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Glasses Lenses Starting to Delaminate - Lab Refusing to Replace Them. What do?

15,176 2,874 October 1, 2014 at 10:55 AM in Help
I need some advice on how to handle a situation with customer service from a company.

I bought some glasses in February of last year. The lenses are now starting to delaminate (the back of the lenses appear to almost be separating from the rest of the lens). Considering how much I paid for the lenses because of my prescription (high-index polycarbonate), I strongly feel like they should last more than a year and a half.

However, the lab that made the lenses is stating that they're now out of warranty because it's been over a year, and that the delamination is probably just due to heat. This is what the optician's office says, anyway. The optician wants me to pay for a new set of lenses and get another eye exam since it's been over a year. My position is that in the 15 years I've been wearing glasses, I've never had this happen. It seems to me like a defect in the lenses or the lab process.

I went back to the optician's office after they called me informing me that the lenses wouldn't be free (after I was assured it was going to be a free replacement). I told them that I'm not sure why they would expect me to continue to use their services if the first time I used them, I'm having issues and they refuse to stand behind their products. They told me that they could have the supervisor from the lens lab call me, and that she could explain it to me. I agreed, and they said that I should get a call from them tomorrow morning.

Am I out of line thinking that I should be able to get a replacement at no cost to me? It doesn't seem like something I should be penalized for. What would be the best way to address this with the supervisor?

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PaintTheSkyGrey
10-01-2014 at 01:52 PM.
10-01-2014 at 01:52 PM.
The couple of times I've tried to wear contacts, I've wound up getting eye infections. Not pleasant. I've stayed away from them since. That, and I was quoted like $300 for the fitting alone last year. EEK!
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emelvee
10-01-2014 at 01:57 PM.
10-01-2014 at 01:57 PM.
wtf? It should be ~$100 for a fitting (on top of the exam fee), and I've only had it done a few times in the 31 years I've been wearing contacts. I'm blind as a bat too, so I get the high index glasses also. I take my contacts out not long after I get home, so I wear them about 12 hours per day (sitting in front of a monitor all day, I can't handle wearing them much longer than that). But my glasses were under $300 - and the crappy ones from zenni were like $70 (those have held up well, but they're backups so I don't wear them much).
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Piccaboo
10-01-2014 at 02:09 PM.
10-01-2014 at 02:09 PM.
Quote from PaintTheSkyGrey :
I'm not talking about everyday wear and tear. If I scratch up my glasses or something that was equally my fault, then that's fine.

However, this appears to be something more like an issue with the lab process. The optician said he's only seen this a couple of times before, and was sure that the lab would replace it for free - only the lab is now refusing because it's stating that it's out of warranty. I think 2-3 years would be more the appropriate lifespan for a pair of glasses, especially on the more expensive end of things.
By any chance were you able to get insurance on the glasses/lenses as we did with hubby's? They have replaced his twice, the limit on the insurance which was minimal compared to paying OOP for replacement lenses. I've been wearing glasses for a long time as well and have never had this happen to a pair of lenses. Though hubby has destroyed his lenses at work. His father had destroyed the anti-glare coating on his; but it was fixed by them removing it; he then went on to scratch the hell out of them Annoyed

I would call Corporate and talk to them; this doesn't sound normal Nono

I've had lenses that have lasted well past 4 yrs, not that I wear the same script that long; but they are in that good of condition nod
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marg_fan
10-01-2014 at 02:10 PM.
10-01-2014 at 02:10 PM.
Quote from Zoe Moon :
Did you leave them in a hot car? That's the only reason I can think of that a high end set of lenses would delaminate.

DH always buys Carl Zeiss lenses and he's never had trouble with his. You might want to look into that brand for your next set of lenses. He has really bad eyesight too.
Can't be too bad. He found you didn't he? Cool
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PaintTheSkyGrey
10-01-2014 at 02:13 PM.
10-01-2014 at 02:13 PM.
Quote from emelvee :
wtf? It should be ~$100 for a fitting (on top of the exam fee), and I've only had it done a few times in the 31 years I've been wearing contacts. I'm blind as a bat too, so I get the high index glasses also. I take my contacts out not long after I get home, so I wear them about 12 hours per day (sitting in front of a monitor all day, I can't handle wearing them much longer than that). But my glasses were under $300 - and the crappy ones from zenni were like $70 (those have held up well, but they're backups so I don't wear them much).
What's your prescription strength? I was told it would be that much because of my astigmatism and the strength of the contacts. It may have been around $250, thinking about it. But it was still up there enough to like, really surprise me.
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10-01-2014 at 02:16 PM.
10-01-2014 at 02:16 PM.
Quote from marg_fan :
Can't be too bad. He found you didn't he? Cool
Maybe he couldn't see well enough to escape. Secret

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10-01-2014 at 02:26 PM.
10-01-2014 at 02:26 PM.
I think Boltman highly recommends Lasik...

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Zoe Moon
10-01-2014 at 02:35 PM.
10-01-2014 at 02:35 PM.
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Can't be too bad. He found you didn't he? Cool
Whenever DH says I'm pretty, I tell him, thank goodness for your bad eye doctor!
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redjen910
10-01-2014 at 02:46 PM.
10-01-2014 at 02:46 PM.
I paid $50 for a fitting 3 yrs ago. My new eye doc didn't charge me anything. I'm in the high -6 range with astigmatism as well. And my eyes are two different Rxs as well.
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PaintTheSkyGrey
10-01-2014 at 02:50 PM.
10-01-2014 at 02:50 PM.
Quote from redjen910 :
I paid $50 for a fitting 3 yrs ago. My new eye doc didn't charge me anything. I'm in the high -6 range with astigmatism as well. And my eyes are two different Rxs as well.
Scratchchin

I'm in the 7s, but that shouldn't make a huge difference. Sounds like I might need to find a new optician.
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J03
10-01-2014 at 02:56 PM.
10-01-2014 at 02:56 PM.
If they don't make things right I would definitely go elsewhere and use a different brand. What more can you do besides that? Out of warranty is out of warranty.
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redjen910
10-01-2014 at 03:05 PM.
10-01-2014 at 03:05 PM.
Quote from PaintTheSkyGrey :
Scratchchin

I'm in the 7s, but that shouldn't make a huge difference. Sounds like I might need to find a new optician.
No, it shouldn't. Generally anything over the 5 range gets the surcharge for being a strong Rx. $50 was a Walmart (only place in town that accepted my insurance) and I was peeved I had to pay for another fitting because they discontinued my old brand of lenses. The free fitting was at Costco.

And I seem to remember being told a higher RX had a greater chance of delaminating the last time I bought specs. Got a BOGO deal (if $500 was a deal) and bought one polycarb set and one standard plastic set as my back up. The glasses are now super old and the polycarb set has some very tiny, verticle lines on the bottom of both lenses. I also find that the polycarb lenses sacrifice some visual acuity for their thinness. Not sure if I'll get them again when I replace these. I did one wire rimmed pair with polycarb and one plastic, faux tortoiseshell with plastic lenses if that helps your comparison.
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teenbean
10-02-2014 at 08:00 AM.
10-02-2014 at 08:00 AM.
I wasn't sure by your post if the back coating or the front coating was coming off. Can't help you with your warranty, but this is what i can tell you based off my 2 years of working in a lab and "helping people see better one hour at a time".

I can tell you that polycarbonate lenses are easily scratched - so after the back of the lens is grounded down to your prescription then they have to coat the back. They don't normally coat the back of regular plastic lenses or high index lenses, unless you paid extra for anti-reflective or something.


With your high of prescription, I would suggest getting high index lenses next time and staying away from the poly. I have -8 prescription and that is what I would get if I bought new glasses. Since I wear my contacts 95% of the day, I just bought a cheap pair online so that I could walk from the bathroom to the bed, lol.
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Kolto
10-02-2014 at 08:43 AM.
10-02-2014 at 08:43 AM.
Quote from teenbean :
I wasn't sure by your post if the back coating or the front coating was coming off. Can't help you with your warranty, but this is what i can tell you based off my 2 years of working in a lab and "helping people see better one hour at a time".

I can tell you that polycarbonate lenses are easily scratched - so after the back of the lens is grounded down to your prescription then they have to coat the back. They don't normally coat the back of regular plastic lenses or high index lenses, unless you paid extra for anti-reflective or something.


With your high of prescription, I would suggest getting high index lenses next time and staying away from the poly. I have -8 prescription and that is what I would get if I bought new glasses. Since I wear my contacts 95% of the day, I just bought a cheap pair online so that I could walk from the bathroom to the bed, lol.
agree with teenbean here, i haven't used polycarb lens since i graduated high school.

My vision's prob one of the worst here on SD, -13.00 right eye -13.50 left eye.

i got my latest ones done in Taiwan, Nikon High Index 1.74 lenses. I think they cost $235.00. Got them last January.

I got a set from lenscrafters back in 2011, they were CR39 1.67 lenses. They're obviously thicker than my High Index and don't have the same clarity. Now i dunno if this is because of the nikon lenses being better, but both have the anti-reflect coating and anti-scratch.

Cheapest place to get lenses done are at BJs or Costco, they use normal CR39 lenses and are very cheap, you can get a pair of lenses for $100.
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10-02-2014 at 08:46 AM.
10-02-2014 at 08:46 AM.
Quote from PaintTheSkyGrey :
Scratchchin

I'm in the 7s, but that shouldn't make a huge difference. Sounds like I might need to find a new optician.


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