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Santa Barbara murders

12,104 277 May 26, 2014 at 05:56 AM in News (2)
Hundreds gathered at a memorial service Sunday night to mourn six young people killed two nights earlier by a gunman in a California college town.


Elliot Rodger, 22, the son of a Hollywood director, fatally stabbed three people in his apartment before shooting dead three others on Friday in Isla Vista, near the University of California at Santa Barbara campus. He then shot himself.
Rodger killed two women and four men, aged 19 to 22, and wounded 13 people, including eight who he shot as he sped through town in his black BMW, exchanging fire with police, authorities said.
Minutes before opening fire the former community college student emailed his plans to some 30 people including his mother, father and former teachers, said Cathleen Bloeser, whose son was a childhood friend of Rodger and received a copy.
Rodger stated his intention to kill his housemates, lure others to his home to continue the mayhem then slaughter women in a sorority and bring his spree to the streets of Isla Vista.
The manifesto, which details Rodger's fear that his guns might have been discovered when police visited him less than a month ago, was not the first indication of a troubled mind.

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Am I the only one who sees the results of raising a self-esteem based "everyone gets a trophy" generation here? When everyone gets a trophy and every child is constantly told that they are special and everything they do is amazing, they never learn how to deal with rejection and failure. Failure is part of life and shielding children from it to preserve their self esteem is like smothering your child in antibiotics their whole life to protect them from getting sick and then wondering why they have no immune system when they grow up. If a child never learns how to cope with losing and being wrong, when they reach adulthood they don't have the mental faculties to deal with the failure they will invariably encounter in their adult lives. The guy who shot those innocent people in Santa Barbara claims that it was revenge for being rejected by the girls and the popular kids at his college. I was rejected by girls and popular kids my entire life and shooting a bunch of people never entered my mind. Maybe instead of giving our kids a trophy when they lose, we should teach them that losing is a part of life and give them the tools that they need to cope with failure, learn from it, and then get on with their lives.

Just a thought.



I hope this thread doesn't end up in The Place That Shall Not Be Named.

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05-26-2014 at 05:22 PM.
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I actually have a 4.9/5 rating on ratemyprofessor.com right now. I am a tough professor, but I'm fair. And I work really hard to make sure that the ones who want to do well can do that. I remind them when assignments are due. I go over the most important parts of the previous lecture at the beginning of the class. I give them a review before each exam. I spend 2 hours doing a practice problem session before the final. So the ones who are willing to put the work in have every opportunity to do well. I do have my share of slackers who don't put any effort into the class and bomb it, but I haven't had any of them give me crappy ratings. Maybe deep down they know it's their fault they failed and not mine? I don't know. I'm sure that my rating is so high because I'm still fairly new, and it won't last forever, but I'll enjoy it while I can.
Well... Let's be real, who goes to a class about dirt? I imagine those with positive reviews don't care about what others think (and passed your class), while those that failed don't want to admit they took the class (and leave ratings online that confirm it).
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05-26-2014 at 05:23 PM.
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You seem to have quite a conservative philosophy to teaching.
Does everything have to be about politics to you? Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
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05-26-2014 at 05:25 PM.
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You seem to have quite a conservative philosophy to teaching. That's refreshing.

What subject do you teach?
culinary arts. Popcorn

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Does everything have to be about politics to you? Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
he also likes home repairs.
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culinary arts. Popcorn



he also likes home repairs.
Is that cull-inary arts, or cyool-inary arts?
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culinary arts. Popcorn



he also likes home repairs.
And hawt chicks!
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05-26-2014 at 05:28 PM.
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Is that cull-inary arts, or cyool-inary arts?
caw-caw-arts
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And hawt chicks!
totally about the hawt chicks, TR! Cheers
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05-26-2014 at 05:29 PM.
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You seem to have quite a conservative philosophy to teaching. That's refreshing.

What subject do you teach?
Like most people, I guess I don't fit into a simple box with a nice neat label on it. I am a very firm believer in personal responsibility. I believe that you can never grow as a person as long as you insist on blaming others for your own shortcomings. I don't think that makes me "conservative" but if you want to believe that attitude belongs to the conservative philosophy then that is your prerogative.


I teach chemistry and environmental science BTW.

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I think you have had your fill of hate for the day. Maybe it is time for dessert. yummy

Everyone else seems to be having a lot of fun in this thread. It is sad that you have to be so stodgy and bitter. Loosen up a little.
Then stop taunting me. Stick Out Tongue
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Well... Let's be real, who goes to a class about dirt? I imagine those with positive reviews don't care about what others think (and passed your class), while those that failed don't want to admit they took the class (and leave ratings online that confirm it).
I actually haven't even taught a soil science class yet. I'll be teaching my first one in the fall. Our environmental science major is brand new so we are still getting a lot of our lower level courses developed. This fall will be the first time we're offering a higher level environmental science class... I only have 3 people signed up for it so far.
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I actually haven't even taught a soil science class yet. I'll be teaching my first one in the fall. Our environmental science major is brand new so we are still getting a lot of our lower level courses developed. This fall will be the first time we're offering a higher level environmental science class... I only have 3 people signed up for it so far.
so srs
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05-26-2014 at 05:44 PM.
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Then stop taunting me. Stick Out Tongue
Finally you are getting something out of my posts besides what you expect to see. worship

I'm not about hating liberals and I'm not even as conservative as most would believe. It's all about poking people with a stick who you know will respond in an entertaining manner. Liberals just happen to be the most entertaining targets. Stick Out Tongue
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You fo realz, dog?
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