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Details on how to understand the Mortgage basics and information that I understand for your learning can be accessed on this post (Click this hyperlink to go to the post); If you are new to this process and have questions this is a Must Read before asking question on the forum!


Reviving my over a decade old thread from SD and FW as the rates have gotten competitive. This thread is a SD community thread to compare and post best rates received along with their lender experience for a quick compare and estimation from a starting point.


Please note that rates will vary on quite a few factors and just because one person has a rate will not guarantee you will receive the same rate but simply use this as a guide and negotiation tactic.

All below rates are based on assumptions of certain LTV, DTI, & Excellent Credit Scores:

30 Year Fixed best rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down, low LTV, low DTI, etc etc):
All listed lenders are here because I shopped them and have encountered competitive pricing and not because I get any sort of a kickback....use this as a gauge for the latest but note that things can change week to week, day to day and even hour to hour:

07/14/2021 2.875% Better.com- Will consider Lender Match to beat Competitors and combine with Amex cashback (Click here for additional Forum thread details). Amex's "Digital Assist" Team @ 800-297-7500

07/14/2021 2.875% LoanDepot.com - Is competitive but works better if you have another offer for them. My LO Luke Dean
[email protected] 949-652-4521

07/14/2021 BSMFunding (David Pressel) - Call to get the latest rates (no published online). Very competitive rates; get everything in writing via email!
https://bsmfunding.mymortgage-onl...essel.html
David Pressel (NMLS: 562175)- Branch Manager - Phone: 908-208-2036
[email protected]
07/14/2021 2.5% LoanCabin [loancabin.com] - Most Competitive but refinance times have grow to almost 6 months for many people so proceed with caution as recent reviews indicate normal 1 month closing. Generally do not charge for big Lender Fees (A+B on LE) as they are under $100 in most cases; esp if appraisal is waived for your scenario.

07/14/2021 3% LenderFi - Competitive but might be slow and not work on beating other lender rates.
30 Year Fixed Jumbo Best Rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down):
TBD
15 year Fixed:
07/14/2021 2.0 % Better.com; matches Bankrate rates for themselves.
07/04/2020 2.5% NIH Credit Union with Lender Credit
Title Company Comparisions:
RadianTitleDirect.com - OP has used them for almost a decade with getting best rates (closed after Covid, Lender must submit order as consumer side is closed).
ALTTitle.com
https://www.valerotitle.com/ - Texas only.
Alphabetical list of other lenders (some could be non-proven without direct member experiences posted here):
  1. AimLoan - Will provide LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  2. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull https://www.amerisave.com/
  3. Better.com https://better.com/
  4. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  5. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  6. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  7. HighTechLending http://www.hightechlending.co/Default.aspx
  8. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/ Eric from IM is super rude so good luck dealing with this guy!
  9. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com [lenderfi.com]if the link wont work try this backend link: https://app.lenderfi.com/app/sign...r/lenderfi
  10. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  11. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  12. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  13. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  14. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  15. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  16. Owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  17. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  18. Provident Funding - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/
  19. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  20. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility traviscu.org
  21. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  22. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/
  23. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/


Shahhere

Old Thread - https://slickdeals.net/e/1223863-03-06-2009-best-mortgage-rates-from-big-reputable-lenders-30year-5-15year-5-arm-s-etc

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Quote from MeAPhool :
I think a lot of people get confused with regards to "no closing cost". Specifically I think that is with regards to A+B+C (as referenced in this post by volcomssj48 - https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=138543920&postcount=138)

As per volcomssj48, this is a good place to go for a basic understanding of the LE (Loan Estimate) that should be provided to you by each lender once you give all of your information: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/o...-estimate/

I'm in NJ so I can't really shop Title Insurance much as it's the cost is regulated by the state, however in other states, you can really cut down some of the costs in section "C".
Good site for daily mortgage news. Subscribe to their daily mortgage rate news to learn about their predictions. Also take a look at the rest of their site.
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/...age_rates/



Potential Lenders - Mentioned in Thread
*Please add to this list and add locality if applicable*

  1. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  2. Better.com https://better.com/
  3. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  4. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com/
  5. owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  6. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  7. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  8. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility [traviscu.org]
  9. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  10. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  11. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  12. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  13. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  14. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  15. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/
  16. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  17. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  18. HighTechLending https://hightechlending.mortgagewebcenter.com/
  19. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  20. AimLoan - will give LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  21. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull
    https://www.amerisave.com/
  22. Provident - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/ Best Credit Back with 60% LTV or better.
  23. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/ Skip these guys. They are being rude to Slickdealers. In one occasion they have explicitly said they don't want to do business with people from Slickdeals. They also have an approach where they give you the best rate initially and just raise it more each time you ask.
  24. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  25. Annie Mac https://www.annie-mac.com/ Licensed in these states https://www.annie-mac.com/page/licensed-states/
  26. Rate Rabbit https://www.raterabbit.com/ Licensed in MA and others [raterabbit.com]

Discount lenders who DO NOT accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Owning.com
BoxHomeLoans
Lower.com

Discount Lenders that DO accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Sebonic
Caliber
Sage

Title Company Shopping
AltTitle.com
mytitlegenius.com (formerly entitle direct)
TO AVOID - Settlement LTD (local Pittsburgh run away from them - high cost, very bad service, lot of delays)


Feel Free to Add Sections for Each Lender - MeAPhool

Loan Cabin - DetailsWARNING. DO NOT GO WITH LOAN CABIN. TRUST ME.
I would have lost the home if i was trying to buy a house.
I just had a normal refi and it took then 127 days to close. out of the 27 emails i sent, they responded to 3. I even had to call (complain) their main office 2 times to get a response to any emails. they screwed the closing paperwork as well.


Loan Cabin does not charge lender fees. Actually all of this is in their FAQ but of course nobody reads anything and wants everything spoon fed.

This means A+B (reference the link above in the wiki regarding Loan Estimate) in the Loan Estimate should be 0 (as long as your appraisal is waived).

You will be responsible for Title Cost (of course you can shop that to your heart's delight)
You will be responsible for Recording Fee in your county
You will be responsible for Escrows (if you so choose OR if you are close to Homeowner's OR Property Tax payment - though you can negotiate and show evidence to get it waived. Most lender's will waive it if you are choosing not to escrow and you can show proof that you paid the upcoming Property Tax or Homeowner's Insurance)

You will be responsible for Prepaid Interest (this isn't a cost. If you didn't refinance, you'd be paying the interest at your current mortgage rate which I assume would be higher).

Lender Credit - If this covers A+B+C+E then you have a no-cost refinance. If you have a surplus aside from A+B+C+E, then technically you made money on your refinance.


If you apply and do no hear back for 3 days, then on the 3rd business day, reach out to [email protected]. They will usually help get a response on your application within a day.



If the information in this WIKI does not cover your questions, then please ask. We will answer and update WIKI accordingly.

Thanks - MeAPhool

Quote from arouncoumar :
For those needing clarity on LC closing costs, I was on the same boat. See what they charge here https://www.dropbox.com/s/r30ecea...t.png?dl=0
Quote from PeterLegend :
Here is a photo of my loan estimate from Loan Cabin, my lender credits should be closer to 3K based on my initial conversations with Bob so i'm following up with him on that.

I do see title insurance in my estimate. I reached out to Owning but I didn't quality for the no cost refinance option since my LTV was 73%, it has to be 50% or lower when I spoke to them.

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07-06-2020 at 01:32 PM.
07-06-2020 at 01:32 PM.
Quote from woodtouch :
Locked with loan depot

2.25% fixed for conventional 15-year loan

2.29% APR
0 points
Loan : 750 K
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Kindly PM me the details as well. In the same boat, so hoping to benefit. Thank you
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07-06-2020 at 02:17 PM.
07-06-2020 at 02:17 PM.
Quote from slackinormackin :
How did you get this? The rates looked a lot higher when I tried Frown it looks like they want $7500 for loan origination fees.

I completed my refinance with them at the end of April/early May. I have checked occasionally and noticed their rates/fees are higher than before.

If the lenders others have posted on here don't work out for you, I suggest you check the NIHFCU site regularly and have all your documents ready.

I was about to lock it up at 2.75% fixed for a 15 year conventional loan but was lucky the rate dropped to 2.5% right when I was ready.
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07-06-2020 at 02:35 PM.
07-06-2020 at 02:35 PM.
Quote from woodtouch :
Locked with loan depot

2.25% fixed for conventional 15-year loan

2.29% APR
0 points
Loan : 750 K
94582
What were your A+B+C fees? Did you get quote for 30 year?
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07-06-2020 at 03:20 PM.
07-06-2020 at 03:20 PM.
Quote from GianAngeloGiraffe :
Rate 2.875 w 6k credit or 2.75 w 4k credit
APR
Term (years) 30
Loan Amount 450k
Appraisal Amount 600k
Closing Costs
Lender Loan Depot
Location MD
Hmmm,

They offered me this:
Rate 2.875 w 8500 in FEES
APR
Term (years) 30
Loan Amount 200k
Appraisal Amount 300k
Closing Costs
Lender Loan Depot
Location MD
Credit Score 770

I wonder why such a variance.
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07-06-2020 at 04:00 PM.
07-06-2020 at 04:00 PM.
Quote from nikolasmor :
Hmmm,

They offered me this:
Rate 2.875 w 8500 in FEES
APR
Term (years) 30
Loan Amount 200k
Appraisal Amount 300k
Closing Costs
Lender Loan Depot
Location MD
Credit Score 770

I wonder why such a variance.
Some people seem to say that loans under 300k get worse rates than larger loans, oddly enough. But that's still a mammoth swing. LD beat Better and LenderFi by 5k+ for me - I think I just got lucky.
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07-06-2020 at 04:49 PM.
07-06-2020 at 04:49 PM.
Quote from Ajrules83 :
When you guy's are saying 0 points and everything, are you not adding at all to you principle from closing costs? Or are you getting Lender credits to pay fo the closing costs? I don't want to add anything my principle to make it work for me. I have a 3.625 30 year currently but want to do a 15 year 2.5 and will be moving in 2-3 years. It would only make sense if I didn't have to add anything to my principle in order to do a refinance. Possible?

A) Points are for lowering your interest rate. You buy points up front to get a certain lower rate if they have it available.

A) Origination fee is usually a % like 1% origination fee of the loan amount.

Closing costs are the above and some.
B - services borrower did not shop for: Title fees, credit report fee, etc.

C - same as B but services borrower did shop for.

E: Taxes and other gov fees

F: prepaids

G: initial escrow at closing

H: other

I: sub total (E+F+G+H)

J: total closing cost (D+I) - lender credits
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07-06-2020 at 05:58 PM.
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Quote from GianAngeloGiraffe :
Some people seem to say that loans under 300k get worse rates than larger loans, oddly enough. But that's still a mammoth swing. LD beat Better and LenderFi by 5k+ for me - I think I just got lucky.
A swing indeed! Can you PM your Liaison and Loan Officer info?
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07-06-2020 at 07:05 PM.
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Better.com not accepting https://hightechlending.mortgagewebcenter.com website print estimate. Did anyone get luck with it?
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07-06-2020 at 07:14 PM.
Rate 2.875 A+B+C $2957, Lender Credit $3667
Term (years) 30
Loan Amount 640k
Appraisal Amount 860k
Closing Costs $43
Lender Loan Depot
Location CA
Credit Score 790

This is for a Condo refinance.
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Quote from SomeXYZ :
Better.com not accepting https://hightechlending.mortgagewebcenter.com website print estimate. Did anyone get luck with it?

Probably need a real loan estimate.
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Probably need a real loan estimate.

Did anyone get actual loan estimate?
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07-06-2020 at 10:28 PM.
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It sucks because I wish I would have known this would have happened. I refinanced on OCT 2019 .
Loan at 145k , house valued at 200k appraisal.
Rate is 3% , for 15 yr conventional with roughly 7,5k closing cost.

I guess I'm asking if I got screwed over at that time? That's at least 6 months before covid crashed anything
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Quote from hondaboi01 :
I completed my refinance with them at the end of April/early May. I have checked occasionally and noticed their rates/fees are higher than before.

If the lenders others have posted on here don't work out for you, I suggest you check the NIHFCU site regularly and have all your documents ready.

I was about to lock it up at 2.75% fixed for a 15 year conventional loan but was lucky the rate dropped to 2.5% right when I was ready.
ok thanks. i live close to nih - i feel like they should hook me up!!! Smilie
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07-07-2020 at 06:31 AM.
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Quote from jo_795 :
It sucks because I wish I would have known this would have happened. I refinanced on OCT 2019 .
Loan at 145k , house valued at 200k appraisal.
Rate is 3% , for 15 yr conventional with roughly 7,5k closing cost.

I guess I'm asking if I got screwed over at that time? That's at least 6 months before covid crashed anything
Sorry... nobody can answer as we have no idea what that $7500 in closing consists of. Or what your old loan was. 3% is a good rate though.
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07-07-2020 at 07:05 AM.
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First time refinancing...

I am in the process of submitting my application thru LenderFi and plan to compare with Better.com utilizing AMEX offer, and possibly loanDepot.

Any general suggestions for a rookie? When comparing loans, the important aspects are the interest rate and loan costs (A+B+C). All of the other costs (E+F+G+H) should be the same from one lender to the next. Does that sound about right?

Thanks for your help!
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