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02-04-2015 at 11:10 AM.
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02-04-2015 at 11:38 AM.
02-04-2015 at 11:38 AM.
I'd bet that if they had given it the Lynch first and he fumbled the ball, ppl all over probably would be arguing about how they still had 3 downs and a TO left with about 60 seconds left and should have tried a pass since the Pats were in goal formation! LOL
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02-04-2015 at 02:19 PM.
02-04-2015 at 02:19 PM.
Quote from PaintTheSkyGrey :
So a 4ypc average means... They never stopped him?

And I see you ignored my very relevant and telling question.

Say, how many of those 3 TDs they had were thrown in?
They stopped him for no gain exactly twice. All game. What telling question did I overlook? One of the two times, ALL GAME, that the cheaters were able to stop him? There is no doubt, in my mind and many others, that one of the best , if not the best, running backs in the league would ahve gotten the less than one yard needed to get a touchdown in that situation. Especially given that they had three attempts at it. Hell, Wilson was also able to run consistently against the cheaters whenever he wanted to.
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02-04-2015 at 02:43 PM.
02-04-2015 at 02:43 PM.
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They stopped him for no gain exactly twice. All game. What telling question did I overlook? One of the two times, ALL GAME, that the cheaters were able to stop him? There is no doubt, in my mind and many others, that one of the best , if not the best, running backs in the league would ahve gotten the less than one yard needed to get a touchdown in that situation. Especially given that they had three attempts at it. Hell, Wilson was also able to run consistently against the cheaters whenever he wanted to.
Would you say that use of PEDS is considering cheating? Would it be considered worse than say spying on your opponents signals which is actually a widely used practice in all sports?

Why do you keep referring the Pats as "cheaters" when Seattle players have been suspended for PED use?

I'm not even a Pats' fan...I dislike them actually. But just give it a rest.
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02-04-2015 at 02:56 PM.
02-04-2015 at 02:56 PM.
Or, how about this? Would you consider it ethical or cheating if a team keeps signing short contracts for players that are released by a division rival in order to get team secrets and play info? Because, Seattle does that all the time with Niner players. They sign those players to get info from them about the Niners and then release them!

Also, when did Lynch become the best RB in the NFL? I recall a player in Dallas having far more rushing yds this year....another in Pittsburg outrushed him too, I think. Sure, Lynch is good. But I don't recall any discussion of him being the best back all year. D Murray always took up that discussion all season.
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02-04-2015 at 05:56 PM.
02-04-2015 at 05:56 PM.
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They stopped him for no gain exactly twice. All game. What telling question did I overlook? One of the two times, ALL GAME, that the cheaters were able to stop him? There is no doubt, in my mind and many others, that one of the best , if not the best, running backs in the league would ahve gotten the less than one yard needed to get a touchdown in that situation. Especially given that they had three attempts at it. Hell, Wilson was also able to run consistently against the cheaters whenever he wanted to.
1) It required more than "less than one yard".
2) If he is so guaranteed to get that "less than one yard", why wasn't he able to power through and make it that last half-yard before being stopped?
3) Why did they have to take a field goal instead of running it into the endzone?
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02-04-2015 at 05:59 PM.
02-04-2015 at 05:59 PM.
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Or, how about this? Would you consider it ethical or cheating if a team keeps signing short contracts for players that are released by a division rival in order to get team secrets and play info? Because, Seattle does that all the time with Niner players. They sign those players to get info from them about the Niners and then release them!

Also, when did Lynch become the best RB in the NFL? I recall a player in Dallas having far more rushing yds this year....another in Pittsburg outrushed him too, I think. Sure, Lynch is good. But I don't recall any discussion of him being the best back all year. D Murray always took up that discussion all season.
Let's also not forget about those pesky fines Carroll and the PEDHawks were levied for illegal practice procedures last year. And that little ol' USC championship that he was stripped of.

Yeah, a little air in a football is way worse. Filming a team from an improper location (not that it was prohibited, just from that location) is way worse.
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02-04-2015 at 07:59 PM.
02-04-2015 at 07:59 PM.
Quote from jeepdog :
They stopped him for no gain exactly twice. All game. What telling question did I overlook? One of the two times, ALL GAME, that the cheaters were able to stop him? There is no doubt, in my mind and many others, that one of the best , if not the best, running backs in the league would ahve gotten the less than one yard needed to get a touchdown in that situation. Especially given that they had three attempts at it. Hell, Wilson was also able to run consistently against the cheaters whenever he wanted to.
Lynch was actually stopped for a one-yard gain or less four times in the game. When you get down that close to the end zone when the defense is in their goal line formation, it's usually harder to gain that 1-2 yrds.

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Let's also not forget about those pesky fines Carroll and the PEDHawks were levied for illegal practice procedures last year. And that little ol' USC championship that he was stripped of.

Yeah, a little air in a football is way worse. Filming a team from an improper location (not that it was prohibited, just from that location) is way worse.
Agreed.....but I wouldn't bring up the USC sanctions because it was only due to Reggie Bush's family getting free loans from an agent that wanted to sign him. So, not really Carroll's fault.
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02-04-2015 at 11:09 PM.
02-04-2015 at 11:09 PM.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Harvar...6951612416

On third or fourth and short Lynch was 17 out of 20 converting, 85%.
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02-05-2015 at 12:54 AM.
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Quote from fireballs :
https://mobile.twitter.com/Harvar...6951612416

On third or fourth and short Lynch was 17 out of 20 converting, 85%.
Just to let you know, this stat is a bit misleading because it's not situational. It's converting on 3rd or 4th and short anywhere on the field. When you get down near the goal line, it's much tougher.

Looking into his split stats in 2014, it does show that in the opponents' 1-10 yd line, he's carried the ball 29 times and have scored 11 times. That would be nice if someone figured out how many times he's had the ball at the 1-2 yd line and was able to convert it into a TD.
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02-05-2015 at 01:03 AM.
02-05-2015 at 01:03 AM.
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Just to let you know, this stat is a bit misleading because it's not situational. It's converting on 3rd or 4th and short anywhere on the field. When you get down near the goal line, it's much tougher.

Looking into his split stats in 2014, it does show that in the opponents' 1-10 yd line, he's carried the ball 29 times and have scored 11 times. That would be nice if someone figured out how many times he's had the ball at the 1-2 yd line and was able to convert it into a TD.
So that's around 36% within the 10. Do you think if they ran it all three downs they would have gotten it in?

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02-05-2015 at 01:22 AM.
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Ok, I just went through the entire 2014 season....all regular season and playoff games for Seattle. Lynch was given the ball 5 times the entire season at the opponent's 1 yard line....he only scored ONCE in five tries.

So, I'm just saying that it's not "automatic" as many ppl are making it out to be if he was given the ball at the 1 yard line.Smilie
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02-05-2015 at 01:41 AM.
02-05-2015 at 01:41 AM.
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Ok, I just went through the entire 2014 season....all regular season and playoff games for Seattle. Lynch was given the ball 5 times the entire season at the opponent's 1 yard line....he only scored ONCE in five tries.

So, I'm just saying that it's not "automatic" as many ppl are making it out to be if he was given the ball at the 1 yard line.Smilie
You went through all that work to post something that is old news? laugh out loud

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Interesting statistic:

Marshawn Lynch had 5 previous runs from the 1 this season and had scored only one touchdown.
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02-05-2015 at 02:05 AM.
02-05-2015 at 02:05 AM.
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Lynch was actually stopped for a one-yard gain or less four times in the game. When you get down that close to the end zone when the defense is in their goal line formation, it's usually harder to gain that 1-2 yrds.
Quote from z2g :
Just to let you know, this stat is a bit misleading because it's not situational. It's converting on 3rd or 4th and short anywhere on the field. When you get down near the goal line, it's much tougher.
Just saying it is tougher to run near the goal line is also misleading and meaningless unless you also mention that it is also far tougher to pass near the goal line. Receivers can't run their normal pass routes because there is less room to work and the defenders have less field to defend.

I'll still take three runs by Lynch inside the 1 any day rather than risk an interception. No matter what anybody is claiming they had plenty of time to run 3 plays.
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02-05-2015 at 02:19 AM.
02-05-2015 at 02:19 AM.
Quote from PaintTheSkyGrey :
If they chose to run the ball, Lynch may have scored.
If Butler wasn't as perceptive, they would have scored a touch down.
If Lynch had turned on "Beast Mode" and not stopped at .5 yards from the end zone, it would have been a TD.
If ifs and ands were pots and pans...
Iagree
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