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Panasonic Eneloop Pro Rechargeable AA Ni-MH Batteries with Charger (2550mAh, Pack of Four) ($27.99 w/ Free Ship)

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Amazon sells the same thing, but this is about $5 less than Amazon, as Amazon (according to 3Camel never lowers the price from about $33). It's also a Top Seller on B&H, as well.

EDIT --- After posting this, looks like Amazon may have reduced the price to the same price as B&H. So, here's the Amazon Link to the same deal. [amazon.com]

Key Features
Rechargeable up to 500x
Pre-Charged, Ready to Use
Holds 85% of Charge for 1 Year
No Memory Effect

This pack of Eneloop Pro AA Rechargeable Ni-MH Batteries from Panasonic comes with a charger, and four pre-charged and ready-to-use batteries. They are not subject to any memory effect so you can charge them up to 500 times whether they are fully or partially drained. They maintain 85% of their charge after one year, and remain functional down to -4°F.



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tsa1
04-18-2021 at 05:30 PM.
04-18-2021 at 05:30 PM.
Quote from fyu :
If it's LSD and made in Japan them it's from that single Fujitsu owned factory.
This factory must be protected at all costs.
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04-18-2021 at 06:12 PM.
04-18-2021 at 06:12 PM.
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Then it maybe using cheaper materials or changed the design as a possibility. Unless you are suggesting the factory cannot change their manufacturing.

I was clearly responding to the speculation they had switched factories.

Certainly these Laddas could be internally different than the Eneloop Pros, but the specs are so similar that I bet the only difference is the wrapper. It doesn't really make since for the manufacturer to go through the trouble of engineering/developing another cell that is only 4% different. If they do anything, they might test the capacity of the cells -- and if they measure over 2500mA then they are sent for the Eneloop Pro wrapper and if the measure less then they go to the machine that wraps the cells in Ladda wrappers.
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04-19-2021 at 08:35 AM.
04-19-2021 at 08:35 AM.
Quote from bcm00re :
I was clearly responding to the speculation they had switched factories.

Certainly these Laddas could be internally different than the Eneloop Pros, but the specs are so similar that I bet the only difference is the wrapper. It doesn't really make since for the manufacturer to go through the trouble of engineering/developing another cell that is only 4% different. If they do anything, they might test the capacity of the cells -- and if they measure over 2500mA then they are sent for the Eneloop Pro wrapper and if the measure less then they go to the machine that wraps the cells in Ladda wrappers.
It doesn't make sense from your point of view. The factory may have additional information they base their decision on.
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04-19-2021 at 11:46 AM.
04-19-2021 at 11:46 AM.
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It doesn't make sense from your point of view. The factory may have additional information they base their decision on.

It doesn't make sense from my point of view as someone with a degree in electrical engineering and who has a friend that works for Energizer.
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04-19-2021 at 12:40 PM.
04-19-2021 at 12:40 PM.
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It doesn't make sense from my point of view as someone with a degree in electrical engineering and who has a friend that works for Energizer.
That's funny, I have a degree in Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences too! I also have friends that work in electronics!

Don't throw your weight around. You are not the only one with a "degree" or friends that work at places.
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04-19-2021 at 12:46 PM.
04-19-2021 at 12:46 PM.
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$9 for cc17 charger is great
Is this charger better than the one that comes with the regular Eneloops? Got one many years ago in a Costco bundle (no model number on the front, just says Ni-MH, model number on the back is NC-MQN06U (https://smile.amazon.com/NC-MQN06...B002TZUB12). It seems fine but would be interested in an upgrade if the CC17 is better. Thank you!
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04-19-2021 at 02:19 PM.
04-19-2021 at 02:19 PM.
Weird that these rechargeables say they have no memory effect. And yet they still degrade and lose peak performance over time. Then what's the difference?

Like my iPhone is at 85% peak performance after a year.
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theacsupercats
04-19-2021 at 03:12 PM.
04-19-2021 at 03:12 PM.
Quote from bcm00re :
If you have in Ikea nearby, get their 2450mA AA Ladda cells for a lot less -- they are made at the same factory and these cells.
This may be a stupid question, but do the Ladda batteries work in the eneloop charging base?
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04-19-2021 at 03:17 PM.
04-19-2021 at 03:17 PM.
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This may be a stupid question, but do the Ladda batteries work in the eneloop charging base?

I would be shocked if the Ladda cells didn't charge in your Eneloop charger. I have a couple Energizer chargers that seem to charge any AA or AAA NiMH battery I put in them.
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04-19-2021 at 03:31 PM.
04-19-2021 at 03:31 PM.
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That's funny, I have a degree in Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences too! I also have friends that work in electronics!

Don't throw your weight around. You are not the only one with a "degree" or friends that work at places.

LOL, another EE hanging around on a deal site talking about batteries -- who'd have thunk it. Smilie Does Energizer make anything besides batteries (and things related to them like adapters and chargers)?

We can agree to disagree, but everything I see points to the Laddas and the Eneloop Pros likely being the same cell*. They both advertise being LSD, both claim 500 recharges, and their mA capacity difference is well within manufacturing tolerances. Either way, I suspect 95% or more of people who buy Eneloop Pros would only be able to tell the difference with Laddas by the wrapper (and not by their performance).

* This cell another one that is very likely the same too:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OOTXHFS
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04-23-2021 at 01:56 PM.
04-23-2021 at 01:56 PM.
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Is this charger better than the one that comes with the regular Eneloops? Got one many years ago in a Costco bundle (no model number on the front, just says Ni-MH, model number on the back is NC-MQN06U (https://smile.amazon.com/NC-MQN06...B002TZUB12 [amazon.com]). It seems fine but would be interested in an upgrade if the CC17 is better. Thank you!
The CC17 is pretty good and better than that one.
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04-23-2021 at 08:01 PM.
04-23-2021 at 08:01 PM.
Does this charger charge both AA and AAA batteries?
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Johnny-Bravo
04-26-2021 at 02:16 PM.
04-26-2021 at 02:16 PM.
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IKEA has discontinued the Ladda batteries, so maybe not. It shows "Last chance to buy" on their site.
According to https://www.ikea.com/us/en/this-i...ub6065b612, they are discontinuing all their non-rechargeable batteries to save the planet from certain and irreversible destruction. Apparently, they don't trust that the general public is smart enough to make good decisions regarding batteries, so they will decide for you.

However, it looks like their rechargeable LADDA batteries will stay in production, so I'm not sure why those also show "Last chance to buy".
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04-27-2021 at 07:46 PM.
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However, it looks like their rechargeable LADDA batteries will stay in production, so I'm not sure why those also show "Last chance to buy".
Word on the street is that Ikea is just changing suppliers for their rechargeable batteries. I suspect they are moving to a chinese manufacturer to offer something cheaper -- or maybe they switch to the new-ish 1.5V li-ion cells.
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04-30-2021 at 03:32 PM.
04-30-2021 at 03:32 PM.
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I don't have a link but I had read the latest Ladda were not the good ones anymore, so ymmv too for the quality.

Bought 12 AA from IKEA last year, used three times, junk. They don't hold charge at all, need to recharge them right before action all the time. Waste of money, but 15 years old eneloops are still running.
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