So What Does Everyone Think About Deflate-Gate?

Paint makes a pretty good argument that the attendant could have indeed deflated all of the footballs in the 90 seconds he was in the bathroom. The guy in the video did the deflation 12 times. The fact that he missed two balls and did two of them twice actually supports why one of the game balls was two pounds low, one was fully inflated, and the rest were one pound low. In the rush the experimenter missed two footballs. In the rush the attendant missed one. Plausible.

As far as the single person bathroom--the experiment was done in a single stall. Pretty good chance that a full bathroom with a sink and maybe both a toilet and a urinal would be larger than a single stall with just a toilet, even allowing that the stall appeared to be a larger handicapped stall.

The attendant would have had 24 balls with him but I'm sure they wouldn't be all mixed together in one bag. So while taking up a little more space I wouldn't think it would be much of a hindrance. Just toss the other bag off to the side and get to the deflation.

The 77 seconds falls well under the 90 seconds the attendant was in the bathroom. For the experiment they had determined that it took 2.2 seconds to deflate the football by 2psi. So the guy deflating the football is estimating that time when he is deflating each football. Granted, that is a pretty difficult task.

However, there is a huge margin of error built in to the experiment already. As we have already heard the actual footballs from the game were deflated only 1psi, with one apparently not deflated at all and one deflated 2psi, as previously discussed. So, if it takes 2.2 seconds to deflate the football 2psi, it is reasonable that it likely takes about 1.1 seconds to deflate the football 1psi. At least that should be close enough for this experiment. So the guy in the video was shooting for 2.2 seconds. Even if in reality he only held the pin in each ball for around half of his desired time, it should have been long enough to let out 1psi.

It would have been nicer if they had shown the actual pressure in the footballs after the test, but you really can't shoot down the results just because you don't like the argument. It isn't conclusive, but I think the experiment indeed shows it would be possible for the attendant to deflate all twelve balls in 90 seconds.

Myth not yet busted.

Paint makes a pretty good argument that the attendant could have indeed deflated all of the footballs in the 90 seconds he was in the bathroom. The guy in the video did the deflation 12 times. The fact that he missed two balls and did two of them twice actually supports why one of the game balls was two pounds low, one was fully inflated, and the rest were one pound low. In the rush the experimenter missed two footballs. In the rush the attendant missed one. Plausible.

That's the hilarious part about it, Paint's obviously a pats fanboy and he was actually arguing against the 90-second deflation theory as being plausible. He went in circles so many times that he ended up building a case against himself!

That's the hilarious part about it, Paint's obviously a pats fanboy and he was actually arguing against the 90-second deflation theory as being plausible. He went in circles so many times that he ended up building a case against himself!

Um, I really don't even follow football all that much. And I'm on the East Cost, but pretty much as far south as you can go on it, so no geographic ties either.

As I've said before in this thread, it just sounds like a manufactured controversy that's over some silly shit that's easily explained by a simple scientific explanation that has also been proven via videotaped experiments.

Yeah that's cool man, enjoy the asterisk.

Why would I care about an asterisk?

Sounds like you're butthurt about your team getting dominated by the Pats. That's the only reason I can figure you'd be spewing this vitriol.

You aren't fooling anybody fanboi.

PAintTheSkygrey

What would the math work out to if a game were being played somewhere that was actually cold instead of 50F?

Let's go back to the "Ice Bowl" where the temperature was -15F. If the rule had been in place back then what would the initial pressure have to have been set at to keep the ball above the !2.5psi on the field?

Nothing to do with this controversy, I'm just curious if it is even realistically possible to stay within the rules. There are many games played at temperatures right around freezing or in the twenties.

80F vs -15F is a ~ 17% drop. A pre-inflated 13.5 PSI ball would be down to 8.5 PSI; 12.5 to 7.7.

Belicheat said that spygate didn't give them any advantage. Then why cheat? Let's remember Belicheat was a career assistant besides the time he was pretty bad as head coach of the Browns. Let's also remember that Brady was a life long back up pretty much.

Now let's remember that the patriots started 10-0 in the playoffs and 3-0 in the super bowl Bradys first 5 years before spygate. Between spygate and coming into this year the Patriots went 8-8 in the playoffs and 0-2 in the super bowl.

Usually quarterbacks and coaches get better with experience. Really weird that they were far far more successful before getting caught cheating the first time.

The article I posted the other day showed that until 2007 the patriots were below average in fumble protection. In 2007 and since they flipped a switch and have been BY FAR the best at protecting against fumbles in the history of the league.

We all know they Patriots cycle through so many players. How can they be historicly the best at protecting against fumbles every year regardless off who is even on the field for them?

A deflated ball really helps the quarterback but helps every player get a better grip on the ball, running backs receivers and quarterbacks.

Deflated balls = less fumbles for the team in addition to better control and accuracy on the passes.

Look up the Patriots record since Belicheat in the second half of the season, especially at home. Its far better than their first half. Why?

Because that's when the weather is colder and they have a bigger advantage because they are deflating balls. Deflated balls are really important when its cold because the balls semi freeze and are hard to grip.

don't both sides use the same ball? If not, that's the problem.