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expired Posted by Kevork • Dec 11, 2019
Dec 11, 2019 12:38 AM
Motile 14" Laptop: AMD Ryzen 5, 14" 1080p, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD
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Seems to be 2 M.2 slots and 1 DDR4.
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1. The Control (CTRL) key only works when pressed precisely in the center. Since this is one of my most used keys, it's been a very frustrating experience. I doubt anything can be done about this since it appears to be a design problem.
2. Touchpad gestures are incredibly slow, especially the 3 finger swipe gesture. I'm hoping that this can be fixed with a better touchpad driver. Has anyone else had any success addressing this issue? If so, please post and let us know how you did it.
Edit: Strangely, the three finger gesture works much faster after I installed the latest AMD APU driver. Not sure if it will last, but at least for now, I'm no longer experiencing the super-long delays that I was dealing with before installing the driver.
1. The Control (CTRL) key only works when pressed precisely in the center. Since this is one of my most used keys, it's been a very frustrating experience. I doubt anything can be done about this since it appears to be a design problem.
2. Touchpad gestures are incredibly slow, especially the 3 finger swipe gesture. I'm hoping that this can be fixed with a better touchpad driver. Has anyone else had any success addressing this issue? If so, please post and let us know how you did it.
My touchpad seems to work fine with the 3 finger swipe.. i still even have the plastic cover over the touchpad on.
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the iris graphic on i5-1035G4 is competitive with vega.. However, the i3-1031G1 is intel UHD, which really sucks compared to vega
I would probably have got a costco one with i5 myself. the only thing is that that thing doesn't have any 4K60hz output, which i need for my work since my work requires connecting to a 4k monitor.. The usb C on that hp is data only with no PD or DP, like our motile.
both the motile and the hp with i5 have HDMI 2.0
HP also only come with 4gb ram and 128gb ssd. but it does have 2 sodimm slots. HP does have a 2.5 in bay, but the connecting cable is not included
HP also weigh slightly more at 3.2 lb vs motile 2.6 lb and is slightly bigger.
Summary: if you can still get your hand on HP i5 version for $300, then it's a good deal.. if you can only get the i3 version, then it's not a good deal
the iris graphic on i5-1035G4 is competitive with vega.. However, the i3-1031G1 is intel UHD, which really sucks compared to vega
I would probably have got a costco one with i5 myself. the only thing is that that thing doesn't have any 4K60hz output, which i need for my work since my work requires connecting to a 4k monitor.. The usb C on that hp is data only with no PD or DP, like our motile. and the hdmi on the hp is 1.4. If you dont need 4K 60hz output then you can consider it
it also only come with 4gb ram and 128gb ssd. but it does have 2 sodimm slots. i think they say it does have a 2.5 in bay, but the connecting cable is not included?
it also weigh slightly more at 3.2 lb.
Summary: if you can still get your hand on the i5 version for $300, then it's a good deal.. if you can only get the i3 version, then it's not a good deal
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you can display 4k 60hz with hdmi 1.4b but you have to give up 4:4:4 chroma and do 4:2:0 chroma. HDMI 1.4 just doesn't have the bandwidth for 4K60hz 4:4:4
the iris graphic on i5-1035G4 is competitive with vega.. However, the i3-1031G1 is intel UHD, which really sucks compared to vega
I would probably have got a costco one with i5 myself. the only thing is that that thing doesn't have any 4K60hz output, which i need for my work since my work requires connecting to a 4k monitor.. The usb C on that hp is data only with no PD or DP, like our motile. and the hdmi on the hp is 1.4. If you dont need 4K 60hz output then you can consider it
it also only come with 4gb ram and 128gb ssd. but it does have 2 sodimm slots. i think they say it does have a 2.5 in bay, but the connecting cable is not included?
it also weigh slightly more at 3.2 lb.
Summary: if you can still get your hand on the i5 version for $300, then it's a good deal.. if you can only get the i3 version, then it's not a good deal
the iris graphic on i5-1035G4 is competitive with vega.. However, the i3-1031G1 is intel UHD, which really sucks compared to vega
I would probably have got a costco one with i5 myself. the only thing is that that thing doesn't have any 4K60hz output, which i need for my work since my work requires connecting to a 4k monitor.. The usb C on that hp is data only with no PD or DP, like our motile. and the hdmi on the hp is 1.4. If you dont need 4K 60hz output then you can consider it
it also only come with 4gb ram and 128gb ssd. but it does have 2 sodimm slots. i think they say it does have a 2.5 in bay, but the connecting cable is not included?
it also weigh slightly more at 3.2 lb.
Summary: if you can still get your hand on the i5 version for $300, then it's a good deal.. if you can only get the i3 version, then it's not a good deal
If anyone is interested, you can still find it on ebay brand new for ~$340 which isn't much more than if you ordered it from costco with tax and were lucky to get the i5 version.
If anyone is interested, you can still find it on ebay brand new for ~$340 which isn't much more than if you ordered it from costco with tax and were lucky to get the i5 version.
i do like the dual sodimm though. make ram upgrade easier as well as dual channel.
some people claim that the i5 version actually do have hdmi 2.0. i am trying to verify that. surprisingly it's not easy to verify as most people just somehow don't use the feature? lol... but if it's hdmi 2.0, i might grab one...
It is about 0.6 lb heavier than motile...
edit:
Here are my benchmark for Costco HP i5-1035G4 vs Walmart Motile Ryzen 5:
HP i5-1035G4: https://www.userbenchma
Motile Ryzen 5: https://www.userbenchma
i5-1035G4 faster in 1-4 thread. Ryzen 5 is very marginally faster when you get above 8 threads, but not quite make up for the loss to intel in single to 4 threads.
Motile has matte screen. HP has glossy screen.
Motile has better tactile feel to the touchpad.
Motile is slightly smaller and weight slightly less..
Motile has a more metallic slightly more premium feel. HP feels plasticky.
edit: HP i5-1035G HDMI is 2.0!. So both has HDMI 2.0
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So I tried installing the audio drivers that someone here linked. I uninstalled the current audio drivers and restarted, as suggested by the installation (I left the amd driver in, removed realtek and THX).
The realtek driver reinstalled itself and audio works. But, before I saw that, this [imgur.com] showed up and I'm wondering if you guys have seen it too. I was thinking that maybe the Motile people have an update, so I accepted it. It opened the command line for a moment and immediately closed it. Waited a while, no restart happened. However, my keyboard stopped working. Restarting the computer made it work again. BIOS version is still 1.03 and the same box showed up.
I'm going to accept the update again. Wish me luck.
Edit: This time the update worked! BIOS 1.06 installed. [imgur.com]
Also, audio is working fine with just the automatic reinstallation of the realtek drivers, so I'm gonna leave it for now. Unless anyone recommends those DJ Urko drivers vehemently.
Let's see if performance increases with the new BIOS or not...
Edit 2: At least on userbenchmark, it didn't get better. Maybe worse.
Before - https://www.userbenchma
After - https://www.userbenchma
Not sure if any performance improvements were expected though.
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