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Santa Barbara murders
May 26, 2014 at
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Hundreds gathered at a memorial service Sunday night to mourn six young people killed two nights earlier by a gunman in a California college town.
Elliot Rodger, 22, the son of a Hollywood director, fatally stabbed three people in his apartment before shooting dead three others on Friday in Isla Vista, near the University of California at Santa Barbara campus. He then shot himself.
Rodger killed two women and four men, aged 19 to 22, and wounded 13 people, including eight who he shot as he sped through town in his black BMW, exchanging fire with police, authorities said.
Minutes before opening fire the former community college student emailed his plans to some 30 people including his mother, father and former teachers, said Cathleen Bloeser, whose son was a childhood friend of Rodger and received a copy.
Rodger stated his intention to kill his housemates, lure others to his home to continue the mayhem then slaughter women in a sorority and bring his spree to the streets of Isla Vista.
The manifesto, which details Rodger's fear that his guns might have been discovered when police visited him less than a month ago, was not the first indication of a troubled mind.
Linky [chicagotribune.com]
Am I the only one who sees the results of raising a self-esteem based "everyone gets a trophy" generation here? When everyone gets a trophy and every child is constantly told that they are special and everything they do is amazing, they never learn how to deal with rejection and failure. Failure is part of life and shielding children from it to preserve their self esteem is like smothering your child in antibiotics their whole life to protect them from getting sick and then wondering why they have no immune system when they grow up. If a child never learns how to cope with losing and being wrong, when they reach adulthood they don't have the mental faculties to deal with the failure they will invariably encounter in their adult lives. The guy who shot those innocent people in Santa Barbara claims that it was revenge for being rejected by the girls and the popular kids at his college. I was rejected by girls and popular kids my entire life and shooting a bunch of people never entered my mind. Maybe instead of giving our kids a trophy when they lose, we should teach them that losing is a part of life and give them the tools that they need to cope with failure, learn from it, and then get on with their lives.
Just a thought.
I hope this thread doesn't end up in The Place That Shall Not Be Named.
Elliot Rodger, 22, the son of a Hollywood director, fatally stabbed three people in his apartment before shooting dead three others on Friday in Isla Vista, near the University of California at Santa Barbara campus. He then shot himself.
Rodger killed two women and four men, aged 19 to 22, and wounded 13 people, including eight who he shot as he sped through town in his black BMW, exchanging fire with police, authorities said.
Minutes before opening fire the former community college student emailed his plans to some 30 people including his mother, father and former teachers, said Cathleen Bloeser, whose son was a childhood friend of Rodger and received a copy.
Rodger stated his intention to kill his housemates, lure others to his home to continue the mayhem then slaughter women in a sorority and bring his spree to the streets of Isla Vista.
The manifesto, which details Rodger's fear that his guns might have been discovered when police visited him less than a month ago, was not the first indication of a troubled mind.
Linky [chicagotribune.com]
Am I the only one who sees the results of raising a self-esteem based "everyone gets a trophy" generation here? When everyone gets a trophy and every child is constantly told that they are special and everything they do is amazing, they never learn how to deal with rejection and failure. Failure is part of life and shielding children from it to preserve their self esteem is like smothering your child in antibiotics their whole life to protect them from getting sick and then wondering why they have no immune system when they grow up. If a child never learns how to cope with losing and being wrong, when they reach adulthood they don't have the mental faculties to deal with the failure they will invariably encounter in their adult lives. The guy who shot those innocent people in Santa Barbara claims that it was revenge for being rejected by the girls and the popular kids at his college. I was rejected by girls and popular kids my entire life and shooting a bunch of people never entered my mind. Maybe instead of giving our kids a trophy when they lose, we should teach them that losing is a part of life and give them the tools that they need to cope with failure, learn from it, and then get on with their lives.
Just a thought.
I hope this thread doesn't end up in The Place That Shall Not Be Named.
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I would hardly call my experience with the current generation of young adults "anecdotal evidence".
And you're not entertaining any other contributing factors, just the one...
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Maybe not, but the way he dressed and talked, gave off such a "Douche" feel to me.
The BMW just kind of helped solidify that.
Just a thought.
I hope this thread doesn't end up in The Place That Shall Not Be Named.
And this is why I don't post in The Podium anymore... partisan colored glasses make it impossible to communicate because people don't read what you actually write, they just read what they want to see instead. You twisted my argument into something that didn't even remotely resemble what I said and then proceeded to argue against that fantasy argument instead of the argument I actually made. Sigh.
Maybe not, but the way he dressed and talked, gave off such a "Douche" feel to me.
The BMW just kind of helped solidify that.
I didn't read the whole thing, but skimmed and read several pages. It was disturbing. I'm just glad he didn't take out more people before he met his end.
Maybe not, but the way he dressed and talked, gave off such a "Douche" feel to me.
The BMW just kind of helped solidify that.
Aren't the educators of our kids supposed to be open minded and not fall into the trap of preconceived notions?
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I'm just in the age group, so I get his mentality a bit. Maybe his dad just gave him the car for no reason...my parents gave me their old (very nice) car when I graduated from high school to drive to college, which I was very appreciative of.
I don't know..here in SoCal I see my friends with "lesser" cars seem to take better care of it versus those with the expensive luxury cars that whine and bitch because their parents got them a Lexus instead of the Porsche. Cry me a river.