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December 2, 2007 at
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you dont get the right to feel insulted, u have been warned...
so, peeps, if you dont believe in god, do you feel that ones that do are delusional?
a lot of people will sight karma or other things as 'he got what he had coming' but i argue that it's all a mathematical randomness that on a small scale might seem like karma
perfect example is: when you play poker and u push with the best hand, a LOT of times, you can predict/be so sure that the card will come that will beat you even if the chance of it coming is less than 1:6. when the card comes, some might argue it as karma, but i argue that its all random, just on a small scale randomness doesn't work
discuss....
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you dont get the right to feel insulted, u have been warned...
so, peeps, if you dont believe in god, do you feel that ones that do are delusional?
a lot of people will sight karma or other things as 'he got what he had coming' but i argue that it's all a mathematical randomness that on a small scale might seem like karma
perfect example is: when you play poker and u push with the best hand, a LOT of times, you can predict/be so sure that the card will come that will beat you even if the chance of it coming is less than 1:6. when the card comes, some might argue it as karma, but i argue that its all random, just on a small scale randomness doesn't work
discuss....
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I mean, since all that needs to be said about scientific proof for either side has been said, right?
When someone decides that learning about something is unnecessary, that's when they are lacking and are pointless to debate with. Even an intelligent atheist (someone who has decided that there is no God) will tell you that they must know both sides of the coin if they are to properly defend their beliefs.
We are fairly certain that Jesus was a real person, so that wasn't made up. Most scholars do believe he existed. There's just no proof of who he was. So, you can first look at who he said he was, which was the son of God. There is written record by quite a few saying that's what his words were. Then, you can look at other possibilities. One is that he was a truly evil person...which I suppose would be in line with your suggestion...lying and creating such a story sounds pretty evil to me. I'm just not sure who he would be conspiring with, though. The government of the time sure wasn't coordinating with him. They hated the guy (they killed him after all), he caused a lot of disorder both during and after his life. The third theory is that he was a crazy man who truly believed he was the son of God...but was sane enough to fool an awfully large group of people.
Last option is that you agree with the small minority of scholars who say he didn't exist.
We are fairly certain that Jesus was a real person, so that wasn't made up. Most scholars do believe he existed. There's just no proof of who he was. So, you can first look at who he said he was, which was the son of God. There is written record by quite a few saying that's what his words were. Then, you can look at other possibilities. One is that he was a truly evil person...which I suppose would be in line with your suggestion...lying and creating such a story sounds pretty evil to me. I'm just not sure who he would be conspiring with, though. The government of the time sure wasn't coordinating with him. They hated the guy (they killed him after all), he caused a lot of disorder both during and after his life. The third theory is that he was a crazy man who truly believed he was the son of God...but was sane enough to fool an awfully large group of people.
Last option is that you agree with the small minority of scholars who say he didn't exist.
Serious question here: Is he believed to be son of god? I always thought that christianty believed him to be a saint, but not the actual "son of god".
Serious question here: Is he believed to be son of god? I always thought that christianty believed him to be a saint, but not the actual "son of god".
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Science can't disprove God but everyday gets closer to learning how God created it all.
Science may not be able to disprove the existence of a supreme being but it can disprove some biblical explanations. I've talked to people who believe the earth is around 6000 years old. Carbon dating says that's *way* off. Of course there are those who believe carbon dating is inaccurate but they always seem to have a motive/bias.
As an agnostic I agree it may be true that a supreme being created everything in the universe. That said, I do not believe in what religion provides as an explanation. IMO if there is a 'God' it is not the ones made up by man.
Serious question here: Is he believed to be son of god? I always thought that christianty believed him to be a saint, but not the actual "son of god".
Science may not be able to disprove the existence of a supreme being but it can disprove some biblical explanations. I've talked to people who believe the earth is around 6000 years old. Carbon dating says that's *way* off. Of course there are those who believe carbon dating is inaccurate but they always seem to have a motive/bias.
As an agnostic I agree it may be true that a supreme being created everything in the universe. That said, I do not believe in what religion provides as an explanation. IMO if there is a 'God' it is not the ones made up by man.
Remebered another one, but this relates more to the jewish holiday of passover. they eat matzah instead of bread, well no shit they were in the desert, carrying doh on their backs, dropped it off on a hot rock and it baked. great holiday. Also the reason why they were the little hats -- it was hot in the dessert, you need to keep your head cool. It's a very practical religion, but people see beyond the practicality and make it into more of a religious thing.
I mean, since all that needs to be said about scientific proof for either side has been said, right?
When someone decides that learning about something is unnecessary, that's when they are lacking and are pointless to debate with. Even an intelligent atheist (someone who has decided that there is no God) will tell you that they must know both sides of the coin if they are to properly defend their beliefs.
2. I've read and seen enough of what the creationists have to say to form my opinion. I'm not going to waste my time reading more on something I don't believe in.
3. No one has answered my question on what has more proof. Evolution or Creationism?
4. I'm not atheist, I'm agnostic.
http://net.bible.org/verse.php?bo...
Son of Man is a Messianic title since he was born of a human, but it doesn't delineate from him having the spirit of God.
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2. I've read and seen enough of what the creationists have to say to form my opinion. I'm not going to waste my time reading more on something I don't believe in.
3. No one has answered my question on what has more proof. Evolution or Creationism?
4. I'm not atheist, I'm agnostic.