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expiredGreenworld123 posted Dec 08, 2019 02:27 PM
expiredGreenworld123 posted Dec 08, 2019 02:27 PM

Amex offer: $2,500 statement credit for home refinance Better.com

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Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

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I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.
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Must have an amex to add offer to your account. Details:

Unlock even more as an
American Express® Card Member with an exclusive mortgage offer from Better.com
Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

https://www.americanexpress.com/u...-OfferHub2

EDIT information from Better.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello,
I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.

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Aug 04, 2020 04:25 PM
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duastoAug 04, 2020 04:25 PM
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Quote from lmc387 :
Yours was the smarter plan - mine was double pulled Frown
Just checked today and it got pulled today .... Maybe you can call them? That sucks to double pay it if your not intending to. Cash is the king so try to pull it and use that money elsewhere.
Aug 04, 2020 04:27 PM
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cynoAug 04, 2020 04:27 PM
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Quote from AAAcharlie :
Based on my dates above you should see it soon.
Hopefully. I have my payment due date this 14th and have a balance of $2400. I just wanted to see it get posted before 14th so I don't need to pay off Smilie
Aug 04, 2020 04:30 PM
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cynoAug 04, 2020 04:30 PM
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Quote from Rhizzlebop :
My first one closed May 2nd funded May 7th, and I got my credit around the 20th of July, so it took some time. If I close this refi first of sept, I don't expect my credit to come till prob november.
Normally it is taking 2 months but for some it took only a month. my second refi is almost ready and is about to close in the next few days. I just wanted to see the credit before that as I am going to use the same card.
Aug 04, 2020 04:37 PM
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GetItRightEveryTimeAug 04, 2020 04:37 PM
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Quote from GetItRightEveryTime :
Closed today with Better
15 Year $316K TX loan, 69% LTV

Rate - 2.25%
Total Closing Costs: 1734
Lender credit: 944
Out of Pocket : 1734-944 = 790
Amex Rewards : 2500

Rate locked on July 11th
Closed July 28th

This is my second refi, closed the first refi June 13th
Received Amex credit for first Refi today, back dated to July 15th
Aug 04, 2020 04:58 PM
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arleylAug 04, 2020 04:58 PM
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Timing on 2 refi's I did. First one was a rental property. Waiting on second credit for primary home. Should be coming in soon based on the timing of the first.

Refi 1 (rental):
May 27 - Rate Lock, Appraisal ordered
May 28 - Title report ordered.
May 29 - Appriasal completed
May 29 - Appriasal report received
June 1 - Appraisal cleared, title rpoert received.
June 2 - Title report cleared.
June 9 - Ready for closing email received
June 12 - Closing disclosure accepted
June 16 - Closing docs signed at home
June 18 - Funded
June 19 - Payoff confirmation received from curent lender
Aug 4 - $,2500 Amex statement credit

Refi 2 (Primary)

May 16 - Rate Lock
May 18 - Conditionally approved
June 11 - Ready for closing email received
June 14 - Closing disclosure accepted
June 18 - Closing docs signed at home
June 24 - Funded
June 25 - Payoff confirmation received from curent lender
TBD - $2,500 Amex Statement Credit
Aug 04, 2020 04:59 PM
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pkg4133Aug 04, 2020 04:59 PM
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Quote from shahhere :
Missing Lock date repercussions?


One Issue I am into right now is that my Title caused some issues and delays and I'll miss my lock date of 8/7. Anyone know how Better deal with this as I'd assume I'd have to pay some sort of a fee......Anyway to get that them to not charge me that?


Shahhere
They told me that I would have to pay a fee if the delay is on my side. I'm not sure title issues would be pinned on you. Additionally, the rep told me that they are able to make an exception for certain things when it comes to charging fees.
Aug 04, 2020 05:02 PM
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pkg4133Aug 04, 2020 05:02 PM
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Quote from Gamut :
That they are. I sent a LE before locking and Better came back thousands more.

Locked last week and sent in another nearly identical LE (from a different lender I've been shopping) and now Better came back on par.

2.50%, 30 yr, 79% LTV, ~270K, no escrow

A+B+C (D) = $1100
E+F = $480
$375 lender credit

Total cost = $1205 - $2500 AMEX = $1300 profit
What I hate about the way better beats your LE is also comparing title costs, even though it is something you are allowed to shop for!

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Aug 04, 2020 05:09 PM
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GamutAug 04, 2020 05:09 PM
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Quote from pkg4133 :
What I hate about the way better beats your LE is also comparing title costs, even though it is something you are allowed to shop for!
Indeed - however, I do have a local title agency contact (we used them for our refi last year) that I've asked to provide me a quote. So I can probably knock a little more off Better's estimate and get the actual cost under $1K.
Aug 04, 2020 05:54 PM
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hemihemiAug 04, 2020 05:54 PM
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Quote :
Quote from pkg4133 :
What I hate about the way better beats your LE is also comparing title costs, even though it is something you are allowed to shop for!
pavan87I had contacted Loan Cabin to get information on July 2nd. I was contacted by a loan officer (not Samantha) and we exchanges emails. He was super quick with responding to emails at that time.

I officially applied and they ran credit on July 13th. I elected to float the rate and not lock at that time. I couldn't tell what was going on with my application as I submitted all of the requested information. I finally heard back from my loan officer on July 30th when I decided to lock. I received the updated loan estimate showing the lender credit yesterday.

I believe they are overwhelmed with applications and it is taking them a while to get back to everyone. They offered the best rates initially for my situation so I've stayed the course with them.

I've been told they offer a one-time free float down if rates drop but when you request that, you must be ready to close within 15 days.
Why is it bad? I assume you can shop for after you lock in the rate and lower your costs. Isnt that possible?
Aug 04, 2020 05:57 PM
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Jimmy4uAug 04, 2020 05:57 PM
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So I was checking my rate sheet today at better.com and realized that rates offered are much better than what they were earlier. Please note that earlier they outright rejected 2.625% for 20 yrs with no loan costs LE from WM.

Now when I see the rate sheet I can see 2.5% for 20 yrs with enough credit (1800) to cover the loan costs. What do you guys suggest? Should I lock in and is there more scope ?
Aug 04, 2020 06:08 PM
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Shopper.hunter_788Aug 04, 2020 06:08 PM
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Quote from kapuju :
This isn't true. You should get it back up to $2000. I closed Saturday and it specifically says "cash to close to borrower". During closing I had to give them a voided check so they can wire the funds to me. Said I should receive it in about a week.
This is correct, I work for a mortgage lender. The cash back you get is for the difference between the loan amount and your payoff and closing costs. Double check your CD.
Aug 04, 2020 06:14 PM
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ghettoroadsterAug 04, 2020 06:14 PM
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fwiw, better pulled my title which caused the original lender to call in with a loan mod offer. $1500 to drop $0.35%. I declined and hung up. lol.

That said it's been a week since I applied with LC and WM, totally did not even hear back. only NBKC, LD, better have sent loan proposals. I locked with both LD and Better (pulled credit 2x, diff day, UGH), but Better (Miguel) is not responding to the LE matching even after 2 days.

Should I apply with more lenders like lenderfi, etc.? Cause my cost - in SoCal - at 30Y, 2.5% 60% LTV, 760+ fico is nowhere close to whatever everyone else has posted up.
Aug 04, 2020 06:26 PM
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pkg4133Aug 04, 2020 06:26 PM
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Quote from hemihemi :
Why is it bad? I assume you can shop for after you lock in the rate and lower your costs. Isnt that possible?
It's bad because when I'm trying to get them to match a competing LE, they also compare title costs. Some lenders are just conservative and put in a higher title cost on the LE. So when Better tries to match, they don't take too much off 'section A' because they say they've already beat them due to their high title costs.
Aug 04, 2020 06:44 PM
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euuser257843Aug 04, 2020 06:44 PM
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Anyone worked with owning.com? I have zero cost 2.5% with them and 2.5% some costs (but amex credit will help) with better. don't know whom to go with

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Aug 04, 2020 06:46 PM
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soobaerodudeAug 04, 2020 06:46 PM
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Quote from Fiunk :
Anyone worked with owning.com? I have zero cost 2.5% with them and 2.5% some costs (but amex credit will help) with better. don't know whom to go with
Lock the rate with better, then ask the loan processor to match the loan estimate from owning. If they match, you'll get zero cost and the credit

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