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Santa Barbara murders

12,104 277 May 26, 2014 at 05:56 AM in News (2)
Hundreds gathered at a memorial service Sunday night to mourn six young people killed two nights earlier by a gunman in a California college town.


Elliot Rodger, 22, the son of a Hollywood director, fatally stabbed three people in his apartment before shooting dead three others on Friday in Isla Vista, near the University of California at Santa Barbara campus. He then shot himself.
Rodger killed two women and four men, aged 19 to 22, and wounded 13 people, including eight who he shot as he sped through town in his black BMW, exchanging fire with police, authorities said.
Minutes before opening fire the former community college student emailed his plans to some 30 people including his mother, father and former teachers, said Cathleen Bloeser, whose son was a childhood friend of Rodger and received a copy.
Rodger stated his intention to kill his housemates, lure others to his home to continue the mayhem then slaughter women in a sorority and bring his spree to the streets of Isla Vista.
The manifesto, which details Rodger's fear that his guns might have been discovered when police visited him less than a month ago, was not the first indication of a troubled mind.

Linky [chicagotribune.com]


Am I the only one who sees the results of raising a self-esteem based "everyone gets a trophy" generation here? When everyone gets a trophy and every child is constantly told that they are special and everything they do is amazing, they never learn how to deal with rejection and failure. Failure is part of life and shielding children from it to preserve their self esteem is like smothering your child in antibiotics their whole life to protect them from getting sick and then wondering why they have no immune system when they grow up. If a child never learns how to cope with losing and being wrong, when they reach adulthood they don't have the mental faculties to deal with the failure they will invariably encounter in their adult lives. The guy who shot those innocent people in Santa Barbara claims that it was revenge for being rejected by the girls and the popular kids at his college. I was rejected by girls and popular kids my entire life and shooting a bunch of people never entered my mind. Maybe instead of giving our kids a trophy when they lose, we should teach them that losing is a part of life and give them the tools that they need to cope with failure, learn from it, and then get on with their lives.

Just a thought.



I hope this thread doesn't end up in The Place That Shall Not Be Named.

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J03
05-28-2014 at 06:56 AM.
05-28-2014 at 06:56 AM.
Quote from zzyzzx :
If he had spent his money on prostitutes instead of guns he would have been much happier.
If he had fallen off a cliff the world would have been much happier.
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... and so does Rodgers!
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Favrerox
05-28-2014 at 07:03 AM.
05-28-2014 at 07:03 AM.
Quote from zzyzzx :
If he had spent his money on prostitutes instead of guns he would have been much happier.
Suuuure he would have...
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cupcake42
05-28-2014 at 07:26 AM.
05-28-2014 at 07:26 AM.
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These are really old, pre 1940s..
Wow, It's really awesome to have a chance to talk to someone who has first hand info on things that happened pre 1940s.
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PaintTheSkyGrey
05-28-2014 at 07:53 AM.
05-28-2014 at 07:53 AM.
Quote from Maleficent :
I'm not surprised you're in the club. Are you the secretary?
I though that maybe TP and Rodger were the same person.

Guess not.

Quote from J03 :
When the news reported on these killings did it just report on the killings or did it try to imply that they were a growing national problem despite statistics showing otherwise?
And I think this is a big part of the issue. There's a narrative that is going on in the mass media, and a certain angle they try to push. It's less news and more propaganda.
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Zoe Moon
05-28-2014 at 09:06 AM.
05-28-2014 at 09:06 AM.
Quote from cupcake42 :
Wow, It's really awesome to have a chance to talk to someone who has first hand info on things that happened pre 1940s.
Harhar
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cupcake42
05-28-2014 at 09:29 AM.
05-28-2014 at 09:29 AM.
Quote from Zoe Moon :
Harhar
Kiss
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TariqAbdulWahid
05-28-2014 at 10:05 AM.
05-28-2014 at 10:05 AM.
Quote from dalokgawd :
I would like to point out that there are no guns in World of Warcraft. You may as well blame the fact that he played Super Mario Brothers.

There's bullets in Super Mario Bros...

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cav
05-28-2014 at 10:09 AM.
05-28-2014 at 10:09 AM.
Quote from JiffyLubeRep :
There's bullets in Super Mario Bros...

I always found the hammer throwing turtles more difficult to dodge than the bullets.

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AstroInactive
05-28-2014 at 10:13 AM.
05-28-2014 at 10:13 AM.
Quote from cav :
I always found the hammer throwing turtles more difficult to dodge than the bullets.

What we need is some common sense hammer regulations that will prevent turtles from being able to access hammers...
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TariqAbdulWahid
05-28-2014 at 10:13 AM.
05-28-2014 at 10:13 AM.
Quote from cav :
I always found the hammer throwing turtles more difficult to dodge than the bullets.


yeah they were the worst
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MayorFresto
05-28-2014 at 10:26 AM.
05-28-2014 at 10:26 AM.
Quote from cav :
I always found the hammer throwing turtles more difficult to dodge than the bullets.

Please to do explain how in a 2 dimensional world, the hammers are able to cross the plane of the bricks, yet, they can hit Mario?
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AstroInactive
05-28-2014 at 10:27 AM.
05-28-2014 at 10:27 AM.
Maybe they're ninja...
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05-28-2014 at 10:31 AM.
05-28-2014 at 10:31 AM.
Quote from MayorFresto :
Please to do explain how in a 2 dimensional world, the hammers are able to cross the plane of the bricks, yet, they can hit Mario?
1D bricks.
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J03
05-28-2014 at 10:52 AM.
05-28-2014 at 10:52 AM.
Quote from MayorFresto :
Please to do explain how in a 2 dimensional world, the hammers are able to cross the plane of the bricks, yet, they can hit Mario?
It's actually 3D but only slightly so. The entire world is the width of the bricks plus just enough space for a hammer to fall through on the front side of the bricks but not enough for Mario to slip through. The hammers have a slight curve to them so when thrown they veer slightly inward to hit Mario.
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MayorFresto
05-28-2014 at 10:55 AM.
05-28-2014 at 10:55 AM.
I'm gonna go with the ninja or 1D brick theory. Much easier to understand than ^^
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