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Amex offer: $2,500 statement credit for home refinance Better.com

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Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

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I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.
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Must have an amex to add offer to your account. Details:

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American Express® Card Member with an exclusive mortgage offer from Better.com
Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

https://www.americanexpress.com/u...-OfferHub2

EDIT information from Better.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello,
I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.

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Jul 9, 2020
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MilesHunter
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Are people getting below 3% without having to do escrow? I don't want to escrow as I have more than 20% equity in my home.
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flyeaglesfly33
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flyeaglesfly33
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Quote from brat7705 :
Sounds reasonable if the taxes are due next month!
Quote from SDRebel :
same here. my tax escrow in the previous LEs looked pretty damn low, but then on the closing disclosures it went up a lot (by thousands...) then on the day before closing it went down by about $2000...it's a bit messy, but oh well
(I think it all boils down to escrow amounts)
Even if I am not escrowing? It just seems odd to me that I have to prepay something that will not exist?
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sleekwallet
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Quote from flyeaglesfly33 :
Even if I am not escrowing? It just seems odd to me that I have to prepay something that will not exist?
if you are not doing impound you shouldn't pay anything related to it
Last edited by sleekwallet July 9, 2020 at 09:58 AM.
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Phasers
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Quote from flyeaglesfly33 :
Even if I am not escrowing? It just seems odd to me that I have to prepay something that will not exist?
If you are not doing escrow they need to remove it.

Looks like they think you are doing escrow.
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CurryFishBalls
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Quote from k1ngkev1n1 :
has anyone confirmed you dont need an email from amex or offer to get this deal as long as you have an amex card/account? I havent gotten any email or offer, but i have the amex preferred card and blue cash.

thanks,
Amex chat saying I don't need email.
Better is saying otherwise.. still trying to confirm
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k1ngkev1n1
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Quote from MilesHunter :
Are people getting below 3% without having to do escrow? I don't want to escrow as I have more than 20% equity in my home.
im waiting on loan cabins LE but they did 2.625% 30 yr, no escrow. 235k

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k1ngkev1n1
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Quote from CurryFishBalls :
Amex chat saying I don't need email.
Better is saying otherwise.. still trying to confirm
wonder if amex has any kind of protocol we need to get the credit... like a note on the application or something. Or i think someone said better has to notifiy amex or something.
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flyeaglesfly33
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Quote from sleekwallet :
if you are not doing impound you should pay anything related to it
Quote from Phasers :
If you are not doing escrow they need to remove it.

Looks like they think you are doing escrow.
Okay thanks that's what I thought. I am pushing back with my closing agent now. He first responded with, "Prepaids are dues that will need to be collected on taxes and/or insurance that are up for renewal by the end of your first month's payment. The title company collects this and then disbursed the funds to the appropriate party on your behalf. " but I am waiting to hear back after I asked him to have these removed.
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MilesHunter
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Quote from k1ngkev1n1 :
im waiting on loan cabins LE but they did 2.625% 30 yr, no escrow. 235k
You have almost exact same specs as me. Got 238 on my loan right now. I just did this offer back in april, but that rate makes me want to jump again.
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Quote from flyeaglesfly33 :
I just received my initial closing disclosures and it includes a bunch of costs that have not been in my previous LEs. I do not have an escrow but in section F "Prepaid" they are charging 3 months worth of Home Owners Insurance (I pay this bill monthly) and 12 months worth of taxes (these are due 8/31 and also this amount is higher than the due amount). Is this common?
flyeaglesfly33 - Escrow is actually determined under RESPA laws, and should be the same whether you go with one vendor or another.

The RESPA law states that a lender may (read may as will) keep a cushion of 2 months of escrow as the lowest point during the year.

So, what you need do is go through and look at when Homeowners, taxes, and any other escrow items (HOA/Mortgage insurance) come out, and figure that your $$ comes in on the first and budget when the money goes out. You should aggregate that by month, and then see what month is your lowest balance. That "lowest balance" needs to be the equivalent of two months of your escrow payments. Your initial deposit will need to ensure that the low point is 2-months balance.

Additionally, since it can take up to 45-60 days for the mortgage to be sold and settle at a servicer, the lender is going to protect themselves and require you to bring taxes to the closing table. Since your mortgage collateral is "in limbo" until it is recorded in your county's records, their official "lien" on the property cannot be enforced until that point. So, to protect themselves, they require you bring the taxes to the table to ensure that the taxing authorities cannot place a lien against your house before their lien is filed. Once the mortgage is filed, the "title insurance" that they have would be in alignment with what you agreed to in the course of underwriting, and thus any future tax liens would be subjected to the terms of the mortgage document filed with the county.

Does that help at all? Effectively, escrow prepaids/taxes/insurance should be the same amount of money whether you refinance at better.com or at any other lender, with the same closing date.
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KaatuPaadi
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How u guys managing to close a loan with between when it is difficult to talk to any of your contacts ???
What if the appraisal came low and u got a new sale price and to adjust and all the stuff if you cant talk to nobody other than the rep who pickup the call and tell u the contact is busy or in meeting or out of office???
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sleekwallet
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Quote from KaatuPaadi :
How u guys managing to close a loan with between when it is difficult to talk to any of your contacts ???
What if the appraisal came low and u got a new sale price and to adjust and all the stuff if you cant talk to nobody other than the rep who pickup the call and tell u the contact is busy or in meeting or out of office???

what?
I went through the whole process in 10 days without talking to anyone, all by email and the better webpage.

I don't understand what you are trying to say
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Quote from k1ngkev1n1 :
wonder if amex has any kind of protocol we need to get the credit... like a note on the application or something. Or i think someone said better has to notifiy amex or something.
There have been many people that didn't have an email from AMEX that applied through the link that got the credit. You just have to make sure to have Better send you a task towards closing to provide your AMEX details. Better sends the info to AMEX and you'll get your credit within 8-12 weeks.

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Quote from MilesHunter :
You have almost exact same specs as me. Got 238 on my loan right now. I just did this offer back in april, but that rate makes me want to jump again.
get an offer from loan cabin see what they give you. watermark was 2.75% no points as well.

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