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Raddish's Dining Room Remodeling Project *UPDATE* #138, with a pic! Fresh paint and completed chair rail. Still have to do beauty boxes.

32,000 3,053 February 7, 2008 at 07:30 PM in Cameras
This project has been on the Honey-do list since the day we moved into this house back in August of 2005. Our dining room is pretty hideous. The previous owners used it as an office and cut holes in the walls, etc.

The color on the walls is nice, but that's the only good thing to say about it, really.

So far we haven't done much except replace the stupid little light that was in the room with a chandelier we got on Amazon.com for $26. It's stainless and matches the rest of the lights in the house, so we like it. We were considering buying a nearly identical chandelier from Lowe's for like $350, and honestly we like that one a bit better, for for $26 for the one we got we really couldn't be much happier. Smilie

So since I got laid off from my job I figured I'd take almost two weeks off before starting the new job and tackle this project. First up is priming the walls and removing the awful head-cap from over the window.

Next is pulling up the carpet and staples and removing the baseboards.

Then I'll either install the hardwood or fix all the holes in the walls, not sure which direction I'll go next, but both will hopefully be done by the end of next week.

Later, I'll be wainscoting the dining room, but I have to pick a pattern first. I'm not sure what I want to do just yet.

I also intend to install an in-wall display case for my wife's butterfly art. This will also include some new lighting to show off her collection. That'll probably happen before the wainscoting, and indeed may even drive the wainscoting design.

I've uploaded a few pictures of what I am starting with. I'll post more as I go along, just like before. Smilie

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02-11-2008 at 07:58 PM.
02-11-2008 at 07:58 PM.
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Isn't that the molding?
Indeed, it is a type of molding. Smilie
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02-11-2008 at 08:01 PM.
02-11-2008 at 08:01 PM.
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Indeed, it is a type of molding. Smilie
Oh ok...thanks.

Is your floor made of wood? Or is that something you have put on top of your slab? (I'm referring to the pics where you have the carpet and the pad removed)
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02-11-2008 at 08:05 PM.
02-11-2008 at 08:05 PM.
Our house is on a crawlspace, so the wood you see is the 3/4" subfloor nailed directly to the joists.

I'll tape down some rosin paper to go between the subfloor and the 3/4" pre-finished hardwood that I'll start installing tomorrow. The purpose of the rosin paper is to reduce noise, and especially 'squeaks' that arise from friction between the subfloor and the hardwood.

There will always be some amount of 'creaks' in any hardwood floor, but the rosin paper goes a long way to removing the high-pitched 'squeaks' you hear when walking across some older hardwood floors.
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02-11-2008 at 08:13 PM.
02-11-2008 at 08:13 PM.
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Huh W0t is that circle thing?
it's a tofu burger....kinda looks like the tofu blocks they have at subway...vomit
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02-11-2008 at 08:15 PM.
02-11-2008 at 08:15 PM.
Quote from Pig :
Oh ok...thanks.

Is your floor made of wood? Or is that something you have put on top of your slab? (I'm referring to the pics where you have the carpet and the pad removed)
We have cement under our carpet pad but we only have one level. My sister's house has wood like that under the flooring on the 2nd story.
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hathor
02-11-2008 at 08:42 PM.
02-11-2008 at 08:42 PM.
Looks neat!

Quote from The Raddish :
The purpose of the rosin paper is to reduce noise, and especially 'squeaks' that arise from friction between the subfloor and the hardwood.

There will always be some amount of 'creaks' in any hardwood floor, but the rosin paper goes a long way to removing the high-pitched 'squeaks' you hear when walking across some older hardwood floors.
How do you get floors to stop squeaking if they already are? Our house is 100 years old and I am fairly certain they didn't have the wherewithal to install rosin paper first.

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02-11-2008 at 09:13 PM.
02-11-2008 at 09:13 PM.
I've actually heard a lot of people recommend roofing paper instead of rosin because its cheaper and thicker.
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02-11-2008 at 09:21 PM.
02-11-2008 at 09:21 PM.
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it's a tofu burger....kinda looks like the tofu blocks they have at subway...vomit
Huh Tofu burger? Nono2 I don't eat things that pose as other things. Be what you are, I say! woot
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02-12-2008 at 02:28 PM.
02-12-2008 at 02:28 PM.
OOO!! FUN! I got my degree in interior design (not decorating, but designing floorplans/furniture layouts, etc.) but haven't really used it except for my own house. I opened a restaurant instead. Anywho.. I am glad the dining room is no longer red, because red increases hunger and agitation. Can't wait to hear what color you are leaning towards!
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02-12-2008 at 02:38 PM.
02-12-2008 at 02:38 PM.
On This Old House, they said that a lot of squeaks can be eliminated by screwing the subflooring to the joists in more places. They even had this cool tool that screwed through the carpeting and then broke just inside the floorboard so you couldn't see it or step on it.

If you have to wait a few days to put down the flooring, why not paint first? Then you don't have to worry about dripping.
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02-12-2008 at 04:21 PM.
02-12-2008 at 04:21 PM.
Yeah, I've placed a few screws in 'squeaky' places, but there really weren't too many in the dining room.

As for painting first, no can do. One, we haven't decided on a color yet. Two, I am doing wainscoting first so I don't want to paint where the wainscot will be. Also, I have tons of plastic I can put down so I'm not too worried about dripping.

I am at a standstill at the moment though. The distributor for the hardwood I am using has gone out of business. The retailer I buy the wood from can't find another distributor for this region, so he's going to get me a different brand of wood and allow me to trade in the extra that I already have. I'll probably pick up the new wood tomorrow (if it's not raining), but then it has to acclimate in the house for at least three days before I start installing it.

So I'm dead in the water for the time being. That sucks since I have this time on my hands. I may look into doing the recessed wall shelving while I'm on a forced 'break'.
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02-12-2008 at 04:25 PM.
02-12-2008 at 04:25 PM.
What this concept about wood having to acclimate in the house before installing?
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02-12-2008 at 04:31 PM.
02-12-2008 at 04:31 PM.
Wood expands and contracts with temperature. It also expands and contracts with relative humidity.

The conditions the wood has been exposed to in a warehouse are likely much different than the conditions in a house. So, in order to prevent gaps and bowing during installation, it takes about three days for the wood to 'stabilize' in it's new environment.
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02-12-2008 at 04:34 PM.
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Quote from The Raddish :
Wood expands and contracts with temperature. It also expands and contracts with relative humidity.

The conditions the wood has been exposed to in a warehouse are likely much different than the conditions in a house. So, in order to prevent gaps and bowing during installation, it takes about three days for the wood to 'stabilize' in it's new environment.
Is this pre-finished, self-adhesive wood?
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02-12-2008 at 04:50 PM.
02-12-2008 at 04:50 PM.
Pre-finished, yes. But I'll be nailing it down, not gluing it.

Just like this project.
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