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Rheem Performance Platinum 50 Gal. 10-Year Hybrid High Efficiency Smart Tank Electric Water Heater - $799 + shipping

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I just purchased this water heater, normally $1299, for $799 + tax + $75 shipping.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rheem.../312742081

Steps to get deal:
1) Go to above link
2) Change store to zip code 15010(Edit: use Zip 97322 for $699 instead of $799)
3) Select Ship to Home (unless you happen to live close to this store), add to cart.
4) Check out.

Additional notes:
1) Federal tax credit of $300. State tax credits vary, in my home state we get an additional $400 (bringing this heater down to $99 + $75 shipping + tax).
2) For many/most, the $75 shipping is worth it even if you can get this price locally as these heaters are quite heavy and supposedly must be transported vertically.
3) Do your homework on these hybrid heaters before purchasing. You need 220V to operate. Installation expense is generally much higher with hybrid electric vs standard electric resistance heaters and gas heaters. Hot water recovery is very slow (but you can switch to standard electric mode for rapid recovery when you know your usage will be high, e.g. having company over). They can apparently be loud, so if this will be located close to a bedroom, important to think about. There are important climate and installation location factors to consider--just google.
4) The newest generation of this series from Rheem, called "Proterra" can be had for $1269, a slight discount compared to full price (15% for my location). After carefully examining specs, photos, etc - it seems that the only difference with the Proterra series is built-in leak detection with auto-shutoff. FYI if that feature is important to you, you can add it for $219:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rheem...513?NCNI-5
5) This is for 50 gallon. Looks like if you need 65 gal or 80 gal, the Proterra is actually on sale (whereas the Performance Platinum is full price), making the Proterra cheaper.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rheem.../312742081
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I just purchased this water heater, normally $1299, for $799 + tax + $75 shipping.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rheem.../312742081

Steps to get deal:
1) Go to above link
2) Change store to zip code 15010(Edit: use Zip 97322 for $699 instead of $799)
3) Select Ship to Home (unless you happen to live close to this store), add to cart.
4) Check out.

Additional notes:
1) Federal tax credit of $300. State tax credits vary, in my home state we get an additional $400 (bringing this heater down to $99 + $75 shipping + tax).
2) For many/most, the $75 shipping is worth it even if you can get this price locally as these heaters are quite heavy and supposedly must be transported vertically.
3) Do your homework on these hybrid heaters before purchasing. You need 220V to operate. Installation expense is generally much higher with hybrid electric vs standard electric resistance heaters and gas heaters. Hot water recovery is very slow (but you can switch to standard electric mode for rapid recovery when you know your usage will be high, e.g. having company over). They can apparently be loud, so if this will be located close to a bedroom, important to think about. There are important climate and installation location factors to consider--just google.
4) The newest generation of this series from Rheem, called "Proterra" can be had for $1269, a slight discount compared to full price (15% for my location). After carefully examining specs, photos, etc - it seems that the only difference with the Proterra series is built-in leak detection with auto-shutoff. FYI if that feature is important to you, you can add it for $219:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rheem...513?NCNI-5
5) This is for 50 gallon. Looks like if you need 65 gal or 80 gal, the Proterra is actually on sale (whereas the Performance Platinum is full price), making the Proterra cheaper.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rheem.../312742081

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Dec 08, 2020 12:41 AM
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Dec 08, 2020 12:41 AM
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Quote from eliezerlp :
I believe the harness is already there. It should be plug and play. I ordered the kit and I can report back once I receive it...

Here is a video [youtube.com] showing replacement of the LeakGuard sensor which gives me hope it is as they say.
So how'd you make out?
Dec 08, 2020 01:47 AM
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aztonyDec 08, 2020 01:47 AM
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Quote from Kevin7284 :
Shows out of stock for me as well
Quote from phdo :
Same here.
Not showing OOS for me. I changed the delivery zip and also the store I am shopping at to 15010 in PA. Shows in stock at $799. I used Edge private browser.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rheem...v3xLR5sxI0
Dec 08, 2020 04:48 PM
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new_berlinDec 08, 2020 04:48 PM
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Quote from BlueChin8736 :
Just done installing the unit with help of my friend. He did most of the installation though.

Parts cost around $150 from HD. plastic water catch pan, 20 ft PVC, 10 ft 3/4 copper pipe etc.
Hardest parts were to reconfigure water inlet outlet from the top to the side and create new drain line (making hole in the wall to let drain go outside)

It was cheaper than $800-900 installation quote from local plumbers. However I won't get $400 rebate from local electric company since I did not use licensed plumber.
What's the additional water catch pan for? I thought there's one (the circular black tray that the unit sits on) included?
Any reason you didn't use flexible hoses (braided copper or braided steel)?
Dec 08, 2020 04:54 PM
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SimMike777Dec 08, 2020 04:54 PM
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Quote from new_berlin :
What's the additional water catch pan for? I thought there's one (the circular black tray that the unit sits on) included?
Any reason you didn't use flexible hoses (braided copper or braided steel)?
From my experience, you always have to pay extra for the pan, which costs about $10 to $15 at homedepot. I am always shocked that many install companies don't even put one in unless you ask for and pay for it.

I got this exact model of Rheem a few years ago with a special 12 year warranty. It comes with a sensor that goes in the pan and alerts you if it starts leaking. Without a pan this might not work.
Dec 09, 2020 12:46 AM
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BlueChin8736Dec 09, 2020 12:46 AM
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Quote from new_berlin :
What's the additional water catch pan for? I thought there's one (the circular black tray that the unit sits on) included?
Any reason you didn't use flexible hoses (braided copper or braided steel)?
I did use it to make my installation up to the current building code. It was only $12 at HD.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everb.../205680994

Also I used copper water heater connector to connect the hot and cold line.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/3-4-i.../205192750

I followed this guy's installation done by the licenced contractor in Phoenix AZ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h...lbertSolar

By the way, I called Rheem regarding which mode saves the best electricity for this unit.
I explained them my situations that I want to save max electricity bill and don't worry about recovering time. I currently put my water heater in heat pump mode.
They told me that in heat pump mode, compressor runs longer time to get up the temperature, and "Energy Saving" mode is the best because water heater runs the shortest amount of the time to get up the temp regardless of using heating element.


Dec 09, 2020 06:38 PM
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goodytwoDec 09, 2020 06:38 PM
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Quote from foxblur :
Thin wires are for some additional thing I think to do with econet. I didn't hook mine up. Mine sort of sounds like a older refrigerator. Might take off the lid and see if something is rattling in there. I expected the blower noise but not the sort of refrigerator noise.
Mine is just installed and making a grinding sound like something is rubbing up against another part inside the unit. When I lift the air filter just a few inches in blocks the parts rubbing and the sound subsides. Any one have a guess what is going on? Should I reach out to Home Depot or Rheem first?
Dec 09, 2020 09:10 PM
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euuser1398928Dec 09, 2020 09:10 PM
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Quote from goodytwo :
Mine is just installed and making a grinding sound like something is rubbing up against another part inside the unit. When I lift the air filter just a few inches in blocks the parts rubbing and the sound subsides. Any one have a guess what is going on? Should I reach out to Home Depot or Rheem first?
Mine just has a refrigerator like rattle from what I would describe as a much older frig. I haven't messed with the filter. Next time I catch it on, I'll mess with it. It definitely blows cold air. Will be very useful coming this summer.

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aztonyDec 10, 2020 01:30 AM
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Quote from BlueChin8736 :
I did use it to make my installation up to the current building code. It was only $12 at HD.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everb.../205680994

Also I used copper water heater connector to connect the hot and cold line.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/3-4-i.../205192750

I followed this guy's installation done by the licenced contractor in Phoenix AZ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h...lbertSolar

By the way, I called Rheem regarding which mode saves the best electricity for this unit.
I explained them my situations that I want to save max electricity bill and don't worry about recovering time. I currently put my water heater in heat pump mode.
They told me that in heat pump mode, compressor runs longer time to get up the temperature, and "Energy Saving" mode is the best because water heater runs the shortest amount of the time to get up the temp regardless of using heating element.
Thanks for the links and info. Would I need anything else since my current water heater has the pipes coming in from the top.
Dec 10, 2020 02:30 AM
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BlueChin8736Dec 10, 2020 02:30 AM
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Quote from aztony :
Thanks for the links and info. Would I need anything else since my current water heater has the pipes coming in from the top.
You need copper pipe like this
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Cerro.../100354200
with 90 or 45 degrees adapters
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everb.../100678006
to rearrange inlet/outlet to the side from the top like you seen in the youtube video.

Also you need copper pipe cutter
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGI.../100075014
and tools shown bellow to solder copper tubes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J...=Got2Learn

And connect drain from the water heater to the house drains
need pvc pipe cutter, pvc primer/glue, Tee, 90 or 45 degrees adapters

make sure that you can fit 26 in water heater catch pan
Last edited by BlueChin8736 December 9, 2020 at 07:33 PM.
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MK7GolfRDec 10, 2020 03:40 PM
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Quote from BlueChin8736 :
You need copper pipe like this
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Cerro.../100354200
with 90 or 45 degrees adapters
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everb.../100678006
to rearrange inlet/outlet to the side from the top like you seen in the youtube video.

Also you need copper pipe cutter
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGI.../100075014
and tools shown bellow to solder copper tubes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J...=Got2Learn

And connect drain from the water heater to the house drains
need pvc pipe cutter, pvc primer/glue, Tee, 90 or 45 degrees adapters

make sure that you can fit 26 in water heater catch pan
I would add that you want to install a vacuum relief on the cold inlet mounted above the top of the tank.
https://www.amazon.com/Eastman-60...B01GSG1YLI

Also, take a look at rheems install instructions, they recommend a tee at the condensate drain outlet so you can flush it easily.

You can convert from copper to pex if you don't want to deal with copper soldering. Sharkbite makes adapters. I recommend pex over the corrugated metal tubes. Less chance of leaking long term.

here's my install, the relief valve is on the right side kinda hidden behind the stud.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2xeer4w...7.jpg?dl=0
Last edited by MK7GolfR December 10, 2020 at 08:47 AM.
Dec 11, 2020 04:31 AM
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new_berlinDec 11, 2020 04:31 AM
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Quote from MK7GolfR :
I would add that you want to install a vacuum relief on the cold inlet mounted above the top of the tank.
https://www.amazon.com/Eastman-60...B01GSG1YLI

Also, take a look at rheems install instructions, they recommend a tee at the condensate drain outlet so you can flush it easily.

You can convert from copper to pex if you don't want to deal with copper soldering. Sharkbite makes adapters. I recommend pex over the corrugated metal tubes. Less chance of leaking long term.

here's my install, the relief valve is on the right side kinda hidden behind the stud.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2xeer4w...7.jpg?dl=0
Thanks for the picture and explaining the advantage of using pex but then why not just use flexible braided hoses so that there's no need to crimp various points and add pvc connectors etc. Is it mainly for aesthetics?
Also can you suggest a cheap/economical crimper and crimps for pex like used in your install.
Dec 11, 2020 12:36 PM
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MK7GolfRDec 11, 2020 12:36 PM
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Quote from new_berlin :
Thanks for the picture and explaining the advantage of using pex but then why not just use flexible braided hoses so that there's no need to crimp various points and add pvc connectors etc. Is it mainly for aesthetics?
Also can you suggest a cheap/economical crimper and crimps for pex like used in your install.
You have many choices for plumbing systems with various pros and cons, you just gotta weigh your options. My routing was more complicated because my washer was teed off the water heater supply.

You could go:
-existing copper - cpvc - flex pipe - water heater
-existing copper - pex - water heater
-existing copper - copper - flex/pex - water heater

I chose to transition from cpvc to pex because as a homeowner, it's much easier to cut and dry fit everything without having to mess with glue and you can't bottom out the fittings to measure without glueing. Yeah you can measure before glue and subtract the bottoming depth but it's just more steps and chances to make a mistake. You also get some more flexibility to make adjustments with pex, you can still rotate the fittings some after they are crimped. Downside of pex is cost of fittings, I had a lot of turns so it added up but in my case I felt it was worth it.

As for the flex pipe, I was already using pex so it made more sense to continue using it. Also, the flex pipe is rubber inside, it is not as durable as PEX, CPVC, or copper. It's also more expensive than PEX. You also can't run flex all the way from your water heater to your existing cooper (only comes in short lengths) so you would have to also use PEX, CPVC, or copper to get your line closer to the inlet/outlet. You may decide for your application that if the flex pipe does leak eventually (small chance) that it's not that big of a deal. It's in a easily serviceable location and would be very easy to replace in the future. like I said, a lot of ways to do it. Going from existing cooper to CPVC to flex will prob be your cheapest option and because you're using flex pipe if the CPVC is off a little, you have that flexibility.

Depending on your local code, you might not be allowed to connect PEX directly to your water heater, some call for some rigid pipe to be used, then PEX. My code did not require it.

For the crimp tool, I borrowed a friend's but this one seems decent.
https://www.amazon.com/iCrimp-4-i...0727RY8FC/

I'll also add you need a 30a breaker to run this. If not, you're gonna have to call an electrician. I had to add a new circuit for this water heater because my old one was only 20a.
Last edited by MK7GolfR December 11, 2020 at 07:11 AM.
Dec 12, 2020 03:39 AM
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aztonyDec 12, 2020 03:39 AM
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Quote from BlueChin8736 :
You need copper pipe like this
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Cerro.../100354200
with 90 or 45 degrees adapters
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everb.../100678006
to rearrange inlet/outlet to the side from the top like you seen in the youtube video.

Also you need copper pipe cutter
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGI.../100075014
and tools shown bellow to solder copper tubes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J...=Got2Learn

And connect drain from the water heater to the house drains
need pvc pipe cutter, pvc primer/glue, Tee, 90 or 45 degrees adapters

make sure that you can fit 26 in water heater catch pan
Quote from MK7GolfR :
I would add that you want to install a vacuum relief on the cold inlet mounted above the top of the tank.
https://www.amazon.com/Eastman-60...B01GSG1YLI

Also, take a look at rheems install instructions, they recommend a tee at the condensate drain outlet so you can flush it easily.

You can convert from copper to pex if you don't want to deal with copper soldering. Sharkbite makes adapters. I recommend pex over the corrugated metal tubes. Less chance of leaking long term.

here's my install, the relief valve is on the right side kinda hidden behind the stud.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2xeer4w...7.jpg?dl=0
Here's a photo of the wate heater I have now. I won't be doing any of the plumbing, I will be hiring a handyman I use to install the heater.
Dec 12, 2020 03:45 AM
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ajs1984Dec 12, 2020 03:45 AM
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Did anybody try to install the leak sensor? I ordered an AP19134 from Rheem directly and plugged it in, but it immediately threw a leak error code which can't be cleared. I've tried power cycling and plugging/unplugging to no avail.

Anyway, this is a great deal. I had mine installed by a professional plumber. It looks great and it sips power. Even in a cold garage (~50F in Northern CA right now) it's able to keep the water at 110F without much effort, and I'll run it once a week at 140 to kill any bacteria, probably with the blended "energy saver" or "high demand" mode. As others have mentioned, it's somewhere between a refrigerator and modern air conditioner in terms of noise, and way quieter than my old 4t Trane XL80, so basically not an issue. The app is pretty basic, but it works well.

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TurbowellsDec 12, 2020 02:22 PM
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Quote from ajs1984 :
Did anybody try to install the leak sensor? I ordered an AP19134 from Rheem directly and plugged it in, but it immediately threw a leak error code which can't be cleared. I've tried power cycling and plugging/unplugging to no avail.
I pulled the leak sensor off my gen 4 unit and plugged into the gen 5 unit. It did not alarm. I did not cycle power.

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