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Details on how to understand the Mortgage basics and information that I understand for your learning can be accessed on this post (Click this hyperlink to go to the post); If you are new to this process and have questions this is a Must Read before asking question on the forum!


Reviving my over a decade old thread from SD and FW as the rates have gotten competitive. This thread is a SD community thread to compare and post best rates received along with their lender experience for a quick compare and estimation from a starting point.


Please note that rates will vary on quite a few factors and just because one person has a rate will not guarantee you will receive the same rate but simply use this as a guide and negotiation tactic.

All below rates are based on assumptions of certain LTV, DTI, & Excellent Credit Scores:

30 Year Fixed best rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down, low LTV, low DTI, etc etc):
All listed lenders are here because I shopped them and have encountered competitive pricing and not because I get any sort of a kickback....use this as a gauge for the latest but note that things can change week to week, day to day and even hour to hour:

07/14/2021 2.875% Better.com- Will consider Lender Match to beat Competitors and combine with Amex cashback (Click here for additional Forum thread details). Amex's "Digital Assist" Team @ 800-297-7500

07/14/2021 2.875% LoanDepot.com - Is competitive but works better if you have another offer for them. My LO Luke Dean
[email protected] 949-652-4521

07/14/2021 BSMFunding (David Pressel) - Call to get the latest rates (no published online). Very competitive rates; get everything in writing via email!
https://bsmfunding.mymortgage-onl...essel.html
David Pressel (NMLS: 562175)- Branch Manager - Phone: 908-208-2036
[email protected]
07/14/2021 2.5% LoanCabin [loancabin.com] - Most Competitive but refinance times have grow to almost 6 months for many people so proceed with caution as recent reviews indicate normal 1 month closing. Generally do not charge for big Lender Fees (A+B on LE) as they are under $100 in most cases; esp if appraisal is waived for your scenario.

07/14/2021 3% LenderFi - Competitive but might be slow and not work on beating other lender rates.
30 Year Fixed Jumbo Best Rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down):
TBD
15 year Fixed:
07/14/2021 2.0 % Better.com; matches Bankrate rates for themselves.
07/04/2020 2.5% NIH Credit Union with Lender Credit
Title Company Comparisions:
RadianTitleDirect.com - OP has used them for almost a decade with getting best rates (closed after Covid, Lender must submit order as consumer side is closed).
ALTTitle.com
https://www.valerotitle.com/ - Texas only.
Alphabetical list of other lenders (some could be non-proven without direct member experiences posted here):
  1. AimLoan - Will provide LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  2. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull https://www.amerisave.com/
  3. Better.com https://better.com/
  4. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  5. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  6. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  7. HighTechLending http://www.hightechlending.co/Default.aspx
  8. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/ Eric from IM is super rude so good luck dealing with this guy!
  9. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com [lenderfi.com]if the link wont work try this backend link: https://app.lenderfi.com/app/sign...r/lenderfi
  10. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  11. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  12. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  13. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  14. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  15. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  16. Owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  17. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  18. Provident Funding - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/
  19. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  20. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility traviscu.org
  21. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  22. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/
  23. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/


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Quote from MeAPhool :
I think a lot of people get confused with regards to "no closing cost". Specifically I think that is with regards to A+B+C (as referenced in this post by volcomssj48 - https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=138543920&postcount=138)

As per volcomssj48, this is a good place to go for a basic understanding of the LE (Loan Estimate) that should be provided to you by each lender once you give all of your information: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/o...-estimate/

I'm in NJ so I can't really shop Title Insurance much as it's the cost is regulated by the state, however in other states, you can really cut down some of the costs in section "C".
Good site for daily mortgage news. Subscribe to their daily mortgage rate news to learn about their predictions. Also take a look at the rest of their site.
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/...age_rates/



Potential Lenders - Mentioned in Thread
*Please add to this list and add locality if applicable*

  1. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  2. Better.com https://better.com/
  3. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  4. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com/
  5. owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  6. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  7. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  8. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility [traviscu.org]
  9. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  10. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  11. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  12. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  13. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  14. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  15. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/
  16. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  17. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  18. HighTechLending https://hightechlending.mortgagewebcenter.com/
  19. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  20. AimLoan - will give LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  21. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull
    https://www.amerisave.com/
  22. Provident - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/ Best Credit Back with 60% LTV or better.
  23. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/ Skip these guys. They are being rude to Slickdealers. In one occasion they have explicitly said they don't want to do business with people from Slickdeals. They also have an approach where they give you the best rate initially and just raise it more each time you ask.
  24. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  25. Annie Mac https://www.annie-mac.com/ Licensed in these states https://www.annie-mac.com/page/licensed-states/
  26. Rate Rabbit https://www.raterabbit.com/ Licensed in MA and others [raterabbit.com]

Discount lenders who DO NOT accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Owning.com
BoxHomeLoans
Lower.com

Discount Lenders that DO accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Sebonic
Caliber
Sage

Title Company Shopping
AltTitle.com
mytitlegenius.com (formerly entitle direct)
TO AVOID - Settlement LTD (local Pittsburgh run away from them - high cost, very bad service, lot of delays)


Feel Free to Add Sections for Each Lender - MeAPhool

Loan Cabin - DetailsWARNING. DO NOT GO WITH LOAN CABIN. TRUST ME.
I would have lost the home if i was trying to buy a house.
I just had a normal refi and it took then 127 days to close. out of the 27 emails i sent, they responded to 3. I even had to call (complain) their main office 2 times to get a response to any emails. they screwed the closing paperwork as well.


Loan Cabin does not charge lender fees. Actually all of this is in their FAQ but of course nobody reads anything and wants everything spoon fed.

This means A+B (reference the link above in the wiki regarding Loan Estimate) in the Loan Estimate should be 0 (as long as your appraisal is waived).

You will be responsible for Title Cost (of course you can shop that to your heart's delight)
You will be responsible for Recording Fee in your county
You will be responsible for Escrows (if you so choose OR if you are close to Homeowner's OR Property Tax payment - though you can negotiate and show evidence to get it waived. Most lender's will waive it if you are choosing not to escrow and you can show proof that you paid the upcoming Property Tax or Homeowner's Insurance)

You will be responsible for Prepaid Interest (this isn't a cost. If you didn't refinance, you'd be paying the interest at your current mortgage rate which I assume would be higher).

Lender Credit - If this covers A+B+C+E then you have a no-cost refinance. If you have a surplus aside from A+B+C+E, then technically you made money on your refinance.


If you apply and do no hear back for 3 days, then on the 3rd business day, reach out to [email protected]. They will usually help get a response on your application within a day.



If the information in this WIKI does not cover your questions, then please ask. We will answer and update WIKI accordingly.

Thanks - MeAPhool

Quote from arouncoumar :
For those needing clarity on LC closing costs, I was on the same boat. See what they charge here https://www.dropbox.com/s/r30ecea...t.png?dl=0
Quote from PeterLegend :
Here is a photo of my loan estimate from Loan Cabin, my lender credits should be closer to 3K based on my initial conversations with Bob so i'm following up with him on that.

I do see title insurance in my estimate. I reached out to Owning but I didn't quality for the no cost refinance option since my LTV was 73%, it has to be 50% or lower when I spoke to them.

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Owning.com 30 years 2.5% Rate & APR Zero closing costs
Rateplus.com 30 years 2.625% Rate & APR Zero closing costs
Yep just make sure you meet the terms for Owning.com Keep in mind to get the 2.5% it is based off of:

Disclosed rate assumes a $350,000 rate and term refinance loan on an owner-occupied single family residence in California. Minimum 740 FICO credit score, 50% loan to value with no subordinate debt. If these factors are not met, you may still qualify and additional pricing adjustments may apply. Subject to underwriting approval. Not all applicants will qualify.


Great deal if your LTV is less then 50%. Does not hurt to ask if you don't meet them all. May not be the same exact deal but hopefully it will be decent.
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08-04-2020 at 07:36 AM.
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Quote from shahhere :
If anyone has done this or knows about it let me know:
Should I pay my current lender's monthly mortgage or let the interest get rolled in during close as I should fund before the 15th.


Until I fund I'll be paying interest at the higher current rate one way or another I think?


Lastly, if i have to bring say 4,000 or 5,000 Better will allow a Cashier's check? I know Radian is ok.


Shahhere
I believe Better allows cashiers checks up to $2000 (or 2500), above that you need to wire the money. Re: paying existing mortgage, the payoff quote the new lender gets will be dependent upon you NOT paying the mortgage and closing on the specified day. [Better instructed me to NOT pay my existing mortgage for an end of month closing - funding in new month.] The rub would be if closing slips and funding is delayed - having you fall into late fee territory - but you should know that and could make a last minute payment if necessary.
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Quote from shahhere :
If anyone has done this or knows about it let me know:
Should I pay my current lender's monthly mortgage or let the interest get rolled in during close as I should fund before the 15th.

Until I fund I'll be paying interest at the higher current rate one way or another I think?
You could wait, but here is the risk>> If the closing is delayed, or the payment from the NEW lender is a delayed past the late payment date - you would be stuck with a late payment fee.

No matter when it closes, you will owe the old lender up until it is paid off. The new lender will charge starting the day they take over and will figure that in at closing as prepaid interest.

Unless closing is weeks before the due date, I would pay the old lender... if you pay too much, you will get it back.
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Quote from gk6740 :
You could wait, but here is the risk>> If the closing is delayed, or the payment from the NEW lender is a delayed past the late payment date - you would be stuck with a late payment fee.

No matter when it closes, you will owe the old lender up until it is paid off. The new lender will charge starting the day they take over and will figure that in at closing as prepaid interest.

Unless closing is weeks before the due date, I would pay the old lender... if you pay too much, you will get it back.

Thats what I am thinking as I dont want to look for a wiring option if I dont have to but that might depend on Radian as well who is my Title Company and not Better Title.


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Missing Lock date repercussions?


One Issue I am into right now is that my Title caused some issues and delays and I'll miss my lock date of 8/7. Anyone know how Better deal with this as I'd assume I'd have to pay some sort of a fee......Anyway to get that them to not charge me that?


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Better denied my match request to LenderFi's 2.625% no cost LE even after I locked and got my tasks to underwriting. In the meantime, LenderFi just told me they dropped their rates and will now do 2.5% no cost. This is for $560K 30 year refi in CA with 44% LTV.
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Quote from shahhere :
Missing Lock date repercussions?


One Issue I am into right now is that my Title caused some issues and delays and I'll miss my lock date of 8/7. Anyone know how Better deal with this as I'd assume I'd have to pay some sort of a fee......Anyway to get that them to not charge me that?


Shahhere
https://better.com/faq/locking/wh...s-complete
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08-04-2020 at 09:21 AM.

Thanks yes, i read that but they are calling this a "Title Issue" and the rep wasnt sure what the final verdict on who pays what will be but said that its a fee that will be charged for that and will need to be split between me and Better.......


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Quote from Methodman :
Better denied my match request to LenderFi's 2.625% no cost LE even after I locked and got my tasks to underwriting. In the meantime, LenderFi just told me they dropped their rates and will now do 2.5% no cost. This is for $560K 30 year refi in CA with 44% LTV.
Wow, great deal. Wish Lenderfi backdoor still worked. You loan is similar to mine.
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Quote from Lifeinabox :
Wow, great deal. Wish Lenderfi backdoor still worked. You loan is similar to mine.
Have you tried this link? https://app.lenderfi.com/app/sign...r/lenderfi
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Quote from shahhere :
Missing Lock date repercussions?


One Issue I am into right now is that my Title caused some issues and delays and I'll miss my lock date of 8/7. Anyone know how Better deal with this as I'd assume I'd have to pay some sort of a fee......Anyway to get that them to not charge me that?


Shahhere
Technically if you miss the lock date, you should be eligible for the current float, which would be a lower, since rates have fallen. You may not be eligible for the credits you are getting now but the rate should be lower. Not saying you should take this option but it can act as a bargaining chip if the lender tries to ask for an extension fee.
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Quote from nagraw4 :
Technically if you miss the lock date, you should be eligible for the current float, which would be a lower, since rates have fallen. You may not be eligible for the credits you are getting now but the rate should be lower. Not saying you should take this option but it can act as a bargaining chip if the lender tries to ask for an extension fee.

My bargaining chip was the other lender I contacted and posted here but as my gut instincts said that until I get a locked LE things are not finalized and thats been the case as the locked LEs have been different and far from the original LE.


Since, I dont have that the risk I see in doing the other stuff is that I dont have a way to get a competing LE that would help lower the credits or if the credits would be reset as it was Price Matched items.



The Float option wont work as i noted earlier since the rate hasnt dropped on FRED which is what they use to compare rates enough for them to provide that.


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Quote from shahhere :
Thanks yes, i read that but they are calling this a "Title Issue" and the rep wasnt sure what the final verdict on who pays what will be but said that its a fee that will be charged for that and will need to be split between me and Better.......


Shahhere
No worries, even LC has similar conditions https://www.loancabin.com/faq_cat...cking-faq/

You seem to be up to date with this. I'm looking for zero cost refinance for my home in TX from 30 year (22 years still left) to 15 year fixed with LTV around 30% (185k balance) and excellent credit. What lenders should I consider applying to? Let me know if you need more info from me.
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Quote from shahhere :
My bargaining chip was the other lender I contacted and posted here but as my gut instincts said that until I get a locked LE things are not finalized and thats been the case as the locked LEs have been different and far from the original LE.


Since, I dont have that the risk I see in doing the other stuff is that I dont have a way to get a competing LE that would help lower the credits or if the credits would be reset as it was Price Matched items.



The Float option wont work as i noted earlier since the rate hasnt dropped on FRED which is what they use to compare rates enough for them to provide that.


Shahhere
What is this FRED thing?
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What is this FRED thing?
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MORTGAGE30US
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