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HP Pavilion Power 15.6: i7-7700HQ, 1050 GTX (2gb), 8 GB, 1 TB, and FHD IPS for $699. You need a .edu email for the additional $100 off (normally $799). It's MICROCENTER, so YMMV.

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A few good deals on i7-7700HQ's with 1050 GTX GPUs out there:

2 laptops for the same price at $699 (after student .edu discount) with similar specs: i7-7700HQ, 1050 GTX (2gb), 8 GB, and either 1 TB (the HP Power) or 256 GB (ASUS).

For the HP Power, you can find a similar model on HP with 12 GB and an additional 256 m.2 for $1,050. It's lightweight, doesn't look like a complete gaming rig (except that green), and has good battery power for it's class. http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-...15-cb041nr

There's an additional i7-7700HQ, but a 950M, 8 GB and 256 GB ASUS for $650 after student .edu discount.

http://www.microcenter.com/search...183+269167
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collinpark
07-25-2017 at 02:11 PM.
07-25-2017 at 02:11 PM.
thats a good deal,
bit on the heavy side and dinosaur hard disk are the only drawbacks
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Fxck
07-25-2017 at 02:16 PM.
07-25-2017 at 02:16 PM.
Quote from collinpark :
thats a good deal,
bit on the heavy side and dinosaur hard disk are the only drawbacks

2GB video card is a downer for games
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collinpark
07-25-2017 at 02:24 PM.
07-25-2017 at 02:24 PM.
Quote from Fxck :
2GB video card is a downer for games
Quote from Fxck :
2GB video card is a downer for games
it's not the worst, the screen on the machine is 1080p, if you max everything out and turn on aa on max and stuff you might require something like ~3.4GB. but by that point you'll probably start melting some of the solder points in the laptop.

for mid-high settings you'll be fine with 2gb, imo. the kind of gaming that doesnt melt your laptop
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shadow1227
07-25-2017 at 03:41 PM.
07-25-2017 at 03:41 PM.
Quote from collinpark :
thats a good deal,
bit on the heavy side and dinosaur hard disk are the only drawbacks
Is 4.9 lbs heavy? I mean, I've seen most configs with similar specs at 5.5+ lbs, outside of things like the Lenovo 720 and XPS series (which add $400+ more to this total).
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JohnnyHustle209
07-25-2017 at 04:37 PM.
07-25-2017 at 04:37 PM.
Quote from collinpark :
it's not the worst, the screen on the machine is 1080p, if you max everything out and turn on aa on max and stuff you might require something like ~3.4GB. but by that point you'll probably start melting some of the solder points in the laptop.

for mid-high settings you'll be fine with 2gb, imo. the kind of gaming that doesnt melt your laptop

I'm a newbie to graphics cards, what's better or more powerful, a GTX 980 or GTX 1050 or 1060? I know the 900 series is last gen & the 1000 series is current gen, which would suggest that the 1050 is more powerful or better than the 980, but I've seen the 980 with more VRAM, so how does one determine which is more powerful or better?
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shadow1227
07-25-2017 at 06:53 PM.
07-25-2017 at 06:53 PM.
Quote from Jmurder209 :
I'm a newbie to graphics cards, what's better or more powerful, a GTX 980 or GTX 1050 or 1060? I know the 900 series is last gen & the 1000 series is current gen, which would suggest that the 1050 is more powerful or better than the 980, but I've seen the 980 with more VRAM, so how does one determine which is more powerful or better?

1060 is kind of the premium standard for laptop GPUs. The 1050 is solid, but limited by the 2 GB (they did create a 1050 ti which solves that problem at 4 GB). The 980 is solid, but the other 2 are considered "desktop" grade. Basically it's the GPU that you'd find in desktops, not the little mobile GPUs that you normally see in laptops (940MX).

In regards to VRAM, just like RAM, the more you have, the more you can do. In essence, the 1050 is somewhat limited, but still plenty powerful in what it can so. Like mentioned above, for moderate-high gaming, you should have no problems with the 1050, unless you're pushing max/ultra settings and brightness, etc.
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rs8389
07-25-2017 at 08:22 PM.
07-25-2017 at 08:22 PM.
Quote from shadow1227 :
1060 is kind of the premium standard for laptop GPUs. The 1050 is solid, but limited by the 2 GB (they did create a 1050 ti which solves that problem at 4 GB). The 980 is solid, but the other 2 are considered "desktop" grade. Basically it's the GPU that you'd find in desktops, not the little mobile GPUs that you normally see in laptops (940MX).

In regards to VRAM, just like RAM, the more you have, the more you can do. In essence, the 1050 is somewhat limited, but still plenty powerful in what it can so. Like mentioned above, for moderate-high gaming, you should have no problems with the 1050, unless you're pushing max/ultra settings and brightness, etc.
The 1050 and 1060 may be desktop grade, but the 980M outperforms the 1050 by a pretty wide margin. The 1060 is marginally better than the 980M, but both the 1050 and 1060 should do much better for power consumption.

As for this deal, the HP looks like it has an IPS panel as opposed to the really bad TN panel that the ASUS FX series laptops ship with... Adding an M.2 SSD to the HP should be a much easier upgrade than upgrading the ASUS screen to an IPS panel.
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JohnnyHustle209
07-25-2017 at 11:43 PM.
07-25-2017 at 11:43 PM.
Quote from shadow1227 :
1060 is kind of the premium standard for laptop GPUs. The 1050 is solid, but limited by the 2 GB (they did create a 1050 ti which solves that problem at 4 GB). The 980 is solid, but the other 2 are considered "desktop" grade. Basically it's the GPU that you'd find in desktops, not the little mobile GPUs that you normally see in laptops (940MX).

In regards to VRAM, just like RAM, the more you have, the more you can do. In essence, the 1050 is somewhat limited, but still plenty powerful in what it can so. Like mentioned above, for moderate-high gaming, you should have no problems with the 1050, unless you're pushing max/ultra settings and brightness, etc.

But I'm not taking about mobile laptop version vs desktop version, like a 980m vs 1050. Can you tell me the difference between a 980m vs 1050m or the desktop 980 vs 1050? Thanks for the feedback.
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collinpark
07-26-2017 at 03:34 AM.
07-26-2017 at 03:34 AM.
Quote from Jmurder209 :
I'm a newbie to graphics cards, what's better or more powerful, a GTX 980 or GTX 1050 or 1060? I know the 900 series is last gen & the 1000 series is current gen, which would suggest that the 1050 is more powerful or better than the 980, but I've seen the 980 with more VRAM, so how does one determine which is more powerful or better?
pure performance wise, 980 is better than the 1060 or 1050
the naming convention follows generation + x0, where 80 is the best, and higher the x, the more shaders it has
the more shaders a gpu has the better,
generation has differing node size so newer generation gpus are more efficient.
generally previous generation 70 is similar in performance to the new gen 60s
so 970 3GB falls behind the 1060 6gb in most cases but is almost equivalent to the 1060 3GB.

the best bang for your buck is 1060, if you have money to spare, go for 1080.
I personally have AMD 580, because freesync is cheaper than gsync and i like to optimize performance per buck

feel free to ask if you have more questions.

an easy way to compare performance of these cards is to look at benchmarks
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JohnnyHustle209
07-26-2017 at 06:29 AM.
07-26-2017 at 06:29 AM.
Quote from collinpark :
pure performance wise, 980 is better than the 1060 or 1050
the naming convention follows generation + x0, where 80 is the best, and higher the x, the more shaders it has
the more shaders a gpu has the better,
generation has differing node size so newer generation gpus are more efficient.
generally previous generation 70 is similar in performance to the new gen 60s
so 970 3GB falls behind the 1060 6gb in most cases but is almost equivalent to the 1060 3GB.

the best bang for your buck is 1060, if you have money to spare, go for 1080.
I personally have AMD 580, because freesync is cheaper than gsync and i like to optimize performance per buck

feel free to ask if you have more questions.

an easy way to compare performance of these cards is to look at benchmarks

Thanks a lot, somebody finally explained it to me in terms that make sense, now I get it. I don't know why NVIDIA does it this way, it's like their going out of their way to be hard to make sense of. How about AMD, is their numbering set with normal parameters, where as the RX580 is better than RX480 & then 380 & so on & so on?
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rebthor2
07-27-2017 at 07:35 AM.
07-27-2017 at 07:35 AM.
Quote from Jmurder209 :
But I'm not taking about mobile laptop version vs desktop version, like a 980m vs 1050. Can you tell me the difference between a 980m vs 1050m or the desktop 980 vs 1050? Thanks for the feedback.
For this generation, there's no difference in Nvidia's lineup between desktop and laptop. That is to say there's no difference between a 1050 desktop version and a 1050 laptop version. The laptop version might have a lower power envelope which might mean that it more aggressively throttles and slows down but they are otherwise identical. In the past there was a significant difference between the desktop and laptop chips so a 960m in a laptop really trailed a 960 on the desktop. The change that Nvidia has made is part of the reason why a 1050 laptop meets or beats a 970m in most games even though it still trails a 970 desktop.
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NoSleep007
07-29-2017 at 11:28 AM.
07-29-2017 at 11:28 AM.
Wow this is a good deal and it's so tempting but I'll wait for the Ryzen mobile.
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