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31,994 3,053 January 30, 2016 at 01:16 PM in Sporting Goods
So I started Couch to 5K this year, and today I begin week 4, day 1. I'm finding this to be easier overall than I expected it to be.

Who here runs religiously, and what advise do you have to give to someone just starting out, such as myself?

Motivation is not a problem. I find myself looking forward to each run so far.

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03-12-2016 at 01:27 PM.
03-12-2016 at 01:27 PM.
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03-12-2016 at 03:30 PM.
03-12-2016 at 03:30 PM.
12-minute pace is not shabby at all, especially for someone just getting started.
Great job, sir!! Applause
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redjen910
03-12-2016 at 08:17 PM.
03-12-2016 at 08:17 PM.
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Can you point me to the C25K schedule? I can help you understand it better if I see it. I was a high school/ college runner and coached for about 8 years. Was coached by a world record holder for a while.
Llama Llama any recommendations on shin splints? I get horrible shin splits with any speed of outdoor running but don't seem to ever get them on a treadmill. I've been told various things from run slower to stretching beforehand and nothing helps.
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03-12-2016 at 08:49 PM.
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Llama Llama any recommendations on shin splints? I get horrible shin splits with any speed of outdoor running but don't seem to ever get them on a treadmill. I've been told various things from run slower to stretching beforehand and nothing helps.
So basically you want to strengthen the muscle that's on the front of your leg, below the knee. To find it, you can flex it by lifting your toe straight up and you should feel it with your hand on the outside of each shin bone.

There are a few ways to strengthen this muscle. One is to sit in bed and trace out the alphabet with your toes. This is a good one to start with, but after a short time you'll be strong enough that you won't really feel a few trips through the alphabet any more. Another (more effective but harder) is to run backwards up a short hill. You may want to try this after you've done the alphabet exercises for awhile.
To do this, you need to make sure your form is good, which means that you'll want to be on the balls of your feet and really push off of your toes. You should be really reaching back with the other foot, kind of exaggerated. You don't need a terribly long hill to do this, just enough to make you feel it. Your quads will feel it too.

If understanding helps, shin splints is kind of a catch all term. Normally, what happens is that people who aren't used to running have relatively strong calf muscles, but the front one (tibialis anterior) will be very weak relative to your calf. So as you go running along, the front muscle gets exhausted far before your calves (or the rest of your leg muscles for that matter) do. So basically you're running on an exhausted muscle for a period of time far longer than you would if your quad or other major muscle group got that tired. As a result, it can get very very sore. And at its worst, that muscle can actually start to tear away from the bone - that's real shin splints, but not what most people actually get. Most people just get the soreness from a weak muscle being asked to do too much.

Outside of exercise, ice is your friend here; you can ice after every run and if you have the time once in the morning as well. You can get a foam roller and kneed out the muscle when it feels sore. You can also just do this with your thumbs or a tennis ball. And of course, hydrate.

Also note that this isn't something that you'll need to keep up indefinitely. As long as you're running pretty consistently, once that muscle is strong enough you should be able to stop the exercises and not feel it anymore.

One question: What surface are you running on outdoors?
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03-12-2016 at 09:05 PM.
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Quote from The Llama :
So basically you want to strengthen the muscle that's on the front of your leg, below the knee. To find it, you can flex it by lifting your toe straight up and you should feel it with your hand on the outside of each shin bone.

There are a few ways to strengthen this muscle. One is to sit in bed and trace out the alphabet with your toes. This is a good one to start with, but after a short time you'll be strong enough that you won't really feel a few trips through the alphabet any more. Another (more effective but harder) is to run backwards up a short hill. You may want to try this after you've done the alphabet exercises for awhile.
To do this, you need to make sure your form is good, which means that you'll want to be on the balls of your feet and really push off of your toes. You should be really reaching back with the other foot, kind of exaggerated. You don't need a terribly long hill to do this, just enough to make you feel it. Your quads will feel it too.

If understanding helps, shin splints is kind of a catch all term. Normally, what happens is that people who aren't used to running have relatively strong calf muscles, but the front one (tibialis anterior) will be very weak relative to your calf. So as you go running along, the front muscle gets exhausted far before your calves (or the rest of your leg muscles for that matter) do. So basically you're running on an exhausted muscle for a period of time far longer than you would if your quad or other major muscle group got that tired. As a result, it can get very very sore. And at its worst, that muscle can actually start to tear away from the bone - that's real shin splints, but not what most people actually get. Most people just get the soreness from a weak muscle being asked to do too much.

Outside of exercise, ice is your friend here; you can ice after every run and if you have the time once in the morning as well. You can get a foam roller and kneed out the muscle when it feels sore. You can also just do this with your thumbs or a tennis ball. And of course, hydrate.

Also note that this isn't something that you'll need to keep up indefinitely. As long as you're running pretty consistently, once that muscle is strong enough you should be able to stop the exercises and not feel it anymore.

One question: What surface are you running on outdoors?
Any outdoor surface has the same effect it seems; dirt trail, asphalt, cement sidewalk, school track. And I'm not a runner because of this.
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03-12-2016 at 09:11 PM.
03-12-2016 at 09:11 PM.
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Any outdoor surface has the same effect it seems; dirt trail, asphalt, cement sidewalk, school track. And I'm not a runner because of this.
Strengthen that muscle and you'll be amazed.
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The Raddish
03-17-2016 at 08:21 PM.
03-17-2016 at 08:21 PM.
So yesterday I ran 3.21 miles in 36:51 for an average pace of 11:28.

I run a real 5K on Saturday, like an actual race in which I had to register and stuff. It's being put on by a sorority at my Alma Mater, so this should be fun!
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03-18-2016 at 04:09 AM.
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So yesterday I ran 3.21 miles in 36:51 for an average pace of 11:28.

I run a real 5K on Saturday, like an actual race in which I had to register and stuff. It's being put on by a sorority at my Alma Mater, so this should be fun!
Yer a monster, dude. Keep up the good work. nod
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03-18-2016 at 03:45 PM.
03-18-2016 at 03:45 PM.
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2.55 miles
30:17 total time
11:52 pace

This was on my own this time, without my 'coach' to pace. woot
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Oh! Looks like I forgot to post my actual 5K info from Wednesday!

3.27 miles
41:05 total time
12:34 pace

I took it a bit slower and easier as the goal was to actually run a full 5K. I did it!
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03-19-2016 at 06:45 PM.
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Today I ran a 5K. It was very hilly, by far the most change in altitude of any of my runs so far.

3.16 mi
36:58 total time
11:43 min/mi pace
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03-19-2016 at 09:16 PM.
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Today I ran a 5K. It was very hilly, by far the most change in altitude of any of my runs so far.

3.16 mi
36:58 total time
11:43 min/mi pace
Was this the race, or another training run?
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03-20-2016 at 08:06 AM.
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Was this the race, or another training run?
This was a race. woot
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03-20-2016 at 02:32 PM.
03-20-2016 at 02:32 PM.
Nice. Did you like the race atmosphere? Do you think the fact that it was a race helped you to run the faster pace?
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03-21-2016 at 05:10 PM.
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It's running related, and I'd have never guessed the farker could do it. shake head



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