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expiredGreenworld123 posted Dec 08, 2019 02:27 PM
expiredGreenworld123 posted Dec 08, 2019 02:27 PM

Amex offer: $2,500 statement credit for home refinance Better.com

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Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

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I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.
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Must have an amex to add offer to your account. Details:

Unlock even more as an
American Express® Card Member with an exclusive mortgage offer from Better.com
Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

https://www.americanexpress.com/u...-OfferHub2

EDIT information from Better.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello,
I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.

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Jul 26, 2020 08:51 PM
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nicemannJul 26, 2020 08:51 PM
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Quote from ptmtctetpstmstcstest :
NMLS trick worked - found a few agents. Smilie
Awesome, good luck. I had a few PMs that method worked well for them also.
Jul 26, 2020 09:44 PM
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redearthJul 26, 2020 09:44 PM
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after locking with better at 2.75 I have been calling everyone quicken gave me 2.25 with CC at 5K. I can match with better but cc is way too much.
Even after 2500 amex.. still 2.5K from my pocket.
still debating..
Jul 26, 2020 09:57 PM
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nicemannJul 26, 2020 09:57 PM
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Quote from redearth :
after locking with better at 2.75 I have been calling everyone quicken gave me 2.25 with CC at 5K. I can match with better but cc is way too much.
Even after 2500 amex.. still 2.5K from my pocket.
still debating..
15 or 30 year?
Jul 26, 2020 09:59 PM
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ZwitterionJul 26, 2020 09:59 PM
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Quote from HarryS4062 :
a) Your loan alone could change hands
b) your loan servicing alone could change hands
c) your loan and loan servicing could change hands.
All these are not necessarily because of a refi and you have no control over when or who it will change to. It all depends on the current investor deciding to sell or change the servicing company.
TMS is a servicer but in some case also holds the loan as well most times temporarily when you refi through better.com and sometime for longer. In most cases a servicor change is the only one that affects the end users like us. Who holds the loan is very little consequence to you and me. When servicors change outside of a refi - that is when the scenario I mentioned will be a messy for the borrowers like us.
I understand all of the above. My question was how it gets messy and what specific situation this nightmarish scenario stems from. My loans have had servicer changes several times and they were always smooth.
Jul 26, 2020 10:05 PM
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ZwitterionJul 26, 2020 10:05 PM
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Quote from pkg4133 :
I just locked my rate with them and they said that they can't compete on rates once the rates are locked. Did you threaten to withdraw the application to get them to match another offer after locking the rate?
Better counterintuitively seems to try harder to match after you've locked. I suspect it is because they've invested time and effort to close the deal. The best price match I got was a day before I got me closing disclosure. I had even told my rep to hold off on sending me the CDs by one day because I was about to submit a competing LE and they obliged.

There is no threatening to withdraw.
Last edited by Zwitterion July 26, 2020 at 03:10 PM.
Jul 26, 2020 10:10 PM
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ZwitterionJul 26, 2020 10:10 PM
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Quote from dealshunter09 :
Got better to match 2.625 30 year with 5000 lender credit + 2500 amex
What competing lender gave your that rate? That is fantastic. I have the same credit but at 2.75. I think you have the best deal I've ever seen here.
Jul 26, 2020 10:18 PM
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ZwitterionJul 26, 2020 10:18 PM
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Quote from Alex8919 :
One more, you need lock the rate in one month. If you applied today, you need lock the rate before 8/25. And close the loan by 10/28
The beauty of Better is that they accept price-matching after the lock. So if worst comes to worst, lock on day 29 to keep the application alive and then pray rates tank so you can price-match down before closing. They are giving 45 day locks which gives you a lot of time. I close tomorrow and still have 30 days on my lock. I had confirmed with Better and they charge the same fee for a 30/45 day lock (I had asked because there was no choice available to me, and I would have chosen a 30 day lock for better pricing, as is the case everywhere else but Better).

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Jul 26, 2020 10:52 PM
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redearthJul 26, 2020 10:52 PM
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Quote from nicemann :
15 or 30 year?
15 year
Jul 26, 2020 10:53 PM
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redearthJul 26, 2020 10:53 PM
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What happens if I withdraw the app with better do i loose my 550 which I paid
Jul 26, 2020 10:56 PM
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nicemannJul 26, 2020 10:56 PM
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Quote from redearth :
15 year
Check out https://hightechlending.mortgagew...CheckRates

Not sure what your information but if I put my information in for a 15 year a 2.25% comes back at has a lender credit of $294. Click on view details and you will see your cost breakdown. My estimated cost is right around $2,500 so would be a break even if I did that. I just did a 30 year so I'm not. So I would not even consider Quicken if you are wanting to go that way. Get yourself a LE and see what Better will do with it.
Last edited by nicemann July 26, 2020 at 03:59 PM.
Jul 27, 2020 12:16 AM
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sowhatwegetdrunkJul 27, 2020 12:16 AM
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Quote from Deals_bob :
Shahhere - Do you know what is the maximum lender credit does better.com can provide ?
I received 6K from a lender a year ago on my purchase
Jul 27, 2020 01:25 AM
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HarryS4062Jul 27, 2020 01:25 AM
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Quote from Zwitterion :
I understand all of the above. My question was how it gets messy and what specific situation this nightmarish scenario stems from. My loans have had servicer changes several times and they were always smooth.
When servicing changed from TMS to another servicer in the first year of the loan, what I said earlier happened: the loan balance did not get transferred to the new servicor - the original loan amount is what got transferred at least initially. Then 3 to 6 weeks later the payments I made to TMS (I believe it was 3 months worth of payments) showed up in two batches - first the regular payments and then the extra payments (which I had made with each of the monthly payments).
Jul 27, 2020 03:23 AM
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LetsgogogoJul 27, 2020 03:23 AM
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Quote from sowhatwegetdrunk :
I received 6K from a lender a year ago on my purchase
Was this from better tho?
Jul 27, 2020 03:45 AM
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SomeXYZJul 27, 2020 03:45 AM
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Quote from redearth :
What happens if I withdraw the app with better do i loose my 550 which I paid
Obviously

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Jul 27, 2020 04:07 AM
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SiennaDeer8270Jul 27, 2020 04:07 AM
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Quote from redearth :
What happens if I withdraw the app with better do i loose my 550 which I paid
How do you loose money?

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