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Heim
12-14-2019 at 04:54 AM.
12-14-2019 at 04:54 AM.
The wattage on these Newegg PSU deals keep getting lower and lower.. Seems like they blew out the higher PSU deals on Black Friday week. laugh out loud
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battierpeeler
12-14-2019 at 04:19 PM.
12-14-2019 at 04:19 PM.
i really want to but seeing a few too many people complain about a noise it makes
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Elpee
12-14-2019 at 04:43 PM.
12-14-2019 at 04:43 PM.
Still missing and waiting 430W Corsair 80+ Bronze Power Supply $15 AR @Newegg
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pilotd
12-14-2019 at 04:53 PM.
12-14-2019 at 04:53 PM.
Quote from Naramie :
Don't buy bronze, copper, or wood rated power supplies. Very inefficient and you're wasting money unless you want a portable heater. It's garbage. Buy gold or higher rating only.
This is silly. Buy 80+ gold if you want to, but Bronze and Silver ratings are not "garbage". Also if you're buying gold rated psu's for the cost savings from the power efficiency, you might want to do that math. Power is *stupid* cheap a lot of places.
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SecretlyJesus
12-14-2019 at 05:06 PM.
12-14-2019 at 05:06 PM.
Quote from Naramie :
Don't buy bronze, copper, or wood rated power supplies. Very inefficient and you're wasting money unless you want a portable heater. It's garbage. Buy gold or higher rating only.

Literal opposite of the truth.

The efficiency differences are miniscule.
Ratings apply to under load, meaning you'll need to use the crap out of your PC to get your money's worth.
Even then unless you live in Cali or some other high electrical cost, it's take you around 15 years to recoup the cost difference over a bronze unit in electrical savings.

It's marketing ploy. Ignore unless you're the 12% who would benefit.
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spocko
12-14-2019 at 05:10 PM.
12-14-2019 at 05:10 PM.
In 4 1. Seems like a decent deal to me. I couldn't find anything better for under $50. My Coolmax power supply died yesterday, so I needed something quick.
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NoSleep007
12-14-2019 at 05:13 PM.
12-14-2019 at 05:13 PM.
500 watts doesn't seem enough
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FaithfulHose647
12-14-2019 at 05:19 PM.
12-14-2019 at 05:19 PM.
Quote from Naramie :
Don't buy bronze, copper, or wood rated power supplies. Very inefficient and you're wasting money unless you want a portable heater. It's garbage. Buy gold or higher rating only.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80_Plus

The difference between the lowest(80 Plus) and Gold is ~5% efficiency give or take a % depending on the load. Most users go overkill with their PSUs meaning they are rarely drawing anywhere near the total load it's capable of providing.

For instance, if your components pull 300W from a 600W power supply then an 80 Plus Bronze power supply may draw up to an extra 53W compared to an 80 Plus Gold power supply which will draw up to an extra 33W.

That's 20 Watts. If you take the average cost of electricity and assume the PC will be on for 12 hours a day, this amount to something like $10 a year. There could be an argument made for the reduced heats effect on prolonging the lifespan of the PSU, but most modern PSUs have such good dissipation that they can cool passively and only need the fan for load tests.

So in summary there are benefits to getting a Gold+ or above PSU and I'd recommend it for situations you know the machine will be running 24/7 like a dedicated server but saving $$$ is probably one of the least compelling reasons to do so.

Edit: For what it's worth I bought a Seasonic X-650 Gold in 2009 and it's survived 3 PCs of varying gaming overkill and is still chugging along strong. Their budget line might not have the same quality but IF/when this thing eventually dies I'll be going with another Seasonic.
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soupwizard
12-14-2019 at 05:20 PM.
12-14-2019 at 05:20 PM.
Quote from NoSleep007 :
500 watts doesn't seem enough
Depends on what you are doing. Say you want don't want to run the power supply at more than 80% of the rated max, for 500W that's 400W limit. Even if you put a RTX 2070 Super in (215W) that leaves 185W for the cpu, memory and drives - that's enough for most cpu's. And you drop down to a GTX 1660 Super (125W) that leaves 275W for the rest of the system.
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LizardSlayer
12-14-2019 at 05:33 PM.
12-14-2019 at 05:33 PM.
Quote from NoSleep007 :
500 watts doesn't seem enough

Enough for what? Not everyone needs a super computer in the home office. This overkill for 90% of people with a home PC.
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racebum
12-14-2019 at 06:06 PM.
12-14-2019 at 06:06 PM.
Quote from battierpeeler :
i really want to but seeing a few too many people complain about a noise it makes

It's just the same people repeating what a review said. I'm not sure how many people that actually own these have really made statements.
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blckgrffn
12-14-2019 at 07:00 PM.
12-14-2019 at 07:00 PM.
In for one as I have had great luck with Seasonic units and finally , around $30 even after MIR is so much better than what we have been seeing lately.

After clearing out my reserves of EVGA bronze units from over the last couple of years in inexpensive builds for friends or shedding old parts in CL I have been shocked at trying to replace them at similar prices, and not in a good way.

500 is also a sweet spot, for the vast majority of people this covers a stock clocked CPU and a video card that has one power plug required with much more headroom than the 430 units.
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AlwaysMatureDrivers
12-14-2019 at 07:25 PM.
12-14-2019 at 07:25 PM.
Quote from pilotd :
This is silly. Buy 80+ gold if you want to, but Bronze and Silver ratings are not "garbage". Also if you're buying gold rated psu's for the cost savings from the power efficiency, you might want to do that math. Power is *stupid* cheap a lot of places.

Yes and it would be lower without government getting involved.
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