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396 18 August 15, 2017 at 12:04 PM
I have little knowledge on security cameras. I am in the process of purchasing a home in NYC and want to install 4 or more cameras, both outer and inside facing.

Looking for something that will be wireless, wifi, and the ability to record footage. Also looking to be able to monitor from my phone.

Not looking to spend more than $300 on a setup.

I was looking at Zmodo however I am hearing they are moving to a cloud based setup which eventually will require subscription, etc.

Any other suggestions?
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08-15-2017 at 12:24 PM.
08-15-2017 at 12:24 PM.
Quote from paradigmGT :
I have little knowledge on security cameras. I am in the process of purchasing a home in NYC and want to install 4 or more cameras, both outer and inside facing.

Looking for something that will be wireless, wifi, and the ability to record footage. Also looking to be able to monitor from my phone.

Not looking to spend more than $300 on a setup.

I was looking at Zmodo however I am hearing they are moving to a cloud based setup which eventually will require subscription, etc.

Any other suggestions?
You might want to see what has been discussed in the tech support forum
https://slickdeals.net/newsearch.php?forumchoice%5B%5D=17&q=security+cameras&showposts=0
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Novakingwai
08-15-2017 at 01:29 PM.
08-15-2017 at 01:29 PM.
For around $300 you could get a Ruger SR9, they're pretty nice. Of course since you're in NY the price will probably jump to $700.

They're wireless, don't run on battery. No subscription necessary, just have to clean it every once in a while.
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08-15-2017 at 02:00 PM.
08-15-2017 at 02:00 PM.
Quote from Novakingwai :
For around $300 you could get a Ruger SR9, they're pretty nice. Of course since you're in NY the price will probably jump to $700.

They're wireless, don't run on battery. No subscription necessary, just have to clean it every once in a while.
It wont help you when your shit goes missing. Then again, a security cam might not either.
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VorlonFrog
08-15-2017 at 02:24 PM.
08-15-2017 at 02:24 PM.
Don't expect quality video through a wireless/wifi connection. You will be disappointed. Look to Dahua or Hikvision cameras for best quality, best firmware, and best reliability. Finally, visit and read the Dahua and Hikvision forums at ipcamtalk.com [ipcamtalk.com].

Right now, the Dahua "starlight" cameras are the best thing going for outdoor security. Inside the house, the Hikvision "cube" cameras are small and extremely reliable.
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komondor
08-15-2017 at 06:37 PM.
08-15-2017 at 06:37 PM.
I have a Reolink 4K 5G camera for the outside and it works really well. I have it send the video to my FTP server and email me a snapshot of any sensed motion. I have a couple of Canary cameras that I like since they include temp and air quality. You need to pay for storage but it is not that bad and if you need to use it in court it can be proved that you did not change it. I am not sure how footage I had on my PC would be going into court. I also have a Yi Home camera that streams to my phone and I am sure it could be set up for FTP or email alerts it keeps an eye on my rabbits.
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08-17-2017 at 02:10 PM.
08-17-2017 at 02:10 PM.
Quote from paradigmGT :
I have little knowledge on security cameras. I am in the process of purchasing a home in NYC and want to install 4 or more cameras, both outer and inside facing.

Looking for something that will be wireless, wifi, and the ability to record footage. Also looking to be able to monitor from my phone.

Not looking to spend more than $300 on a setup.

I was looking at Zmodo however I am hearing they are moving to a cloud based setup which eventually will require subscription, etc.

Any other suggestions?
I have just the thing for a home in NYC that needs more cameras. Kindly provide address & i'll take care of it most expediently. God bless!
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08-19-2017 at 09:44 AM.
08-19-2017 at 09:44 AM.
I've had some good experiences with Unifi Video. Their UVC-Micro is wifi and pretty small and unobtrusive. I think they're not selling the first gen anymore, and are about to release the second gen.

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08-19-2017 at 10:29 AM.
08-19-2017 at 10:29 AM.
Quote from PaintTheSkyGrey :
I've had some good experiences with Unifi Video. Their UVC-Micro is wifi and pretty small and unobtrusive. I think they're not selling the first gen anymore, and are about to release the second gen.

Dontknow
Hadn't seen that one before. Thanks Paint! If it's by Ubiquiti Networks, then the wifi ought to be solid. My experience with the Hikvision cube cameras is their wifi capabilities stink and a wired LAN cable is a necessity. I blame it on the "antenna array" PCB module they used instead of a film/metal strip with a U.FL cable to connect to the PC board. Frown
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08-29-2017 at 08:54 AM.
08-29-2017 at 08:54 AM.
I went and purchased 3 of YI Home Camera Wireless IP cameras today just to get me started. I will try and mount them in the windows to face outside for a temporary setup and have them record to MicroSD and send me a stream to my phone.

I am thinking of going with an NVR setup with outdor cameras as a permanent setup...need to figure out which is a good bang for buck. Trying to avoid subscription based services.
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hackyourlife
08-30-2017 at 11:41 AM.
08-30-2017 at 11:41 AM.
i currently use nest cam for indoors and outdoors granted they can start to add up but you wont have to worry about matienance and other glitches !!
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08-30-2017 at 12:55 PM.
08-30-2017 at 12:55 PM.
Quote from paradigmGT :
I went and purchased 3 of YI Home Camera Wireless IP cameras today just to get me started. I will try and mount them in the windows to face outside for a temporary setup and have them record to MicroSD and send me a stream to my phone.

I am thinking of going with an NVR setup with outdor cameras as a permanent setup...need to figure out which is a good bang for buck. Trying to avoid subscription based services.
If you place them indoors pointing out the windows, it's highly likely you'll get IR reflections flooding back into the camera, from the window glass. Disable the automatic IR and place an IR light source outside.
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09-08-2017 at 11:52 AM.
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Quote from hackyourlife :
i currently use nest cam for indoors and outdoors granted they can start to add up but you wont have to worry about matienance and other glitches !!
Does nest have free cloud service? Does it record locally to a memory card?
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09-08-2017 at 11:53 AM.
09-08-2017 at 11:53 AM.
Quote from VorlonFrog :
If you place them indoors pointing out the windows, it's highly likely you'll get IR reflections flooding back into the camera, from the window glass. Disable the automatic IR and place an IR light source outside.
Thats exactly what is happening with the reflection; ill need to disable the automatic IR as you described.
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hackyourlife
09-08-2017 at 12:05 PM.
09-08-2017 at 12:05 PM.
Quote from paradigmGT :
Does nest have free cloud service? Does it record locally to a memory card?
they do have cloud storage but its not free, there are 2 options as well a phone or tablet it can record up to 2 mintues when it tracks movements on a computer its up to 60 mintues : detals = https://nest.com/support/article/...r-Nest-Cam

A subscription that covers 10 days of continuously recorded video costs $10 a month or $100 a year for the first camera. Each additional camera costs $5 a month or $50 a year. A 30 day history costs $30 a month for the first camera, or $300 for the year.Jul

I don't pay for the service my brother is a computer/software engineer with a masters degree so I installed all the nests indoor/outdoor, but then he wired all of them to record on my NAS server which is roughly 10TB so after I believe after 5 years or so it automatically deletes old footage or once I review it. and nest doesn't record constantly it only starts recording once there is a movement which is really sensitive as well, even when my dog moves in his sleep it starts recording which is good and bad.
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