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December 2, 2007 at
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you dont get the right to feel insulted, u have been warned...
so, peeps, if you dont believe in god, do you feel that ones that do are delusional?
a lot of people will sight karma or other things as 'he got what he had coming' but i argue that it's all a mathematical randomness that on a small scale might seem like karma
perfect example is: when you play poker and u push with the best hand, a LOT of times, you can predict/be so sure that the card will come that will beat you even if the chance of it coming is less than 1:6. when the card comes, some might argue it as karma, but i argue that its all random, just on a small scale randomness doesn't work
discuss....
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you dont get the right to feel insulted, u have been warned...
so, peeps, if you dont believe in god, do you feel that ones that do are delusional?
a lot of people will sight karma or other things as 'he got what he had coming' but i argue that it's all a mathematical randomness that on a small scale might seem like karma
perfect example is: when you play poker and u push with the best hand, a LOT of times, you can predict/be so sure that the card will come that will beat you even if the chance of it coming is less than 1:6. when the card comes, some might argue it as karma, but i argue that its all random, just on a small scale randomness doesn't work
discuss....
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I want you guys to prove a theory for me.... Max, and Arj.... And just for the heck of it.... For science sake even..???
Say the following words out loud to yourselves (I know you might feel stupid, but just promise me that you'll do it): "God, I don't know if you exist or not... Maybe I'm wasting my time; but I would rather waste 15 seconds of my time to be proven wrong IF you do exist. Help me see...."
This isn't a Chia Pet project, so its not like you'll say this, and BAM - God appears in 24 hours right in front of you... But for the sake of science and the quest for human knowledge say that out loud, and I will make sure and pray for you two...
You never know... I'm not trying to force anything upon anyone... If you two really wonder, then you shouldn't have any problem at least saying it... You won't have to do anything else. If God does exist, He will take things from there...
Not to get further into things -- but I was born Jewish, so technically we have different Gods, and if you pray to your god for me, what does that mean?
Dang it... I hope AT&T won't charge me for this thing!
I want you guys to prove a theory for me.... Max, and Arj.... And just for the heck of it.... For science sake even..???
Say the following words out loud to yourselves (I know you might feel stupid, but just promise me that you'll do it): "God, I don't know if you exist or not... Maybe I'm wasting my time; but I would rather waste 15 seconds of my time to be proven wrong IF you do exist. Help me see...."
This isn't a Chia Pet project, so its not like you'll say this, and BAM - God appears in 24 hours right in front of you... But for the sake of science and the quest for human knowledge say that out loud, and I will make sure and pray for you two...
You never know... I'm not trying to force anything upon anyone... If you two really wonder, then you shouldn't have any problem at least saying it... You won't have to do anything else. If God does exist, He will take things from there...
Wait.... I've received a "mind signal" from someone..........................
Dang it... I hope AT&T won't charge me for this thing!
i've seriously prayed to most of the world religions. not just reciting words but trying to get it to work
my dad had a heart attack in his early 40s. i tried reaching out. i didn't feel anything. i personally don't believe that's how the world works. but i leave open the fact i'm not experiencing what i'm supposed to. i choose not to be apart of organized religions, but i hope to live a good life. one where i help my fellow man, one i take care of those who i love. all of that aside from religion.
i have more faith in sciencetific method though, then something written thousands of years ago. that's me.i put my faith in man eventually figuring out how the universe leads instead of saying i don't know, a creator must have done it.
Has anyone carbon dated diamonds besides this one Dr. John Baumgardner? If this were really shaking apart the foundation of science I'd expect to be hearing a bit more about it. Oh, whatdoyaknow... Mr Baumgardner just happened to be a rather religous geophysicsist and member of "Campus Crusade for Christ".
Heck, I believe in God and asked Him things numerous times and I never got the answer right away - that came months later
Heck, I believe in God and asked Him things numerous times and I never got the answer right away - that came months later
But maybe that's just me
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Has anyone carbon dated diamonds besides this one Dr. John Baumgardner? If this were really shaking apart the foundation of science I'd expect to be hearing a bit more about it. Oh, whatdoyaknow... Mr Baumgardner just happened to be a rather religous geophysicsist and member of "Campus Crusade for Christ".
Yes, crusades are so much fun...... Though I've yet to "slay" my first Gentile... I'm sure that's coming up on the next crusade though
And I'm not quiet sure about the cat "hearding" part - it should be pointed out that indeed, Noah's ark was (as you quoted) "A REALLY HUGE BOAT"... That's the way the Bible describes it anyways... It also gives dimension of the boat in it...
Drio, if you want I can send you a Bible if you're interested in getting the "accurate" dimension of the ark......????
i've seriously prayed to most of the world religions. not just reciting words but trying to get it to work
my dad had a heart attack in his early 40s. i tried reaching out. i didn't feel anything. i personally don't believe that's how the world works. but i leave open the fact i'm not experiencing what i'm supposed to. i choose not to be apart of organized religions, but i hope to live a good life. one where i help my fellow man, one i take care of those who i love. all of that aside from religion.
Maybe it wasn't that time for you to acknowledge God... AND thats ok. I love to see people at least *TRY*. You're NOT a "bad" person just because you don't feel it. It might not have been the right circumstances??? Questioning God's existince doesn't make you a bad person... Shoot, even denying God doesn't make you a bad person...
And w/ that said kids... I'm off to bed....
Max - Arj... I *will* be praying for you two. It can't hurt... And if it can't hurt, it might be good. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger...
Wow - I'm really glad that we were able to have a really good thread about religion/God... Hopefully I wasn't too "bible bashing" for you guys on here... I know it might seem like I had my "bible cannon" set on fully automatic, but I hope I didn't offend anyone - I know nobody offended me tonight. Hopefully I kept things pretty respectful - as you guys have done for me... I feel really good after a challenging yet engaging conversation w/ others on here - whether or not they believe in what I believe... It still makes at least for a good convo.
Good nite SD.
Maybe it wasn't that time for you to acknowledge God... AND thats ok. I love to see people at least *TRY*. You're NOT a "bad" person just because you don't feel it. It might not have been the right circumstances??? Questioning God's existince doesn't make you a bad person... Shoot, even denying God doesn't make you a bad person...
And w/ that said kids... I'm off to bed....
Max - Arj... I *will* be praying for you two. It can't hurt... And if it can't hurt, it might be good. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger...
Wow - I'm really glad that we were able to have a really good thread about religion/God... Hopefully I wasn't too "bible bashing" for you guys on here... I know it might seem like I had my "bible cannon" set on fully automatic, but I hope I didn't offend anyone - I know nobody offended me tonight. Hopefully I kept things pretty respectful - as you guys have done for me... I feel really good after a challenging yet engaging conversation w/ others on here - whether or not they believe in what I believe... It still makes at least for a good convo.
Good nite SD.
i agree
everyone who bet money of this being in the other 'forum' within 1st 20 posts, pony up!
It was an interesting conversation, I wasn't offended, and I hope I didn't offend anyone as well.
everyone who bet money of this being in the other 'forum' within 1st 20 posts, pony up!
And I'm impressed with the level of maturity that all of you had in this conversation.
everyone who bet money of this being in the other 'forum' within 1st 20 posts, pony up!
I don't have answers to any of those. Don't read any further if you want answers
Killerboots asked "If there is a God, why doesn't he make more of an effort to have relationship with his creation." I really think THAT is the root to all the questions asked. Why doesn't God come down in light and glory and make us worship him? Why doesn't he show up in our livingroom every time we pray?
This is how I think of things now.... How would it look for God to show up in my livingroom when I prayed, and still allow me to keep my free will to chose whether or not to believe in him.
God is about free will, it's something that maybe can't be understood in our humaness. We believe we want things in life fair, but when things are fair we decide things aren't fair when we see people reap negative consequences for their choices.
As a personal note, I believe God is real. Even if I never had the bible to read I would believe God is real. I have had time to think about this. I have had the experience of God reaching down to his people for relationship. I have been changed by him, many many times. I have said all the dumb things Christians say when they are insecure about their beliefs, and I have grown from there.
I am not a Christian so that I can explain the unexplainable. In fact, the unexplainable has happened to me since I became a Christian. I have changed, and I want to keep changing. I have been healed of things I never thought were possible to be healed of. I have felt peace that passes understanding in the midst of my most fearful moments. So much more has happened to me that I can't explain, that seem trite to write here in a post, but were drops of Hope in the most unbearable moments of my life.
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And I'm impressed with the level of maturity that all of you had in this conversation.