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December 2, 2007 at
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so, peeps, if you dont believe in god, do you feel that ones that do are delusional?
a lot of people will sight karma or other things as 'he got what he had coming' but i argue that it's all a mathematical randomness that on a small scale might seem like karma
perfect example is: when you play poker and u push with the best hand, a LOT of times, you can predict/be so sure that the card will come that will beat you even if the chance of it coming is less than 1:6. when the card comes, some might argue it as karma, but i argue that its all random, just on a small scale randomness doesn't work
discuss....
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you dont get the right to feel insulted, u have been warned...
so, peeps, if you dont believe in god, do you feel that ones that do are delusional?
a lot of people will sight karma or other things as 'he got what he had coming' but i argue that it's all a mathematical randomness that on a small scale might seem like karma
perfect example is: when you play poker and u push with the best hand, a LOT of times, you can predict/be so sure that the card will come that will beat you even if the chance of it coming is less than 1:6. when the card comes, some might argue it as karma, but i argue that its all random, just on a small scale randomness doesn't work
discuss....
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That would be like saying the basketball team wins because the cheerleaders wear light blue ribbons in their hair.
He obviously did not walk the walk, but how do we know he did not truly repent before his death?
I couldn't profess to know if he was repentant at his death, only God could.
Land that drinks in the rain often falling on it and that produces a crop useful to those for whom it is farmed receives the blessing of God. But land that produces thorns and thistles is worthless and is in danger of being cursed. In the end it will be burned.
Once again, just explaining the Christian viewpoint on the issue.
That would be like saying the basketball team wins because the cheerleaders wear light blue ribbons in their hair.
Which goes back to my point of life being like a zebra -- it has it's white stripes and it's black stripes, and like a zebra it could be random. Maybe she was going through a LONG white stripe which ended with the ruptured aorta?
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What if the universe needs a balance. Everything was going great for her in her life, and then WAM a swift kick in the balls (or in her case a ruptured aorta) to compensate for everything going so well?
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You have to walk the walk, Drio. It's not enough to say forgive me. You have to mean it and never go back to it. You say you're a 'good' person. What constitutes 'good' in your mind? Your idea of 'good' may be leaps and bounds away from what God would consider. Saying you never killed anyone doesn't make you good. It makes you more desirable to be let in, but not necessarily good.
He did actually touch on a similar topic. We, as humans, know what evilness is, and it's fruit, as well as goodness, purity, love, and it's fruit. It's how I hear you judge "bad Christians", because you have an idea what goodness looks like. You also know what bad looks like, and you use your intuitive definition of both to make judgements in life.
This is how we know the bible is good, and came from a good source and not an evil source. There is a lot more to it, but I don't have the gift of analytical dissection that others do.
You are right, Drio, God does judge whether people are good enough. And we aren't, not one of us is good enough. Because perfection can only be around perfection. None of us are perfect.
When God judges Christians, he somehow see's us through Jesus' blood, he see's us through Jesus' perfection. Jesus did something on the cross that allows our sins to be as if they never happened, in eternal terms, so that we can be with God when we die.
It is something we can't earn, if we could we wouldn't have needed Jesus to begin with. It is a free gift of love, because he wants to be with us.
With regards to the implication that everything in my life may have been going very well and I just needed a ruptured aorta to sort it all out for me and remind me of all that's not right with my world, I don't really need to give a dissertation on where I've come from and how my life has been, do I? The short version is - no, that was not the problem. I certainly did not need to be "balanced out". If you need the proof, I can offer it to you, but let's not travel that road, shall we? Once again, if you want to believe that the incredible string of miracles and blessings that got me where I needed to be was a result of the supreme Coincidence, that's your choice. If my story can't sway you, perhaps another will (or perhaps, God-forbid, you'll need one of your own to convince you). Either way, if you truly seek, I do believe you'll find. I hope you won't have to find out through a ruptured aorta, because Brother, it hurts. A lot. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I hope your path will be less painful, more fulfilling, and more subtle than to include anything similar, but throughout biblical history, there have been many painful moments of enlightenment for those who come to find God. (Paul/Saul leaps to mind.)
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