those of us who actually know how to read the gauges and understand them prefer to have them. That and not all my cars are new enough to have OBDII, so a scan gauge won't work on my Escort. That and a lack on an on/off switch on a scan gauge, really turns me off to then.
I get it and I had like them as well but I have learned to live without and appreciate the cleaner dash.

IE you can see the blue light indicates a cold engine. But in return just the essentials, tach and speedometer.

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05-22-2013 at 10:47 AM.
05-22-2013 at 10:47 AM.
Quote from Landers :
I have considered the bluetooth stuff just for kicks, but since that's all it would be, I can't justify the cost right now.
Mine was $20 on Amazon. Reviews said that particular one didn't work great with Fords, but I don't own any of those at the moment.
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05-22-2013 at 10:50 AM.
05-22-2013 at 10:50 AM.
Quote from Frogstar :
Mine was $20 on Amazon. Reviews said that particular one didn't work great with Fords, but I don't own any of those at the moment.
Don't have a Ford.. so what one did you end up buying? I'll take a look.
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05-22-2013 at 10:56 AM.
05-22-2013 at 10:56 AM.
Quote from Frogstar :
Mine was $20 on Amazon. Reviews said that particular one didn't work great with Fords, but I don't own any of those at the moment.
Quote from Landers :
Don't have a Ford.. so what one did you end up buying? I'll take a look.
I thought those were more inline with constant monitoring with a laptop...like during dyno testing, etc...
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