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I've used several ecobee in my office and multiple Nest-E at home. Ecobee is so much better, more user friendly, easier to adjust and set schedules, and get your historical data out of it. Nest looks cool but is terrible for function and user experience. The WORST part is they advertise the usefulness of historical data on the Nest and you can only see the last 10 days. How is 10 days of usage history useful? I am so sorry I have Nest at home.
Well, your suspicions are wrong. it's pretty screwed up for you to be spreading false information. Nest has been well known for providing only 10 days of data. I just checked and it only shows 10 days.
But, no need to take your or my word for it. Let's use data and references and critical thinking.
Google support page for the nest:
"Your thermostat's Energy History is a detailed summary that covers the last 10 days. You can view it on your thermostat or with the Nest app on a phone, tablet, or computer."
Anywho. Maybe you've got a magic nest, or can't count. But, PLEASE share proof rather than assertion as if you are correct I'd love to get that data out of it. I know there are 3rd party scripts to scrape the google API and get your data but they are a pain.
One of the greatest potential values of a smart thermostat is the data over long periods of time to establish seasonal energy consumption changes. Nest makes this impossible. However, ecobee makes it EASY!
Is there any real reason to get this one over the Costco one? What benefit does this really have over the Costco kit? I already have Alexa devices, so no need for that particular feature for me. Safe to assume if you didn't, that would be one reason? I also don't need to listen to music or talk to people via my thermostat.
Ecobee 3 Lite which is what is included in Costco deal is few generation older and doesn't support more complex hvac systems. Forgot if it was dehumidifier option or something else. The biggest issue is lack of presence sensor which is deal breaker for me. Regular Ecobee 3 had it. Presence sensor is useful for automations but also for actual smart features, like setpoint adjustments when nobody is home. Thats why they pair it with remote presence!/temp sensor so you still can do all that. Useful if thermostat is located in place where it doesn't give desired temperature read out (ie it is located in hallway but you want to use living room as reference)
Ecobee 3 Lite which is what is included in Costco deal is few generation older and doesn't support more complex hvac systems. Forgot if it was dehumidifier option or something else. The biggest issue is lack of presence sensor which is deal breaker for me. Regular Ecobee 3 had it. Presence sensor is useful for automations but also for actual smart features, like setpoint adjustments when nobody is home. Thats why they pair it with remote presence!/temp sensor so you still can do all that. Useful if thermostat is located in place where it doesn't give desired temperature read out (ie it is located in hallway but you want to use living room as reference)
Wrong. The ecobee 3 lite works with the individual room sensors that detect temp and occupancy. I bought my first one that came with 2 free ones. They are a bit of a pain because they use button batteries that last maybe 6-9 months. But they can be used.
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I've used several ecobee in my office and multiple Nest-E at home. Ecobee is so much better, more user friendly, easier to adjust and set schedules, and get your historical data out of it. Nest looks cool but is terrible for function and user experience. The WORST part is they advertise the usefulness of historical data on the Nest and you can only see the last 10 days. How is 10 days of usage history useful? I am so sorry I have Nest at home.
We got our nests for 66% off essentially via our energy provider. I HATED them. Not only did they need way more power and didn't come with a supplemental way of delivering it like the ecobee, but they were also a pain in the ass to use.
We bought the nest sensors hoping that would help with setting comfortable temps in the house but the stupid sensors only allow you to use them at specific schedules. You cannot set your schedule per day or per day of the week, so if I wanted my office during the day when I am working, from 7-4, forget it. I would have to use their preset blocks. People have been asking them to change this for three years and they refuse. It pretty much makes the sensors useless.
Then there is the big one that I finally had enough of, and that is how nest determines to kick on. Most classic thermostats wait for .5 degrees of variability before kicking on. This means if you set your AC to turn on at 72, it will kick on at 72.5. Nest's "cost savings feature" is its 2-degree variability, so it won't kick on until 74. Before google locked it down, you could change that to 1 degree and it kept your house more comfortable through IFTTT, but now, nope.
After the baby and dealing with having to manually set the sensor every day when she went to bed I just had enough. We switched to Ecobee and bought sensors for every main room.
I LOVE this thing. We have separate schedules for weekends and weekdays. Have a schedule with the nursery sensor to be warmer at bath time and 20 minutes after, then cool off before bedtime. Setting the motion for "WFH" keeps things balanced when my wife has her WFH days between our two offices.
Ecobee is arguably less "pretty" on the wall, but it is 1000% better in terms of features and functionality. Nest is probably great for people with apartments or small, sub-1000 Sq ft townhomes/lofts who only care about turning on eco mode and forgetting it. Here in Texas though, with 100+ degree summers (and I guess -5 winters now) leaving it to determine when's best to run and at what temp, especially with infants/toddlers, isn't an option.
Sorry for the rant, I just really appreciate my move to ecobee over the nest. FWIW we went with the latest generation "lite" model as we didn't need the voice on the thermostat. used the cost savings to get more sensors. I seriously could not be any happier with our Ecobee setup and wish I did this years ago instead of fighting with that PoS nest.
For the free Thermostat you are also giving APS the ability to remotely change the temp of the thermostat. They say by only a couple degrees so maybe you just set your house cooler to offset their increase in temperature during summer.
Wrong. The ecobee 3 lite works with the individual room sensors that detect temp and occupancy. I bought my first one that came with 2 free ones. They are a bit of a pain because they use button batteries that last maybe 6-9 months. But they can be used.
Correct, the Lite model doesn't have voice (alexa) and doesn't have support for (de)humidifiers or ventilators. If you have those then you need the non-lite model.
We don't (well our humidifier has it's own smart scheduling system) so we didn't need it and went with the lite. Each (upstairs and downstairs, 2 HVAC systems) has 5 sensors linked and works great.
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I've had my nest thermostat installed exactly 15 days, so I went to check your claim. I find it false. I was able to see historical data for the entire 15 days (and I suspect longer had it been installed) in monthly, weekly and the more-important daily (shows hourly usage) view.
Well, your suspicions are wrong. it's pretty screwed up for you to be spreading false information. Nest has been well known for providing only 10 days of data. I just checked and it only shows 10 days.
But, no need to take your or my word for it. Let's use data and references and critical thinking.
Google support page for the nest:
"Your thermostat's Energy History is a detailed summary that covers the last 10 days. You can view it on your thermostat or with the Nest app on a phone, tablet, or computer."
Anywho. Maybe you've got a magic nest, or can't count. But, PLEASE share proof rather than assertion as if you are correct I'd love to get that data out of it. I know there are 3rd party scripts to scrape the google API and get your data but they are a pain.
One of the greatest potential values of a smart thermostat is the data over long periods of time to establish seasonal energy consumption changes. Nest makes this impossible. However, ecobee makes it EASY!
Picked up the Costco deal a while back and it's been pretty solid. We don't use Alexa so the second version wasn't really a huge deal. We either control from the app or from the t-stat if we're close by. Also only use 1 of the Smart sensors as it's upstairs in the master bedroom
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To make use of a system like this or the Costco one, do I need a dual HVAC setup in my house? Have a baby on the way and keeping that room a specific temp would be nice. Thanks!
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But, no need to take your or my word for it. Let's use data and references and critical thinking.
Google support page for the nest:
"Your thermostat's Energy History is a detailed summary that covers the last 10 days. You can view it on your thermostat or with the Nest app on a phone, tablet, or computer."
https://support.google.
Anywho. Maybe you've got a magic nest, or can't count. But, PLEASE share proof rather than assertion as if you are correct I'd love to get that data out of it. I know there are 3rd party scripts to scrape the google API and get your data but they are a pain.
One of the greatest potential values of a smart thermostat is the data over long periods of time to establish seasonal energy consumption changes. Nest makes this impossible. However, ecobee makes it EASY!
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We bought the nest sensors hoping that would help with setting comfortable temps in the house but the stupid sensors only allow you to use them at specific schedules. You cannot set your schedule per day or per day of the week, so if I wanted my office during the day when I am working, from 7-4, forget it. I would have to use their preset blocks. People have been asking them to change this for three years and they refuse. It pretty much makes the sensors useless.
Then there is the big one that I finally had enough of, and that is how nest determines to kick on. Most classic thermostats wait for .5 degrees of variability before kicking on. This means if you set your AC to turn on at 72, it will kick on at 72.5. Nest's "cost savings feature" is its 2-degree variability, so it won't kick on until 74. Before google locked it down, you could change that to 1 degree and it kept your house more comfortable through IFTTT, but now, nope.
After the baby and dealing with having to manually set the sensor every day when she went to bed I just had enough. We switched to Ecobee and bought sensors for every main room.
I LOVE this thing. We have separate schedules for weekends and weekdays. Have a schedule with the nursery sensor to be warmer at bath time and 20 minutes after, then cool off before bedtime. Setting the motion for "WFH" keeps things balanced when my wife has her WFH days between our two offices.
Ecobee is arguably less "pretty" on the wall, but it is 1000% better in terms of features and functionality. Nest is probably great for people with apartments or small, sub-1000 Sq ft townhomes/lofts who only care about turning on eco mode and forgetting it. Here in Texas though, with 100+ degree summers (and I guess -5 winters now) leaving it to determine when's best to run and at what temp, especially with infants/toddlers, isn't an option.
Sorry for the rant, I just really appreciate my move to ecobee over the nest. FWIW we went with the latest generation "lite" model as we didn't need the voice on the thermostat. used the cost savings to get more sensors. I seriously could not be any happier with our Ecobee setup and wish I did this years ago instead of fighting with that PoS nest.
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We don't (well our humidifier has it's own smart scheduling system) so we didn't need it and went with the lite. Each (upstairs and downstairs, 2 HVAC systems) has 5 sensors linked and works great.
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But, no need to take your or my word for it. Let's use data and references and critical thinking.
Google support page for the nest:
"Your thermostat's Energy History is a detailed summary that covers the last 10 days. You can view it on your thermostat or with the Nest app on a phone, tablet, or computer."
https://support.google.
Anywho. Maybe you've got a magic nest, or can't count. But, PLEASE share proof rather than assertion as if you are correct I'd love to get that data out of it. I know there are 3rd party scripts to scrape the google API and get your data but they are a pain.
One of the greatest potential values of a smart thermostat is the data over long periods of time to establish seasonal energy consumption changes. Nest makes this impossible. However, ecobee makes it EASY!
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