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Seahawks or Patriots? Who are you rooting for?
January 30, 2015 at
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Who are you rooting for on Superbowl Sunday?
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Marshawn Lynch had 5 previous runs from the 1 this season and had scored only one touchdown.
Marshawn Lynch had 5 previous runs from the 1 this season and had scored only one touchdown.
When you only have one ace in the hole... And it's very obvious what that ace is, it's easy to defensively prepare for it. So that actually doesn't seem too surprising when I put on my critical thinking hat. But I still would have run with it. You had four tries.
Edit: Predicted Edelman with the winning TD, too.
When you only have one ace in the hole... And it's very obvious what that ace is, it's easy to defensively prepare for it. So that actually doesn't seem too surprising when I put on my critical thinking hat. But I still would have run with it. You had four tries.
Yep I still would have run it. I'm an old-school real football fan where you win or lose in the trenches. Line it up with Lynch, say this is what we've got--try to stop it. No tricks, no deception, no signal stealing, no deflated footballs, no trying to confuse the defense with player substitutions. Just down and dirty football like it is supposed to be.
Yep I still would have run it. I'm an old-school real football fan where you win or lose in the trenches. Line it up with Lynch, say this is what we've got--try to stop it. No tricks, no deception, no signal stealing, no deflated footballs, no trying to confuse the defense with player substitutions. Just down and dirty football like it is supposed to be.
I was also seeing where people were talking about Bellychick not calling for a TO is probably what put a ton of pressure on... Because without that TO, it leaves Seattle with only one, and if Lynch can't make it twice, game over. So it was a gutsy call that seems to have paid off in the end. Maybe on purpose, maybe not.
He later elaborated on the play call.
"We're going to leave them no time, and we had our plays to do it," Carroll said, according to a seattlepi.com report [seattlepi.com]. "We sent in our personnel, they sent in goal-line (package) — it's not the right matchup for us to run the football — so on second down we throw the ball really to kind of waste a play. … If we score, we do. If we don't, then we'll run it in on third and fourth down."
Good look at the hard count that led to the encroachment penalty.
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http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/p...set/nj24p/
http://grantland.com/the-triangle...-seahawks/
http://grantland.com/the-triangle...-seahawks/
That, coupled with Belichick not using his TO gave the Seahawks about 25 seconds (plus a TO), which would only equate to about two runs. I've seen stats where they pass around 40% of the time in that situation. Belichick knew he was probably looking for a pass in one of the next two plays, and had actually trained his team for it. Butler said in a post-game interview that the route was exactly what they had practiced on, and he actually allowed the TD in practice.
It's almost like people are turning this from a Patriots success to a Seahawks just handing them the game. If you look at the replays, dude looked wide open. But because Belichick had trained for that exact scenario, Butler knew exactly what to do and where to go. Because Belichick didn't take the TO, it forced a pass play in one of the next plays. The Pats had already stopped Lynch several times near the endzone. Giving it to him was not a guarantee, either.
Without the training, without the defensive strategy, without the foresight of Butler, the Seahawks would have won with that play. To try and blame Carroll or the OC takes away from the skill of the Pats in playing the better game of chess in that situation.
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