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Details on how to understand the Mortgage basics and information that I understand for your learning can be accessed on this post (Click this hyperlink to go to the post); If you are new to this process and have questions this is a Must Read before asking question on the forum!
Reviving my over a decade old thread from SD and FW as the rates have gotten competitive. This thread is a SD community thread to compare and post best rates received along with their lender experience for a quick compare and estimation from a starting point.
Please note that rates will vary on quite a few factors and just because one person has a rate will not guarantee you will receive the same rate but simply use this as a guide and negotiation tactic.
All below rates are based on assumptions of certain LTV, DTI, & Excellent Credit Scores:
30 Year Fixed best rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down, low LTV, low DTI, etc etc):
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Old Thread - https://slickdeals.net/e/1223863-03-06-2009-best-mortgage-rates-from-big-reputable-lenders-30year-5-15year-5-arm-s-etc
Reviving my over a decade old thread from SD and FW as the rates have gotten competitive. This thread is a SD community thread to compare and post best rates received along with their lender experience for a quick compare and estimation from a starting point.
Please note that rates will vary on quite a few factors and just because one person has a rate will not guarantee you will receive the same rate but simply use this as a guide and negotiation tactic.
All below rates are based on assumptions of certain LTV, DTI, & Excellent Credit Scores:
30 Year Fixed best rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down, low LTV, low DTI, etc etc):
All listed lenders are here because I shopped them and have encountered competitive pricing and not because I get any sort of a kickback....use this as a gauge for the latest but note that things can change week to week, day to day and even hour to hour:
07/14/2021 2.875% Better.com- Will consider Lender Match to beat Competitors and combine with Amex cashback (Click here for additional Forum thread details). Amex's "Digital Assist" Team @ 800-297-7500
07/14/2021 2.875% LoanDepot.com - Is competitive but works better if you have another offer for them. My LO Luke Dean
[email protected] 949-652-4521
07/14/2021 BSMFunding (David Pressel) - Call to get the latest rates (no published online). Very competitive rates; get everything in writing via email!
https://bsmfunding.mymortgage-onl...essel.html
David Pressel (NMLS: 562175)- Branch Manager - Phone: 908-208-2036
[email protected]
07/14/2021 2.5% LoanCabin [loancabin.com] - Most Competitive but refinance times have grow to almost 6 months for many people so proceed with caution as recent reviews indicate normal 1 month closing. Generally do not charge for big Lender Fees (A+B on LE) as they are under $100 in most cases; esp if appraisal is waived for your scenario.30 Year Fixed Jumbo Best Rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down):
07/14/2021 3% LenderFi - Competitive but might be slow and not work on beating other lender rates.
TBD15 year Fixed:
07/14/2021 2.0 % Better.com; matches Bankrate rates for themselves.Title Company Comparisions:
07/04/2020 2.5% NIH Credit Union with Lender Credit
RadianTitleDirect.com - OP has used them for almost a decade with getting best rates (closed after Covid, Lender must submit order as consumer side is closed).Alphabetical list of other lenders (some could be non-proven without direct member experiences posted here):
ALTTitle.com
https://www.valerotitle.com/ - Texas only.
- AimLoan - Will provide LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
- Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull https://www.amerisave.com/
- Better.com https://better.com/
- BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloan
s.com/ - Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourow
nloan.com/...sults.aspx - Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmor
t.com/ - HighTechLending http://www.hightechlen
ding.co/Default.aspx - Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemort
gage.com/ Eric from IM is super rude so good luck dealing with this guy! - LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com [lenderfi.com]if the link wont work try this backend link: https://app.lenderfi.com/app/sign...r/lenderfi
- Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.c
om/ - Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.c
om/ - LoanLock https://www.loanlock.co
m/ - NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal
.org/ - NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
- Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe
.com/ - Owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
- Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
- Provident Funding - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.c
om/ - RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.co
m/ - Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.or
g/ Eligibility traviscu.org - United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
- Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkho
meloans.com/ - West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/
Shahhere
Old Thread - https://slickdeals.net/e/1223863-03-06-2009-best-mortgage-rates-from-big-reputable-lenders-30year-5-15year-5-arm-s-etc
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Potential Lenders - Mentioned in Thread
*Please add to this list and add locality if applicable*
Discount lenders who DO NOT accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Owning.com
BoxHomeLoans
Lower.com
Discount Lenders that DO accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Sebonic
Caliber
Sage
Title Company Shopping
AltTitle.com
mytitlegenius.com (formerly entitle direct)
TO AVOID - Settlement LTD (local Pittsburgh run away from them - high cost, very bad service, lot of delays)
Feel Free to Add Sections for Each Lender - MeAPhool
Loan Cabin - DetailsWARNING. DO NOT GO WITH LOAN CABIN. TRUST ME.
I would have lost the home if i was trying to buy a house.
I just had a normal refi and it took then 127 days to close. out of the 27 emails i sent, they responded to 3. I even had to call (complain) their main office 2 times to get a response to any emails. they screwed the closing paperwork as well.
Loan Cabin does not charge lender fees. Actually all of this is in their FAQ but of course nobody reads anything and wants everything spoon fed.
This means A+B (reference the link above in the wiki regarding Loan Estimate) in the Loan Estimate should be 0 (as long as your appraisal is waived).
You will be responsible for Title Cost (of course you can shop that to your heart's delight)
You will be responsible for Recording Fee in your county
You will be responsible for Escrows (if you so choose OR if you are close to Homeowner's OR Property Tax payment - though you can negotiate and show evidence to get it waived. Most lender's will waive it if you are choosing not to escrow and you can show proof that you paid the upcoming Property Tax or Homeowner's Insurance)
You will be responsible for Prepaid Interest (this isn't a cost. If you didn't refinance, you'd be paying the interest at your current mortgage rate which I assume would be higher).
Lender Credit - If this covers A+B+C+E then you have a no-cost refinance. If you have a surplus aside from A+B+C+E, then technically you made money on your refinance.
If you apply and do no hear back for 3 days, then on the 3rd business day, reach out to [email protected]. They will usually help get a response on your application within a day.
If the information in this WIKI does not cover your questions, then please ask. We will answer and update WIKI accordingly.
Thanks - MeAPhool
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I think a lot of people get confused with regards to "no closing cost". Specifically I think that is with regards to A+B+C (as referenced in this post by volcomssj48 - https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=
As per volcomssj48, this is a good place to go for a basic understanding of the LE (Loan Estimate) that should be provided to you by each lender once you give all of your information: https://www.consumerfin I'm in NJ so I can't really shop Title Insurance much as it's the cost is regulated by the state, however in other states, you can really cut down some of the costs in section "C". |
http://www.mortgagenew
Potential Lenders - Mentioned in Thread
*Please add to this list and add locality if applicable*
- Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.c
om/ - Better.com https://better.com/
- Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
- LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.co
m/ - owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
- NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
- Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.c
om/ - Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.or
g/ Eligibility [traviscu.org] - Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
- Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemort
gage.com/ - NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal
.org/ - United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
- BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloan
s.com/ - LoanLock https://www.loanlock.co
m/ - West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/
- RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.co
m/ - Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe
.com/ - HighTechLending https://hightechlending
.mortgagewebcen ter.com/ - Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourow
nloan.com/...sults.aspx - AimLoan - will give LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
- Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull
https://www.amerisave.com/ - Provident - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.c
om/ Best Credit Back with 60% LTV or better. - Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkho
meloans.com/ Skip these guys. They are being rude to Slickdealers. In one occasion they have explicitly said they don't want to do business with people from Slickdeals. They also have an approach where they give you the best rate initially and just raise it more each time you ask. - Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmor
t.com/ - Annie Mac https://www.annie-mac.com/ Licensed in these states https://www.annie-mac.com/page/licensed-states/
- Rate Rabbit https://www.raterabbit.
com/ Licensed in MA and others [raterabbit.com]
Discount lenders who DO NOT accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Owning.com
BoxHomeLoans
Lower.com
Discount Lenders that DO accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Sebonic
Caliber
Sage
Title Company Shopping
AltTitle.com
mytitlegenius.com (formerly entitle direct)
TO AVOID - Settlement LTD (local Pittsburgh run away from them - high cost, very bad service, lot of delays)
Feel Free to Add Sections for Each Lender - MeAPhool
Loan Cabin - DetailsWARNING. DO NOT GO WITH LOAN CABIN. TRUST ME.
I would have lost the home if i was trying to buy a house.
I just had a normal refi and it took then 127 days to close. out of the 27 emails i sent, they responded to 3. I even had to call (complain) their main office 2 times to get a response to any emails. they screwed the closing paperwork as well.
Loan Cabin does not charge lender fees. Actually all of this is in their FAQ but of course nobody reads anything and wants everything spoon fed.
This means A+B (reference the link above in the wiki regarding Loan Estimate) in the Loan Estimate should be 0 (as long as your appraisal is waived).
You will be responsible for Title Cost (of course you can shop that to your heart's delight)
You will be responsible for Recording Fee in your county
You will be responsible for Escrows (if you so choose OR if you are close to Homeowner's OR Property Tax payment - though you can negotiate and show evidence to get it waived. Most lender's will waive it if you are choosing not to escrow and you can show proof that you paid the upcoming Property Tax or Homeowner's Insurance)
You will be responsible for Prepaid Interest (this isn't a cost. If you didn't refinance, you'd be paying the interest at your current mortgage rate which I assume would be higher).
Lender Credit - If this covers A+B+C+E then you have a no-cost refinance. If you have a surplus aside from A+B+C+E, then technically you made money on your refinance.
If you apply and do no hear back for 3 days, then on the 3rd business day, reach out to [email protected]. They will usually help get a response on your application within a day.
If the information in this WIKI does not cover your questions, then please ask. We will answer and update WIKI accordingly.
Thanks - MeAPhool
For those needing clarity on LC closing costs, I was on the same boat. See what they charge here https://www.dropbox.com/s/r30ecea...t.png
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Here is a photo of my loan estimate from Loan Cabin, my lender credits should be closer to 3K based on my initial conversations with Bob so i'm following up with him on that.
I do see title insurance in my estimate. I reached out to Owning but I didn't quality for the no cost refinance option since my LTV was 73%, it has to be 50% or lower when I spoke to them. |
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My loan is conditionally approved, supposedly i'm 14 days out from closing but hopefully that will be confirmed tomorrow afternoon. That would put my closing date in early November...This is starting to turn into a bad dream. The plan was to skip November but if I have to pay my existing mortgage for November that would sucks...
My third refinance was on going with Better.com after my second was funded a week ago.
Here's the email I got when they told me they will withdraw my application.
"Unfortunately due to federal regulations, we are unable to proceed with the application as there are certain red flags when doing multiple refis on the same property. I double checked with my team and we will have to withdraw and have you reapply later on since the terms have changed."
My loan is conditionally approved, supposedly i'm 14 days out from closing but hopefully that will be confirmed tomorrow afternoon. That would put my closing date in early November...This is starting to turn into a bad dream. The plan was to skip November but if I have to pay my existing mortgage for November that would sucks...
My loan is conditionally approved, supposedly i'm 14 days out from closing but hopefully that will be confirmed tomorrow afternoon. That would put my closing date in early November...This is starting to turn into a bad dream. The plan was to skip November but if I have to pay my existing mortgage for November that would sucks...
I locked 7/24 so my entire process will exceed 3 months with no delays on my end.
I was expecting 60 days not 90+, but as long as I get my 2.5%, I will be happy (but just grumble to myself about the length of time it took)
I read somewhere in this thread that loancabin doesn't work with Radian (my LO didn't tell me this when I requested Radian). Do title companies only work in their home state? Asking because I tried to find ALT Title's rates, and it seems that they're only in Pennsylvania, is that right?
Does anyone know a competitively priced title company in California (for loancabin)?
thanks!
I read somewhere in this thread that loancabin doesn't work with Radian (my LO didn't tell me this when I requested Radian). Do title companies only work in their home state? Asking because I tried to find ALT Title's rates, and it seems that they're only in Pennsylvania, is that right?
Does anyone know a competitively priced title company in California (for loancabin)?
thanks!
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I read somewhere in this thread that loancabin doesn't work with Radian (my LO didn't tell me this when I requested Radian). Do title companies only work in their home state? Asking because I tried to find ALT Title's rates, and it seems that they're only in Pennsylvania, is that right?
Does anyone know a competitively priced title company in California (for loancabin)?
thanks!
They quoted me $900 for title/settlement in CA, which is the same as what they quoted when I did a refi with Better. This may vary based on your loan amount.
North American Title was a close second. Check them out if your lender doesn't work with Radian. I can't vouch for their services, but their price was good. I was planning to use them if Radian had not become available.
They quoted me $900 for title/settlement in CA, which is the same as what they quoted when I did a refi with Better. This may vary based on your loan amount.
Interactive Mortgage is probably your best bet. They have a 2.5 no cost now (they were offering 2.375 but it went up - either because of the .5 fee or because of demand - or both).
For me it was 33 days from initial rate locking to signing, or 38 days today from rate locking to funding.
Gotcha, so.. I'm in my third year in the house. You're saying it's worth going back to a 30 year and just put an additional into principal to mimic a 25 year plan. Is that the thought, so we can take he benefit of low rates now?
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Here is my bitter experience in refinancing my mortgage with Sebonic (Cardinal financials is the Lender).
As expected LO is not reachable after locking the rate with him. Like others in this forum, I can't able to match/beat my quote with any other lenders as I didn't received 3 page LE from this LO.
Due to recent change in employment Cardinal financials asked me several documents like proof to show continuous employment for last 6 months. Also some additional documents to support employments.
Cardinal financials even asked my current employer a 'Written verification of employment'.
Up until this process I was ok as I am expecting all this due to my current state.
Here is the actual problem that I faced.
10/6 closed the loan.
10/13: lender supposed to send wire to settlement company.
10/13: at 6pm received an email saying from lender stating "In order to fund the loan on time they need some more details (last 1 month paychecks - as they were missing 1 month of paychecks due after loan initiation, & 6 months of bank statements from second bank which they didn't asked me before closing)". I send the documents immediately.
10/14: I contacted lender asking what kind of verification is this after closing. Got a response saying I signed to support for any post closing evidences.
I raised concern about overlap of the interest payment due to payment delay. Cardinal financials representative told me that they will take care of it (Not sure how).
I also find out that since I go with different settlement company than what Cardinal financials recommended, they are saying that they don't have wire details.
Later when I said I will find out with my settlement company, she told me that she received wire details from settlement company but misplaced the wire details as its not from their usual settlement company. (So mistake is purely with Cardinal Financials)
10/14: I got one more email from Post closing agent of the settlement company saying missing initials on closing document. I did initials on the document and send back to them immediately.
10/15: Night at 9pm: I got an email from the same settlement company asking the same initials again CCing to some individual in Cardinal financials. I replied them saying I sent the same yesterday then I also attached the same scanned copy .
10/16: Cardinal financials wanted me sign the credit check authorization form as they never did the credit pull on the day of closing (What a crap). Anyway I did sign the credit check page. But they never checked my credit after that.
Finally on 10/16 COB funds got wired and received by my old lender.
Timeline:
8/18:
Initiated loan process on 8/18
8/20: locked the loan for 2.5 Rate with 1000 loan origination fee for 30 years.
Details:
Loan amount is 273k
LTV 60%
Previous rate: 3.375 with 24 years left
New rate: 2.5 for 30 years
Loan Origination: 1k
No other charges or credits
Total Closing: Escrows + Closing cost + loan origination =4800(Approximate).
10/8:
Closing agent called to schedule a date to closing. I Picked the first available day for closing10/12.
10/12: Closed the loan on time.
over all I think paid 2k extra for the loan origination and closing.
I will get back around 2000 from Old lender in escrows and and additional payment.
Lessons learned:
Loan closing is not the end of loan process. Make sure funds got transferred to old lender.
Unless there is significant benefit don't change default settlement company that lender is offering to close.
Pending:
I think I still have to deal with Cardinal financial on overlapped interest days (2 days).