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New computer specs: Can dedicated GPU RAM make up for less system RAM?

4,546 1,480 January 8, 2021 at 06:35 AM in Computers (2)
I know just enough tech to not know what I'm doing. I currently have a laptop with an i7-7700HQ, 12GB of RAM, and NVIDIA GeForce 1050 graphics (and an SSD). Performance is very good for my needs, but I broke the case and need to buy something new.

I'm looking at a laptop with an i-7 9750H 6-core with 8GB of system RAM and an NVIDIA 1650 with 4GB of dedicated RAM. It's got a 4K OLED screen and an SSD with 32GB Intel Optane.

I am the type of person who literally has 4 different browsers open (Chrome, Firefox, Edge, and Opera as I type this) with around 200 tabs open at a time (bad habit, but #thisisme). My current machine handles all that with PowerDirector open at the same time to edit a video (just light video editing, but I do hope to be able to render an hour-long video a bit faster than it currently happens).

Am I taking a step down with the new computer? Essentially, will I be OK stepping down from 12GB to 8GB given the step up to a 6-core processor and the 4GB of dedicated graphics RAM?

I don't game if that makes a difference. 200 tabs and the ability to do light video editing in 1080p are my main concerns.

Thoughts?

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Parachute07
01-08-2021 at 08:26 PM.
01-08-2021 at 08:26 PM.
Thanks to everyone who has responded thus far. I just placed an order for an open box HP Spectre with a 10th-gen i7 (quad-core rather than hex), 16GB of RAM, NVIDIA MX 330 (2GB dedicated), and 512GB SSD with 32GB optane. It's still a 4K screen, but WLED instead of OLED and only 340 nits vs 400 nits. Hopefully that will be bright enough to work outside in the summertime. And hopefully it's in decent condition. We'll see tomorrow. Thanks again!
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01-09-2021 at 07:53 AM.
01-09-2021 at 07:53 AM.
Quote from Parachute07 :
Thanks to everyone who has responded thus far. I just placed an order for an open box HP Spectre with a 10th-gen i7 (quad-core rather than hex), 16GB of RAM, NVIDIA MX 330 (2GB dedicated), and 512GB SSD with 32GB optane. It's still a 4K screen, but WLED instead of OLED and only 340 nits vs 400 nits. Hopefully that will be bright enough to work outside in the summertime. And hopefully it's in decent condition. We'll see tomorrow. Thanks again!

On a side note, personally, 4k on a laptop screen is a waste (I also think it's a waste on flagship phones). I don't want to be 4-6" from the screen to read all the native sized icons/text. I know there is scaling but that defeats the purpose (to me).

I'm sure the OLED of your original will be lots better than the new one. Based on the YouTube link for the 'df' series in my previous comment, it looks like that one's RAM is upgradeable. That was my only gripe on your first purchase. I would probabaly stick with that one if you can verify with customer support that the RAM is upgradeable if you take it apart - probabaly need to talk to someone at the technical side though.

Either way, both laptops should be good. Obviously the 16gb of the new one is much better than the 8gb of the first one.
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01-09-2021 at 06:23 PM.
01-09-2021 at 06:23 PM.
Let me ask you this: would you stick with the first one for whatever I said it came to (like $1300 net?) or would you take this for $876.99?

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-s...Id=6406695

I picked that up open box today in "satisfactory" condition. Came in the original box with everything, pen and leather sleeve never opened, plastic still on the charger, 11 months of warranty left.

I haven't had the chance to play with it much yet and I'll have to see how it does in sunlight tomorrow, but if I could upgrade the RAM in the one I originally bought, would you like it to the tune of $425 more (plus cost of upgrading RAM)?

since I haven't been in a store in a very long time, today was the first time I saw any of the laptops that I was considering in person. I also saw a 15.6 inch Lenovo 9i that looked terrific. No HDMI out, but I could get that outfitted with a 6-core i7, 512GB SSD with 32GB optane, and an NVIDIA 1650 ti Max-Q for $1300 out the door as an alternative.

I'm thinking that the Sceptre for $876.99 is still probably the best bang for my buck though, right?
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01-09-2021 at 09:47 PM.
01-09-2021 at 09:47 PM.
Quote from Parachute07 :
Let me ask you this: would you stick with the first one for whatever I said it came to (like $1300 net?) or would you take this for $876.99?

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-s...Id=6406695

I picked that up open box today in "satisfactory" condition. Came in the original box with everything, pen and leather sleeve never opened, plastic still on the charger, 11 months of warranty left.

I haven't had the chance to play with it much yet and I'll have to see how it does in sunlight tomorrow, but if I could upgrade the RAM in the one I originally bought, would you like it to the tune of $425 more (plus cost of upgrading RAM)?

since I haven't been in a store in a very long time, today was the first time I saw any of the laptops that I was considering in person. I also saw a 15.6 inch Lenovo 9i that looked terrific. No HDMI out, but I could get that outfitted with a 6-core i7, 512GB SSD with 32GB optane, and an NVIDIA 1650 ti Max-Q for $1300 out the door as an alternative.

I'm thinking that the Sceptre for $876.99 is still probably the best bang for my buck though, right?

I think you'd be paying $450+ for the OLED screen... That's a decision only you can make.

OLED is great, but I wouldn't personally pay that much.
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Sam Hobbs
12-13-2022 at 01:10 PM.
12-13-2022 at 01:10 PM.
I know this is an old thread but I will add a bit anyway.


Quote from Parachute07 :
I didn't realize I could see how much RAM I'm using. 93/94% at the moment.
Beginner programmers often panic when the Windows Task Manager indicates to them that their program is using a lot of memory. Windows is lazy about releasing memory so the amount of memory actually needed might be less than the Task Manager indicates. The Task Manager can be a useful indicator of memory used and 93% does indicate that memory is inadequate but the Task Manager is not the most reliable source of that data.

Quote from FlashX83 :
So when it comes to laptops, the answer is no, dedicated GPU RAM does not make up for less system RAM.

Based on your requirements you should definitely be looking for something with 16+GB RAM and not worrying about the GPU at all.
Yes, GPU RAM cannot be used to extend CPU RAM.
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