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expiredGreenworld123 posted Dec 08, 2019 02:27 PM
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Amex offer: $2,500 statement credit for home refinance Better.com

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Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

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I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.
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Must have an amex to add offer to your account. Details:

Unlock even more as an
American Express® Card Member with an exclusive mortgage offer from Better.com
Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

https://www.americanexpress.com/u...-OfferHub2

EDIT information from Better.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello,
I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.

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Aug 03, 2020 10:16 PM
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Mikey122687Aug 03, 2020 10:16 PM
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I was told by Better that the application expires 30 days after first applied if I don't "lock in rate". Does anyone know if this is true or not?
Aug 03, 2020 10:16 PM
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MarkB2914Aug 03, 2020 10:16 PM
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Put in a Loan cabin estimate last Tuesday at 2.625 with ABC covered. Hadn't heard a peep from better and checked today and my LE is now 2.5% with 750 credit so I will take that all day! Anyone else find the payoff amount on better significantly higher then actual? I"m showing 297.5 and there at 300.5 just seems weird to me. 298k Loan, 70%ltv, colorado.
Aug 03, 2020 10:22 PM
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tran1981Aug 03, 2020 10:22 PM
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Quote from MarkB2914 :
Put in a Loan cabin estimate last Tuesday at 2.625 with ABC covered. Hadn't heard a peep from better and checked today and my LE is now 2.5% with 750 credit so I will take that all day! Anyone else find the payoff amount on better significantly higher then actual? I"m showing 297.5 and there at 300.5 just seems weird to me. 298k Loan, 70%ltv, colorado.
How much are your ABC?
Aug 03, 2020 10:31 PM
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MarkB2914Aug 03, 2020 10:31 PM
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Quote from tran1981 :
How much are your ABC?
1450 abc with 750 credit fyi.
Aug 03, 2020 10:47 PM
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CycloneFWAug 03, 2020 10:47 PM
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Quote from shahhere :
If anyone has done this or knows about it let me know:
Should I pay my current lender's monthly mortgage or let the interest get rolled in during close as I should fund before the 15th.


Until I fund I'll be paying interest at the higher current rate one way or another I think?


Lastly, if i have to bring say 4,000 or 5,000 Better will allow a Cashier's check? I know Radian is ok.


Shahhere
My last round with Better was personal check/ACH up two $500, certified check up to $2,000 and wire xfer above $2k. However, that was with Better Settlement Services in NC, so YMMV.

At these rates, I would roll everything in I could, but be prepared to make a payment on the 12th or 13th if there are delays.
Aug 03, 2020 11:00 PM
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Alex8919Aug 03, 2020 11:00 PM
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Quote from Rhizzlebop :
Got a reply from Samantha at LC that they cannot support South Carolina.

I also did an inquiry through costco this morning, but their rates are showing around 3.25% for no cost. Thats ridiculous. I have that now from May.

I went to lender fi website and it basically says they aren't doing anymore right now, and not showing any rate tables to even look at.

My best option seems to be with WM. I just uploaded a bunch of docs this morning, waiting for their review and response and will hopefully get to look over their LE.
Did WM ask you lock the rate ?
Aug 03, 2020 11:05 PM
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presto987Aug 03, 2020 11:05 PM
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Hi all, I'm new to this refinance stuff.

Some of you have deals where the lender credit exceeds the closing costs, so you get a net credit (as much as a few thousand dollars) at closing.

Aside from hard credit pulls, what prevents you from churning this type of deal? You could do this a couple of times (or once if trying to avoid too many credit pulls), pocket the lender credits, and then when you're done, refi into a low rate that you want to keep for the longer term.

What am I missing?

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Aug 03, 2020 11:07 PM
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Alex8919Aug 03, 2020 11:07 PM
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Quote from Mikey122687 :
I was told by Better that the application expires 30 days after first applied if I don't "lock in rate". Does anyone know if this is true or not?
It is true .
Aug 03, 2020 11:55 PM
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Shopper.hunter_788Aug 03, 2020 11:55 PM
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Quote from presto987 :
Hi all, I'm new to this refinance stuff.

Some of you have deals where the lender credit exceeds the closing costs, so you get a net credit (as much as a few thousand dollars) at closing.

Aside from hard credit pulls, what prevents you from churning this type of deal? You could do this a couple of times (or once if trying to avoid too many credit pulls), pocket the lender credits, and then when you're done, refi into a low rate that you want to keep for the longer term.

What am I missing?
Any lender credits above the closing costs are forfeited, this does not come back to you as extra cash. The only time you'll get cash in a non cash out refi is when your loan amount exceeds the payoff and closing costs by any amount under $2k.
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Aug 04, 2020 12:09 AM
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presto987Aug 04, 2020 12:09 AM
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Quote from Shopper.hunter_788 :
Any lender credits above the closing costs are forfeited, this does not come back to you as extra cash. The only time you'll get cash in a non cash out refi is when your loan amount exceeds the payoff and closing costs by any amount under $2k.
Thanks, appreciate the response.

In looking into this more, it looks like the lender credit can be used to offset prepaid interest for the rest of the month. So if I understand correctly, a month of interest is the max amount by which you can benefit from the lender credit exceeding closing costs.
Aug 04, 2020 12:12 AM
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shahhereAug 04, 2020 12:12 AM
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Quote from presto987 :
Thanks, appreciate the response.

In looking into this more, it looks like the lender credit can be used to offset prepaid interest for the rest of the month. So if I understand correctly, a month of interest is the max amount by which you can benefit from the lender credit exceeding closing costs.
And escrows..... that can be quite large...

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Aug 04, 2020 01:21 AM
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dealer89Aug 04, 2020 01:21 AM
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Locked with Better few days ago, and now trying to get a better offer. Better is asking for a locked LE to match. Any suggestions?
Aug 04, 2020 01:32 AM
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bakelandAug 04, 2020 01:32 AM
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I would really appreciate so advice since I'm trying to figure this long thread out.

I filled out a better.com/amex application 7/24 right before the deadline. quickly followed with the application with LC and 2 companies (Mutual of Omaha, Lending) with Costco Refi referrals. LC has been silent, and Mutual of Omaha gave me a 3.75%. 15 yr. They said it is a higher rate because its a cash-out. Our LTV ratio is 52%.

What are my next steps? Should I lock with Better now or wait until I have more LE's.

TY!
Aug 04, 2020 01:40 AM
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pavan87Aug 04, 2020 01:40 AM
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I received an offer of 2.5% with $5,400 in lender credit from Loan Cabin. Loan Amount of $510,400, 30 year mortgage, no origination fee, 60% LTV, with 800+ FICO. I'm in Texas.

Loan Depot beat their offer slightly after submitting the Loan Cabin loan estimate. An apples to apples comparison (since Loan Depot charged a $1,595 origination fee) with Loan Cabin is a 2.5% rate with $5,800 in lender credit.

Either option would end up with money in my pocket to go toward escrows.

I've submitted both to Better and hope they can match or beat it.
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Aug 04, 2020 01:47 AM
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duastoAug 04, 2020 01:47 AM
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Anyone have issues with TMS website?

I have recurring payment setup and works last month but this August 1st they still havent auto deduct it? Its already Aug 3. Should i call them or its just happened Aug 1st was Saturday.

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