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December 2, 2007 at
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you dont get the right to feel insulted, u have been warned...
so, peeps, if you dont believe in god, do you feel that ones that do are delusional?
a lot of people will sight karma or other things as 'he got what he had coming' but i argue that it's all a mathematical randomness that on a small scale might seem like karma
perfect example is: when you play poker and u push with the best hand, a LOT of times, you can predict/be so sure that the card will come that will beat you even if the chance of it coming is less than 1:6. when the card comes, some might argue it as karma, but i argue that its all random, just on a small scale randomness doesn't work
discuss....
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you dont get the right to feel insulted, u have been warned...
so, peeps, if you dont believe in god, do you feel that ones that do are delusional?
a lot of people will sight karma or other things as 'he got what he had coming' but i argue that it's all a mathematical randomness that on a small scale might seem like karma
perfect example is: when you play poker and u push with the best hand, a LOT of times, you can predict/be so sure that the card will come that will beat you even if the chance of it coming is less than 1:6. when the card comes, some might argue it as karma, but i argue that its all random, just on a small scale randomness doesn't work
discuss....
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I was raised Calvinist...but I'm not. I don't think I was really a Christian growing up...not until several years ago, that's when it really hit home.
2. I've read and seen enough of what the creationists have to say to form my opinion. I'm not going to waste my time reading more on something I don't believe in.
3. No one has answered my question on what has more proof. Evolution or Creationism?
4. I'm not atheist, I'm agnostic.
2. Once again, that's ridiculous. If you are the smartest person in the universe, you would still have a desire to learn more.
3. We have given different reasons and I have helped supply the resources which will give scientific proof for creationism. You already have the proof for your beliefs in Evolution, I would assume. So yes, in essence, I have answered your question by guiding you to resources which will help you learn more about BOTH sides of the coin so you can decide for yourself.
4. I was referring to AN atheist. Nowhere in that sentence did I make an assumption of your beliefs.
You just keep illustrating my point that someone who is stubborn in their own mindset and is unwilling to learn more about other ideas is in a sad way.
It's very hard for me to believe in something that does not have any physical proof of existence. I stopped believing in a higher power about 6 or so years ago.
My husband is Lutheran. He is a believer. We've had many discussions on faith. I do not think he delusional, and do enjoy discussing religions with him.
I do not think differently of people who believe in a god, higher power, etc. I respect their ideas & believes, and hope for the same in return.
It's very hard for me to believe in something that does not have any physical proof of existence. I stopped believing in a higher power about 6 or so years ago.
My husband is Lutheran. He is a believer. We've had many discussions on faith. I do not think he delusional, and do enjoy discussing religions with him.
I do not think differently of people who believe in a god, higher power, etc. I respect their ideas & believes, and hope for the same in return.
For much of history, we have nothing but written and artistic proof and the Bible is considered more historically accurate than all other writings of the time based on the sheer number of copies made and the number of languages it was translated into so early on. Cross-references can be made to see how much (or how little in this case) the writings have changed over time.
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For this reason, I wouldn't read this thread. Most people who would wish for an argument on the topic have already hardened their minds and hearts and will not change them.
It is beyond me how someone can understand science and not believe in God. Just understanding the enzyme (how without just one enzyme, an entire body does not function, and yet the body is loaded with enzymes, each with a specific and unique function) should be enough to convince anyone of divine/intelligent design.
For this reason, I wouldn't read this thread. Most people who would wish for an argument on the topic have already hardened their minds and hearts and will not change them.
It is beyond me how someone can understand science and not believe in God. Just understanding the enzyme (how without just one enzyme, an entire body does not function, and yet the body is loaded with enzymes, each with a specific and unique function) should be enough to convince anyone of divine design.
It's very hard for me to believe in something that does not have any physical proof of existence. I stopped believing in a higher power about 6 or so years ago.
My husband is Lutheran. He is a believer. We've had many discussions on faith. I do not think he delusional, and do enjoy discussing religions with him.
I do not think differently of people who believe in a god, higher power, etc. I respect their ideas & believes, and hope for the same in return.
kel is that cathetic outfit
For this reason, I wouldn't read this thread. Most people who would wish for an argument on the topic have already hardened their minds and hearts and will not change them.
It is beyond me how someone can understand science and not believe in God. Just understanding the enzyme (how without just one enzyme, an entire body does not function, and yet the body is loaded with enzymes, each with a specific and unique function) should be enough to convince anyone of divine/intelligent design.
In essence, how does what you call an invisible, intangible, eternally elusive God differ from an imaginary God or no God at all?
As for the one enzyme debate, couldn't it be argued that the in this infinite universe, there was a parallel world, the same in everyday, except for they didn't have that one enzyme. They of course would have died, and we (people on Earth) would have never known the difference. This could be argued for every other minor detail that keeps us alive.
^^This is addressed to PG or anyone not named SlicKitty^^
For much of history, we have nothing but written and artistic proof and the Bible is considered more historically accurate than all other writings of the time based on the sheer number of copies made and the number of languages it was translated into so early on. Cross-references can be made to see how much (or how little in this case) the writings have changed over time.
Yep, I had to wear a uniform & everything.
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I've been biting my tongue for most of this thread.