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So What Does Everyone Think About Deflate-Gate?

25,141 707 January 22, 2015 at 12:50 PM in Sporting Goods
The title says it. What does everyone think about this bizarre "Deflate-Gate" deal that is far more interesting that this year's Super Bowl? Belichick reaffirmed that he knew nothing at all about the football preparation and denied having anything to do with it.

Tom Brady is supposed to be talking publicly very soon and may be admitting to arranging to have the footballs prepped to the way he likes them.

So, is this a big deal? Is this something that happens with pretty much every team and it has just become public?

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01-22-2015 at 02:07 PM.
01-22-2015 at 02:07 PM.
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I know that. The people talking about weight need to be told that. laugh out loud
I had people on facebook saying how 2lbs was a lot. I'm like dude, imagine how they feel throwing 12lb footballs. Bigeye
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01-22-2015 at 02:09 PM.
01-22-2015 at 02:09 PM.
Obama was just asked about this controversy in a press conference.

He said "I think if you like your football you should be able to keep your football. If you like your air pressure you should be able to keep your air pressure."
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01-22-2015 at 02:32 PM.
01-22-2015 at 02:32 PM.
Quote from Iaaaiws :
I haven't heard the actual quote from Rodgers, just that he prefers an over-inflated ball and thinks that the league should just set a minimum pressure and not have a maximum pressure. Did he actually say that he ever arranged to have a ball inflated beyond what the rules allow after they were inspected?
He said that he does over-inflate the gameballs and the refs take the air out to bring it within the limits.

Quote from Iaaaiws :
Obama was just asked about this controversy in a press conference.

He said "I think if you like your football you should be able to keep your football. If you like your air pressure you should be able to keep your air pressure."
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01-22-2015 at 02:35 PM.
01-22-2015 at 02:35 PM.
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Yup. However, as a Pats fan I hate to see shit like this. I was embarrassed during Spygate, and this just sucks again, except it looks like a second infraction, which just helps to tarnish Brady and Belichick's legacy in the NFL.
I saw a great quote: the only thing deflated was Luck's ego

laugh out loud
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01-22-2015 at 03:07 PM.
01-22-2015 at 03:07 PM.
The balls being under-inflated isn't a big deal. The pattern of cheating is. Goodell is going to over-punish the Patriots after failing to properly discipline Ray Rice. I expect them to lose all their drafts picks this year, probably a million dollar fine and Belichick is going to get a lengthy suspension.
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01-22-2015 at 03:16 PM.
01-22-2015 at 03:16 PM.
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The balls being under-inflated isn't a big deal. The pattern of cheating is. Goodell is going to over-punish the Patriots after failing to properly discipline Ray Rice. I expect them to lose all their drafts picks this year, probably a million dollar fine and Belichick is going to get a lengthy suspension.
There won't be a lengthy suspension, but there will be fines and draft pick losses, I bet. If anything, you can probably expect a couple game suspension in the Fall for Belichick.
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01-22-2015 at 03:22 PM.
01-22-2015 at 03:22 PM.
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There won't be a lengthy suspension, but there will be fines and draft pick losses, I bet. If anything, you can probably expect a couple game suspension in the Fall for Belichick.
Sean Payton got a year suspension for the bounty program. With Belichick being a repeat cheating offender, I'd assume it would be at least half a season suspension.
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01-22-2015 at 03:25 PM.
01-22-2015 at 03:25 PM.
Quote from vec :
This is only an issue because it's the Patriots. How many QBs came out this week and said that they "customize" their game balls? Rodgers flat out admitted that he hates when the refs take the extra air out after he overfills the game balls. He might win MVP this year and that statement isn't headlines because he doesn't play for the Patriots.

Bottom line, if the league didn't want QBs setting up their game balls then they wouldn't give the footballs back to the team after the inspection. Unfortunately they are now stuck between a rock and a hard place.
What you describe Rodgers as doing isn't illegal. He hasn't tampered with already approved game balls, he has prepped his balls for inspection and they sometimes don't pass. He is unhappy afterwards, he has not said he then TAMPERS with those balls. There's a huge difference.

All in all, I don't think this particular offense is anything to go crazy over, but it's part of an overall pattern of cheating that has come out of this franchise, and I personally think at some point, there has to be penalties that exceed fines and draft picks. Take a win away and watch how they stop cheating.
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01-22-2015 at 03:54 PM.
01-22-2015 at 03:54 PM.
I think this is all just for the upcoming all new episode of Archer tonight at 10p EST/9p CST.

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Sean Payton got a year suspension for the bounty program. With Belichick being a repeat cheating offender, I'd assume it would be at least half a season suspension.
one was proven to have involvement, the other has not. player safety for intentionally targeting players to injure them is far worse, at least IMO, than having a football at 9.5psi versus 11.5-12.5...
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01-22-2015 at 04:09 PM.
01-22-2015 at 04:09 PM.
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Roughing up the ball is actually allowed, just has to have the right amount of air. Go figure. laugh out loud
That's what he said...Coverlaugh

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vd3D2gsPUR0
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01-22-2015 at 04:10 PM.
01-22-2015 at 04:10 PM.
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I think this is all just for the upcoming all new episode of Archer tonight at 10p EST/9p CST.



one was proven to have involvement, the other has not. player safety for intentionally targeting players to injure them is far worse, at least IMO, than having a football at 9.5psi versus 11.5-12.5...
As Goodell said to the Saints, "Ignorance is not an excuse". They don't need to prove he had involvement.

Obviously safety is the bigger issue, but the fact that Belichick is a repeat offender leads me to believe he's going to bring the hammer down on him.
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01-22-2015 at 04:11 PM.
01-22-2015 at 04:11 PM.
Quote from Iaaaiws :
Obama was just asked about this controversy in a press conference.

He said "I think if you like your football you should be able to keep your football. If you like your air pressure you should be able to keep your air pressure."
If Obama had a football it would look just like these underinflated footballs...
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01-22-2015 at 04:12 PM.
01-22-2015 at 04:12 PM.
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That's what he said...Coverlaugh

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vd3D2gsPUR0
haha someone posted that on my FB earlier laugh out loud
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01-22-2015 at 04:14 PM.
01-22-2015 at 04:14 PM.
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What you describe Rodgers as doing isn't illegal. He hasn't tampered with already approved game balls, he has prepped his balls for inspection and they sometimes don't pass. He is unhappy afterwards, he has not said he then TAMPERS with those balls. There's a huge difference.

All in all, I don't think this particular offense is anything to go crazy over, but it's part of an overall pattern of cheating that has come out of this franchise, and I personally think at some point, there has to be penalties that exceed fines and draft picks. Take a win away and watch how they stop cheating.
Um wrong ,he just got his reversed because they caught it prior. If it was caught at halftime, would you feel the same and think it was ok?

No one knows if it happened after, no one knows if the refs checked it and it passed. That's all assumptions.
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01-22-2015 at 04:30 PM.
01-22-2015 at 04:30 PM.
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Um wrong ,he just got his reversed because they caught it prior. If it was caught at halftime, would you feel the same and think it was ok?

No one knows if it happened after, no one knows if the refs checked it and it passed. That's all assumptions.
Actually it is a huge difference. Hoping they don't catch the over-inflation during the inspection is far less severe than waiting until after the inspection and then altering the footballs that have already been approved. In that case it would be the refs failing at their job and it is on them. Kind of like a lineman getting away with holding because nobody saw it happen.

In the case at hand, if it turns out the balls were already under-inflated and it was missed during the inspection then I wouldn't fault anybody on the Patriots. I would like to hear directly from the individual who actually inspected the balls in the first place and see if they seem credible or not.
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