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backup cameras mandatory in all new vehicles
March 31, 2014 at
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Automakers will be required to install backup cameras in most new vehicles by May 2018, a federal agency announced Monday. [cnn.com]
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration finalized a long-awaited rule requiring all new cars, SUVs, and minivans, as well as some new small trucks and buses to carry rear visibility technology.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration finalized a long-awaited rule requiring all new cars, SUVs, and minivans, as well as some new small trucks and buses to carry rear visibility technology.
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If you need side sensors to let you know if someone's beside you....
If you need automatic parking assist....
You really shouldn't be driving!
Need vs want. I don't need them. I have them, and they came with other toys I like. Auto wipers and mirrors that dim when some ass doesn't have auto high beams and can't use manual ones are nice. Not needed, but nice.
Thankfully it isn't a need or I would be screwed trying to drive the Jeep...it doesn't even have power windows or A/C
I think backup sensors would be far more important than the camera as far as safety goes if they are making things mandatory. The backup sensor is going to work whether you are paying attention or not. The camera doesn't do much good if the driver isn't looking at it. If something is going to be mandatory for safety you have to take the driver out of the equation.
As far as anti-lock brakes--I'm still not a fan.
Air bags--I've never had one save me from injury but I do like the security of the added protection.
Power steering? Not mandatory as far as I know but a car with a good manual steering box gives you a better feel of the road.
Anybody remember the fiasco of the active seatbelt idea? I know Ford used it on the Escort and Tempo and I think some Toyotas had it for a while. The shoulder belt was motorized and when you turned the ignition on the belt wrapped itself around the driver automatically. The government tried hard to make this mandatory but didn't succeed and it died out with the airbag requirement.
The biggest problem I saw with it, (other than being annoying) was that the driver still had to manually put the lap belt on. In reality people forgot to use the lap belt because with the shoulder belt in place it seemed like you were already buckled in. Either that or they just intentionally didn't use the lap belt because to a cop looking from outside it appeared that you were buckled up. The shoulder belt alone was probably incredibly dangerous in an accident. The driver would likely still be thrown forward and the shoulder belt would hang them.
I think backup sensors would be far more important than the camera as far as safety goes if they are making things mandatory. The backup sensor is going to work whether you are paying attention or not. The camera doesn't do much good if the driver isn't looking at it. If something is going to be mandatory for safety you have to take the driver out of the equation.
As far as anti-lock brakes--I'm still not a fan.
Air bags--I've never had one save me from injury but I do like the security of the added protection.
Power steering? Not mandatory as far as I know but a car with a good manual steering box gives you a better feel of the road.
Anybody remember the fiasco of the active seatbelt idea? I know Ford used it on the Escort and Tempo and I think some Toyotas had it for a while. The shoulder belt was motorized and when you turned the ignition on the belt wrapped itself around the driver automatically. The government tried hard to make this mandatory but didn't succeed and it died out with the airbag requirement.
The biggest problem I saw with it, (other than being annoying) was that the driver still had to manually put the lap belt on. In reality people forgot to use the lap belt because with the shoulder belt in place it seemed like you were already buckled in. Either that or they just intentionally didn't use the lap belt because to a cop looking from outside it appeared that you were buckled up. The shoulder belt alone was probably incredibly dangerous in an accident. The driver would likely still be thrown forward and the shoulder belt would hang them.
Camera helps me a lot. I'm 5'1 and it's hard to see.
Also per the NHTSA...
What are we doing to combat the scourge of bicyclist deaths? It seems to me that banning bicycles would save nearly ten times as many lives as mandatory backup cameras.
It's really to sad that you aren't allowed to shoot stupid people. At least to thin the herd. Take out some of the breeders..
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Anybody remember the fiasco of the active seatbelt idea? I know Ford used it on the Escort and Tempo and I think some Toyotas had it for a while. The shoulder belt was motorized and when you turned the ignition on the belt wrapped itself around the driver automatically. The government tried hard to make this mandatory but didn't succeed and it died out with the airbag requirement.
The biggest problem I saw with it, (other than being annoying) was that the driver still had to manually put the lap belt on. In reality people forgot to use the lap belt because with the shoulder belt in place it seemed like you were already buckled in. Either that or they just intentionally didn't use the lap belt because to a cop looking from outside it appeared that you were buckled up. The shoulder belt alone was probably incredibly dangerous in an accident. The driver would likely still be thrown forward and the shoulder belt would hang them.
I'm with you on the sensors being more important by far. Variable electronic steering give the best of both worlds.
I remember the belts quoted. Worst idea ever. They cause more deaths/injuries than they prevented I would bet. I know of one.
inability to parallel park, look over your shoulder to look behind you, and SEE. fail any one of the 3 should have license removed. tired of these 95 year old citizens pulling their Delta '88 through a CVS wall not being able to look over their shoulder to properly back into the store to pick up their script, then finding [D] to pull out.
inability to parallel park, look over your shoulder to look behind you, and SEE. fail any one of the 3 should have license removed. tired of these 95 year old citizens pulling their Delta '88 through a CVS wall not being able to look over their shoulder to properly back into the store to pick up their script, then finding [D] to pull out.
Any we never re-test. I think once you are over 80 they start...but that's a long time to forget everything you never knew.
There are some idiots...that have bought bikes...and that's too bad as it gives the rest of us a bad rep.
inability to parallel park, look over your shoulder to look behind you, and SEE. fail any one of the 3 should have license removed. tired of these 95 year old citizens pulling their Delta '88 through a CVS wall not being able to look over their shoulder to properly back into the store to pick up their script, then finding [D] to pull out.
There are some idiots...that have bought bikes...and that's too bad as it gives the rest of us a bad rep.
That's why they have the drive thru Rx Window!!!
I'm sure running over a kid was your biggest fear.
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